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Trumps post Va. attack comment and lack thereof: The most disgusting to date.(

LOL!!

I haven't "defended" anyone. I've condemned them BOTH for their hatred, bigotry and violence. I'm not "claiming that the Antifa started all the violence". I'm stating the words of eyewitnesses. And now you want me to provide evidence for a hypothetical situation..."the far-right terrorist would have not attacked the peaceful protesters if it was not for the fighting". I haven't claimed ANYTHING is a "reason for committing a terrorist attack". You are correct...I blame Antifa for starting the violence and not only is there no reason they should violently attack anybody, those actions are against the law. They are criminals. Those Nazis violated NO laws...until they were attacked by Antifa. The Nazis were engaged in a legal rally. btw, this so-called Unite The Right had absolutely NOTHING to do with the murder of anybody during the Holocaust.

sigh...

I've stated my position clearly, calmly...with reason and facts. You now respond with lies about what I've said. I'm done with you.

You are dismissed.

You wrote this in the post I responded to.

That tells me that the recent event would NOT have become a danger to anybody...except that Antifa initiated the violence and created a tragic situation. I suspect, from the results of that report, the FBI and DHS didn't pay much attention to that upcoming rally. And rightfully so. It SHOULD have been handled by local law enforcement...but wasn't.

That I interpret as that you claim that the far right terrorist wouldn't have atacked the peaceful counterprotests if it wasn't for the Anifa violence. Something you don't have any proof for. Also if you use the same logic you can argue that it would have been no violence if the far right extremist hadn't flew the flag of a regime that killed millions of innocent people and started the second world war. Also the only evidence you have provided for that Anifa started the violence and thing would else have been peaceful is a report from an incident on saturday, there in your link the reporter said this "Nobody was intent on peace here from either side. People were intent on causing havoc and causing damage".

This is the link you provided: Reporter McKelway: Police Were Called Off When Violence Started - They Said, "We're Leaving. It's Too Dangerous" (VIDEO)

While you also had far right extremists that provoked, fought and was breaking the law the day before.

Waiting for the white nationalist protestors at the Jefferson Statue was a small contingent of counter-protesters, who circled and linked arms with their backs toward the statue. The “alt-right” marchers surrounded the counter-protesters and continued chanting until a fight broke out.

While waiting for rides at Nameless Field after the march, several of the "alt-right" protesters hurled anti-Semitic, homophobic and misogynistic slurs at several reporters and community members asking them questions. One man asking questions was thrown to the ground and surrounded by marchers after a brief physical altercation.

Torch-wielding white nationalists march at U.Va. | The Cavalier Daily

Two male protesters who said they were also maced, and did not wish to be named, described far-right protesters moving from verbal abuse, to pushing and shoving protesters, to the noxious spray.

“Someone from the alt right maced me right in the face – unprovoked,” said one. “After they maced people they started punching people and hitting them with torches.” Several protesters said a woman using a wheelchair was among those sprayed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-with-torches-encircles-counter-protest-group

So I don't can understand how you can claim that "You are correct...I blame Antifa for starting the violence and not only is there no reason they should violently attack anybody, those actions are against the law. They are criminals. Those Nazis violated NO laws...until they were attacked by Antifa."
 
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I did t watch the video but I read the transcript....maybe the video would come across differently but it seemed to me that he mentioned the "good" people on the one side more simply because they were the side he was being questioned about. Meaning, nobody was questioning or disputing whether or not there were good folks at the counter rally.


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You can question Trump's comment that “Many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee,”. Because it's seems counterproductive to protest with Nazis and racists that chants "Jews will not replace us". if your goals are only preserve a confederate statue. Also, one person was killed and 19 were injured in the car atack so the victims needed a lot more support and sympathy from the president.

Also it's interesting that Trump claimed that the reason that he waited with his condemnation of specific group was that "Before I make a statement, I like to know the facts." While he soon after the attack in Barcelona made a crazy and false statement.

Trump resurrects pig's blood myth after Barcelona attack | TheHill
 
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This is all part the three day leftist news propaganda cycle. Next week, nobody will remember this since new propaganda and new fake news will emerge. What ever become of the Russian connection that painted the picture of Trump about to be impeached? Even the gullible leftist finally woke up. Who still trusts the accuracy of the left leaning news for unbiased opinion? The leftist tactic is to lies up front, on page one, and then retract on page 45. The leftist propaganda wing knows that their moron base will not look past the headlines, to find the truth in the retraction.
 
