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Can Nazis be Proud Americans?

Zyphlin said:
Well, I mean, ultimately being proud of something is entirely up to the individual experiencing the emotion. So...yes? Likely ignorantly so, but yes.
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Good point. Kind of a "pride is in the eye of the beholder" thing.
 
Harshaw said:
:roll:

It is. But you didn't mention him. Your confusion was your own. This conversation no longer interests me.
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I indirectly mentioned him. In fact, that was the main topic of the post I made, not Calamity.
 
Harshaw said:
:roll:

It is. But you didn't mention him. Your confusion was your own. This conversation no longer interests me.
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Maybe you should answer these questions before you go. So far all you did was deflect.

calamity said:
Do you support bigotry and hate? Are you supportive of people who promote ideas which glorify slavery and gassing Jewish people? If not, then you should have no trouble agreeing that to do so is unAmerican; that it is about as unAmerican as anything can be.
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calamity said:
Maybe you should answer these questions before you go. So far all you did was deflect.
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The motte-and-bailey tactic:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey

calamity said:
I guess, I just don't get it. How on earth can a Nazi be a proud American? In fact, let's expand this a bit. How can someone who cheers for the Confederacy also be a proud American? It certainly makes me wonder wtf?

Ok, correct me if I am wrong. But, since America--you know, the real American--fought two wars to defeat both Nazis and the Confederacy, a Confederate or a Nazi calling himself a proud Americans has to be an oxymoron. Amirite?
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calamity said:
We didn't fight a world war to defeat Marxists. In fact, our ally in the 2nd WW were Communists. So, I'm not sure we're talking apples to apples here. But, nice try.
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^^^^^^
This is your bailey.

calamity said:
Do you support bigotry and hate? Are you supportive of people who promote ideas which glorify slavery and gassing Jewish people? If not, then you should have no trouble agreeing that to do so is unAmerican; that it is about as unAmerican as anything can be.
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^^^^^^
This is your motte.
 
katzgar said:
There's a lot right-wingers don't understand that's why they voted for Trump
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Steve Bannon, Trump's right-hand man, is an admitted Leninist. Trump fans voted for a Leninist to be in the White House.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
WTF? I pointed out that Germany attack the US forces in WW2. That be definition is Nazi's attacking our Government. Then for unknown reason you said that it was chronologically incorrect. I assumed that you asserted that Germany didnt attack us first. If not I dont know wtf you were trying to say.

I didnt say anything about radical Islamic terrorists. I do not know what standard that you think that I should be holding Muslims on? Not all Muslims are radical Islamic terrorists, but all Nazi's are anti-American skum.

The reality is that White Nationalists should not be allowed to have rally's that were planed to be violent from the start. No one should be aloud to have violent rallies no matter who they are.
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What about the 1st Amendment?
 
Wisdom said:
Steve Bannon, Trump's right-hand man, is an admitted Leninist. Trump fans voted for a Leninist to be in the White House.
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He's a communist, now? :lamo
 
apdst said:
September 11, 2001. Maybe you heard about it?
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Uh, that was an Osama Bin Laden led group of disgruntled Saudi Arabians and one Egyptian. Try again.
 
apdst said:
What about the 1st Amendment?
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Where does it say you can plan a riot and the city or state must allow you to have one?
 
apdst said:
Are you seriously trying to put words into my mouth?

Islam attacked the United States government. Do you hold Muslims to the same standard?
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You ought to be glad that this isn't 1944, because you'd probably be in prison for being a Nazi sympathizer.
 
calamity said:
Uh, that was an Osama Bin Laden led group of disgruntled Saudi Arabians and one Egyptian. Try again.
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All Muslims. Was Oskar Schindler a bad nazi, or a good nazi?
 
calamity said:
Where does it say you can plan a riot and the city or state must allow you to have one?
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Where does the 1st Amendment say you deny someone the right to assemble based on a hunch that it might become violent?

Do you support the use of ex-post-facto law?

Should nazis be outlawed in The U.S.?
 
HenryChinaski said:
You ought to be glad that this isn't 1944, because you'd probably be in prison for being a Nazi sympathizer.
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I would be in prison for pointing out the idiotic double standard presented by the Liberals in this thread?

Should Muslim sympathizers be imprisoned?

What about communist sympathizers?
 
apdst said:
He's a communist, now? :lamo
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He's a self-admitted Leninist, and has been for years. You can look this up. This shouldn't surprise anyone, since Trump came out in his campaign against free-market capitalism. Trump is for government control over much of private-business decision making, in the name of promoting the "national interest" to favor the "working class." He also advocated for a huge amount of Keynesian spending on infra-structure, at a time when employment is high, and such spending would not even have been advocated by Keynes, as the end result will be inflation.

It's funny how Trump fans like to claim that they are against those evil "liberals," when Trump is promoting economic policies that are even left of Clinton. Hypocrisy does not even begin to cover it.
 
Wisdom said:
He's a self-admitted Leninist, and has been for years. You can look this up. This shouldn't surprise anyone, since Trump came out in his campaign against free-market capitalism. Trump is for government control over much of private-business decision making, in the name of promoting the "national interest" to favor the "working class." He also advocated for a huge amount of Keynesian spending on infra-structure, at a time when employment is high, and such spending would not even have been advocated by Keynes, as the end result will be inflation.

It's funny how Trump fans like to claim that they are against those evil "liberals," when Trump is promoting economic policies that are even left of Clinton. Hypocrisy does not even begin to cover it.
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Hell, all this time the anti-Trumpers have assured us he's a fascist. :lamo
 
If you want a war against Islam my guess is that you'll have to fight it by yourself because I doubt that the U.S.congress will declare war against Islam.
 
apdst said:
What about the 1st Amendment?
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Doesn't say you're entitled to hold a rally. That's why there's a permit process.
 
Sure, they can be proud Americans. They shouldn't, but they can.
 
apdst said:
Hell, all this time the anti-Trumpers have assured us he's a fascist. :lamo
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You think there is a lot of difference between a Leninist and a fascist? Is that why the Germans put Lenin into power in Russia, because they thought there was a huge difference between them?
 
Wisdom said:
You think there is a lot of difference between a Leninist and a fascist? Is that why the Germans put Lenin into power in Russia, because they thought there was a huge difference between them?
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Oh, no...there is no difference between nazis and communists. That, we can agree on.
 
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