This is all part the three day leftist news propaganda cycle. Next week, nobody will remember this since new propaganda and new fake news will emerge. What ever become of the Russian connection that painted the picture of Trump about to be impeached? Even the gullible leftist finally woke up. Who still trusts the accuracy of the left leaning news for unbiased opinion? The leftist tactic is to lies up front, on page one, and then retract on page 45. The leftist propaganda wing knows that their moron base will not look past the headlines, to find the truth in the retraction.

It seems like Donald Trump tried and sort of accomplish to turn it into a partisan issue about far right extremist violence vs left extremist wing violence. You can just look at all the threads and posts on this forum. While it instead should have been a nonpartisan issue about supporting the majority of good and brave counterprotesters that peacefully protested against the Nazis and racists.

Also condemning the terrorist attack and other violence from the Nazis and racists. While at the same time make it clear that you fight Nazis and racists with peaceful means. So, both condemning the counterprotesters that used violence as well as question the police lack of ability to prevent the violence.

Also, Trump should have made clear that you don’t march with Nazis and racists that wave the Nazi flag and carrying signs that says, "Jews are Satan's children". That if he believed in the preservation of confederate statues and that some of the protesters only wanted to protest against the removal of the statues, he could for example said this.

“Some of the protesters may have been there to protest against the removal of the confederate statue. Still I don’t support them because you should never march with Nazis and racists. That we who want to preserve the confederate statues should always stand up to Nazis and racists and never let them hijack our cause.”

Instead he made a lot of excuses for the people that decided to protest with Nazis and racists that shouted, "Jews will not replace us". You can also look at the video of how much he talks about Antifa violence and so little he talk about the brave and good people that peacefully protested against the Nazis and racists.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-press-conference-charlottesville.html
 
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You've lost track of the thread haven't you

I just like to have proper attribution and sourcing.

You know. Things that used to be valued in press reporting. Not so much anymore.

Now just posting or publishing or broadcasting any crap at all is perfectly acceptable.

"Never believe anything you read on the internet!" -Abraham Lincoln
 
Okay here's a fact for you Trump is a racist and part of his support is racist

No Link?

Has he excluded all minorities from his administration?

I'm sure that "part of his support" is also minority, pregnant women. Does that mean he's about to give birth?
 
I just like to have proper attribution and sourcing.

You know. Things that used to be valued in press reporting. Not so much anymore.

Now just posting or publishing or broadcasting any crap at all is perfectly acceptable.

"Never believe anything you read on the internet!" -Abraham Lincoln

You can just watch the video I posted from the entire press conference. So you can see how much time Trump spend defending the so call "good" people that decided to marsch with Nazis and racists and also talking about how violent the left was. While barely mention all those good people that peacfully protested against the Nazis and rascists. I may have missed it but I also believe that the only time he specificly talked about the terrorist atack was then he got a direct question about the atack.
 
No Link?

Has he excluded all minorities from his administration?

I'm sure that "part of his support" is also minority, pregnant women. Does that mean he's about to give birth?


your ignorance really isnt my issue.
 
He condemned the violence and hatred. That's what a President should do.

In reality, both sides at that protest were itching for a fight. They all got exactly what they wanted.

You will be shunned for this statement. Why? Because you are correct and the left wing partisan hacks don't want to acknowledge that they have their fair share of lunatics who shoot their neighbors over trump signs...or open fire on softball games...or assault people who are non violently using their right to peaceful protest.

I'm sure some jackass will come along and associate this comment with support for nazis or decide to say..."but neo Nazi kkk racist people did X..." as if I agree with that and supported them.




The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).
 
It's a dog whistle for his base. Everybody else with an IQ above a doorstop recognizes it for what it is: a deflection from responsibility for the fact that a sizable portion of his base is made up of White Supremacists. His decision to not call them out by name is a tacit statement of approval of White Supremacy or fear of alienating his base (I lean more toward the latter than the former, fwiw).

Oh, and I notice that you're still unable to acknowledge that those people were Nazis and White Supremacists.

One week on, more FACTS have come out. The original demonstration was attended by what seems to have been about 200 to 300 White Supremacist people. I have seen numerous interviews revealing the hate filled and logic free rhetoric they spewed.

Given the stated purpose of the demonstration, I'm sure there were probably at least some at the original gathering that were not White Supremacists. If they have normal sensibilities, they'd have looked around and left quick.

I've heard that the segment of the US population that are "White Supremacists" is far less than 1%. That segment percentage is only large enough to elect a Democrat in Chicago or Putin in Russia. Hardly enough to be referred to as a sizable portion of the 60+ million that voted for him.

Is there any news yet on where the police were or were not in all of this?
 
That you both in USA and Europe have attacks against peaceful protesters by far right extremists. That yes it was also violent left wing extremists in Virginia, but as I understand it has been no evidence that the people attacked belonged to those groups.

Also, the fact that you have left wing extremist willing to fight right wing extremist makes it more important with peaceful protests against far right extremism. Because if it’s only far right extremists against left wing extremists things get really ugly. That the leftwing extremists can get more support because they are seen as the only ones that is standing up against far right extremists. While far right extremists can gain more acceptance if only violent groups seem to oppose them.

You also have links between far right extremist in Europe and USA. For example spreading fake stories about Europe in USA have become so profitable that you even have poor Macedonians doing it to earn a lot of money.



http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/fr...-about-who-had-desecrated-a-church-in-sweden/

You have also Fox News that not only spread fake stories about Europe but also invite far right extremists to their shows.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/11/fox-news-steven-emerson-birmingham-muslims

Notorious Swedish right-wing extremist touted as expert by Fox Business

So there's a vast world wide, right wing conspiracy afoot?

In the US, exposing corrupted ideas to sunlight is a great way to expose the evil in the people who hold them. If FOX is allowing the White Supremacist types to spew their garbage, that should be a good thing.

When a person is forced to smell the rotting fish being served, he's unlikely to sit down at the table for lunch.

On all of our commercial media in the US, there is a "lean". That's the current and sterilized way to say they are lying. On some of the shows, it's extreme and others it's barely noticeable, but still there. It's almost comical to switch back and forth between FOX and CNN. They often cover different stories and, when the same stories are covered, they almost unrecognizable from one station to the next.

The easiest way to examine this phenomenon is to simply look at what is covered. A more complex and difficult to method is to check the how it's covered things. Not everyone has this interest. I do.

Over the course of this year, the American Media has, in turn been consumed by unrelenting, all consuming coverage of single issues: Trump's surprise win is at the root of all of this and links the various narratives that are broadcast in spite of the fact on the ground.

The news coverage has twisted in a directed way moving from the Electoral College, to the "Not My President", to his ongoing tweets, to his wrong speak, to the Russians, to his collusion with the Russians and now to White Supremacist thing.

Each story has in turn been exposed to be a "nothing burger" as Hillary described HER real world scandals. The lack of Real World facts to support the narratives does nothing to stop the "coverage".

American Media today has less in common with the rules governing journalism and more in common with the rules governing creative writing.

American Media is today very much several examples of propaganda organs peopled by mouthpieces for political ideologues rather than media outlets.

It's an embarrassment to anyone who recognizes and a blight on the ideal expressed as the "Fourth Estate".
 
You can just watch the video I posted from the entire press conference. So you can see how much time Trump spend defending the so call "good" people that decided to marsch with Nazis and racists and also talking about how violent the left was. While barely mention all those good people that peacfully protested against the Nazis and rascists. I may have missed it but I also believe that the only time he specificly talked about the terrorist atack was then he got a direct question about the atack.

My post was not in response to your post.
 
your ignorance really isnt my issue.

I suspect there are many issues that you dismiss.

Closing your mind seems to limit your confusion. If this gives your comfort, I suppose that's a good thing.

Everyone deserves comfort.
 
I suspect there are many issues that you dismiss.

Closing your mind seems to limit your confusion. If this gives your comfort, I suppose that's a good thing.

Everyone deserves comfort.


racism is bad
 
So there's a vast world wide, right wing conspiracy afoot?

In the US, exposing corrupted ideas to sunlight is a great way to expose the evil in the people who hold them. If FOX is allowing the White Supremacist types to spew their garbage, that should be a good thing.

When a person is forced to smell the rotting fish being served, he's unlikely to sit down at the table for lunch.

On all of our commercial media in the US, there is a "lean". That's the current and sterilized way to say they are lying. On some of the shows, it's extreme and others it's barely noticeable, but still there. It's almost comical to switch back and forth between FOX and CNN. They often cover different stories and, when the same stories are covered, they almost unrecognizable from one station to the next.

The easiest way to examine this phenomenon is to simply look at what is covered. A more complex and difficult to method is to check the how it's covered things. Not everyone has this interest. I do.

Over the course of this year, the American Media has, in turn been consumed by unrelenting, all consuming coverage of single issues: Trump's surprise win is at the root of all of this and links the various narratives that are broadcast in spite of the fact on the ground.

The news coverage has twisted in a directed way moving from the Electoral College, to the "Not My President", to his ongoing tweets, to his wrong speak, to the Russians, to his collusion with the Russians and now to White Supremacist thing.

Each story has in turn been exposed to be a "nothing burger" as Hillary described HER real world scandals. The lack of Real World facts to support the narratives does nothing to stop the "coverage".

American Media today has less in common with the rules governing journalism and more in common with the rules governing creative writing.

American Media is today very much several examples of propaganda organs peopled by mouthpieces for political ideologues rather than media outlets.

It's an embarrassment to anyone who recognizes and a blight on the ideal expressed as the "Fourth Estate".

It’s just that far rightist and far right extremist have taken advantage of globalization and the technology development.

Like for example that as a Swede you don’t need a visa to USA, so far right extremist from Sweden can easily go to USA to attend far right extremist rallies and meetings. That far right extremists from Sweden attended the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.

https://www.thelocal.se/20170815/swedes-attended-deadly-rally-in-charlottesville

Far right extremists can also get training in other countries. Like for example that two Swedish far right terrorists got their training in Russia.

https://www.thelocal.se/20170609/go...b-attack-received-military-training-in-russia

Also, it has become easy for far right groups to spread their propaganda between different countries thanks to the internet. For example, a made up story on a far right extremist site in Sweden can end up on far right extremist sites in many different countries. Not only that but in some cases also on Fox News and British tabloids.

There the reason why Fox News and British tabloids do it is probably because they have found a lucrative niche market by catering to far righist. Also, I believe it can be bad that channels like Fox News invites far right extremist and spread false far right propaganda. Especially since they don’t tell the viewers that the guest is a far right extremist or question the far right propaganda.

Fox News also care so little about fact checking their guests so they invited a “Swedish defense and national security advisor”. While the fact was that the guest had no connection to Swedish security, had been convicted of a violent crime and also hadn’t lived in Sweden for a long time.

Fake Sweden expert on Fox News ? has criminal convictions in US, no connection to Swedish security - DN.SE

That spreading far right propaganda can also empower and confirm the world view of far rightist and far right extremists. There some of them are willing to do violent acts and even terrorist attacks. Like for example the car attacker in Charlottesville and also Anders Breivik that killed 77 people most of them teenagers in Norway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

There Breivik got inspired by far rightist from all over the world, including the Hindu nationalistic movement in India.

Norway Massacre: The Bizarre Link Between European Fascists and Hindu Nationalists in India
 
You will be shunned for this statement. Why? Because you are correct and the left wing partisan hacks don't want to acknowledge that they have their fair share of lunatics who shoot their neighbors over trump signs...or open fire on softball games...or assault people who are non violently using their right to peaceful protest.

I'm sure some jackass will come along and associate this comment with support for nazis or decide to say..."but neo Nazi kkk racist people did X..." as if I agree with that and supported them.

I almost will accuse you of what if you by this “or assault people who are non violently using their right to peaceful protest.” If you by that refer to what happen in Charlottesville because it not the whole truth. That yes there can have been some peaceful Nazis, racists and other protesters that was attacked by counter protesters. While it also important to recognize that is was a lot of violent protesters that was there to fight and that they starting assaulting and provoked people the day before the main event. It can also be important to remember that they didn’t have a permit for the march on Friday.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-with-torches-encircles-counter-protest-group

Torch-wielding white nationalists march at U.Va. | The Cavalier Daily

So, it is totally wrong to claim that all the protesters were nonviolent and law abiding until they got attacked by Antifa, like some right wingers have claimed. While of course the violence from counter protesters should also be condemned. That you should always fight Nazis and racists with peaceful means like most of the counter protesters did. If it of course is not self defense against a direct threat, but I think in those cases it up to the courts to decide what is justifiable self defense.

While you are right that both the right wing and the left wing have both their own lunatics and it’s important to take a firm stand against them. Like Bernie Sanders strongly condemned the attack at the baseball game or how Black Lives Matter Leaders quickly condemned the police shootings In Dallas.
 
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It’s just that far rightist and far right extremist have taken advantage of globalization and the technology development.

Like for example that as a Swede you don’t need a visa to USA, so far right extremist from Sweden can easily go to USA to attend far right extremist rallies and meetings. That far right extremists from Sweden attended the white nationalist rally in Charlottesville.

https://www.thelocal.se/20170815/swedes-attended-deadly-rally-in-charlottesville

Far right extremists can also get training in other countries. Like for example that two Swedish far right terrorists got their training in Russia.

https://www.thelocal.se/20170609/go...b-attack-received-military-training-in-russia

Also, it has become easy for far right groups to spread their propaganda between different countries thanks to the internet. For example, a made up story on a far right extremist site in Sweden can end up on far right extremist sites in many different countries. Not only that but in some cases also on Fox News and British tabloids.

There the reason why Fox News and British tabloids do it is probably because they have found a lucrative niche market by catering to far righist. Also, I believe it can be bad that channels like Fox News invites far right extremist and spread false far right propaganda. Especially since they don’t tell the viewers that the guest is a far right extremist or question the far right propaganda.

Fox News also care so little about fact checking their guests so they invited a “Swedish defense and national security advisor”. While the fact was that the guest had no connection to Swedish security, had been convicted of a violent crime and also hadn’t lived in Sweden for a long time.

Fake Sweden expert on Fox News ? has criminal convictions in US, no connection to Swedish security - DN.SE

That spreading far right propaganda can also empower and confirm the world view of far rightist and far right extremists. There some of them are willing to do violent acts and even terrorist attacks. Like for example the car attacker in Charlottesville and also Anders Breivik that killed 77 people most of them teenagers in Norway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

There Breivik got inspired by far rightist from all over the world, including the Hindu nationalistic movement in India.

Norway Massacre: The Bizarre Link Between European Fascists and Hindu Nationalists in India

I'm not sure what the point of your post is.

Greater information is a good thing. Period. Hard stop.

Increased technology, as an example, is allowing me to talk to you. In the past, this would have been impossible for me to do.

I have posted many times on this board that every bit of news published or broadcast needs to be subjected to one pretty simple question:

"If this is true, what else must be true?"

So, CNN implies in its broadcasts that the 60 million or so voters that elected Trump are all White Supremacists and are angry white males.

Given that about half of the eligible US population votes, we can extrapolate from this that 120 million adult Americans are White Supremacists and are also angry White males based on what CNN implies.

IF 120 million Americans are White Supremacists, then there is not a majority voting population in the US to enact affirmative action, end institutionalized segregation and impose race based hate crime legislation and yet, all of those things have been implemented.

There are only 209 million Americans en toto that of voting age.

If this is true what else must be true? Asking that one question exposes a whole lot of bias.

https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf
 
I'm not sure what the point of your post is.

Greater information is a good thing. Period. Hard stop.

Increased technology, as an example, is allowing me to talk to you. In the past, this would have been impossible for me to do.

I have posted many times on this board that every bit of news published or broadcast needs to be subjected to one pretty simple question:

"If this is true, what else must be true?"

So, CNN implies in its broadcasts that the 60 million or so voters that elected Trump are all White Supremacists and are angry white males.

Given that about half of the eligible US population votes, we can extrapolate from this that 120 million adult Americans are White Supremacists and are also angry White males based on what CNN implies.

IF 120 million Americans are White Supremacists, then there is not a majority voting population in the US to enact affirmative action, end institutionalized segregation and impose race based hate crime legislation and yet, all of those things have been implemented.

There are only 209 million Americans en toto that of voting age.

If this is true what else must be true? Asking that one question exposes a whole lot of bias.

https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf

My point is that Nazis, racist and other far right extremist use technology and globalization to spread hateful propaganda and strengthen their movement. So that we who oppose them should also use the advantage of technology development and globalization in our peacefully struggle against them.

That it both about exposing their false solutions and propaganda as well as offering our own positive message and solutions that works for a better world, with a more equal and sustainable society with more opportunities and security for the people.

Also, Fox News should be able to have a right wing lean without inviting far right extremist to their show. Also, if information is so important as you said why did they only present Ingrid Carlqvist as a “Swedish columnist” instead of telling the viewers about her connection to and support of far right extremists?

Notorious Swedish right-wing extremist touted as expert by Fox Business

Also, then far right leader come to power they don’t agree with “Greater information is a good thing. Period. Hard stop”, as you wrote. For example, under the far right leader Orban, Hungary as fallen to a 71:th place on the World Freedom Index.

https://rsf.org/en/hungary

While in Poland are the far right government taking direct control over public media, according to foreign minister because the people need to be protected from those dangerous bicyclists and vegetarians.

https://www.economist.com/news/euro...adcaster-polandu2019s-new-government-dislikes

You also have Donald Trump that the call the media “enemy of the people”.

That as I said before Trump seem a lot more mellow in his condemnations of Nazis and racist than he does in his attacks against the media and other he believes have wronged him. For some absurd reason, he even wrote a lot of tweets about Kristen Stewart cheating on Robert Pattisson. That her cheating seemed to be a lot more upsetting then Nazis and racists marching on the streets with Nazi flags.

Donald Trump Kristen Stewart tweets: Read them here

Also, what proof do you have for this claim “So, CNN implies in its broadcasts that the 60 million or so voters that elected Trump are all White Supremacists and are angry white males.”?
 
My point is that Nazis, racist and other far right extremist use technology and globalization to spread hateful propaganda and strengthen their movement. So that we who oppose them should also use the advantage of technology development and globalization in our peacefully struggle against them.

That it both about exposing their false solutions and propaganda as well as offering our own positive message and solutions that works for a better world, with a more equal and sustainable society with more opportunities and security for the people.

Also, Fox News should be able to have a right wing lean without inviting far right extremist to their show. Also, if information is so important as you said why did they only present Ingrid Carlqvist as a “Swedish columnist” instead of telling the viewers about her connection to and support of far right extremists?

Notorious Swedish right-wing extremist touted as expert by Fox Business

Also, then far right leader come to power they don’t agree with “Greater information is a good thing. Period. Hard stop”, as you wrote. For example, under the far right leader Orban, Hungary as fallen to a 71:th place on the World Freedom Index.

https://rsf.org/en/hungary

While in Poland are the far right government taking direct control over public media, according to foreign minister because the people need to be protected from those dangerous bicyclists and vegetarians.

https://www.economist.com/news/euro...adcaster-polandu2019s-new-government-dislikes

You also have Donald Trump that the call the media “enemy of the people”.

That as I said before Trump seem a lot more mellow in his condemnations of Nazis and racist than he does in his attacks against the media and other he believes have wronged him. For some absurd reason, he even wrote a lot of tweets about Kristen Stewart cheating on Robert Pattisson. That her cheating seemed to be a lot more upsetting then Nazis and racists marching on the streets with Nazi flags.

Donald Trump Kristen Stewart tweets: Read them here

Also, what proof do you have for this claim “So, CNN implies in its broadcasts that the 60 million or so voters that elected Trump are all White Supremacists and are angry white males.”?

CNN has a decidedly left lean just as FOX has a decidedly right lean. This can hardly be disputed.

Trump has repeated many times that the journalists who report fake news are the enemy of the people. Journalist intentionally deceive when they "report" what you repeated above. Given Trump's often disjointed and meandering style of talking,he is easily quoted out of context. His meaning is not difficult at all to understand, though.

Bringing a full and complete set of ideas to the marketplace of ideas is never a bad thing. Presenting the slanted and biased, agenda driven narratives as is the wont of modern media is dangerous as it is deliberately misleading and usually inflammatory by design. This used to be known as "Yellow Journalism". Now it is just "Journalism". The state of modern journalism is a disgrace.

When I read or hear something that just doesn't make sense, I always seek confirmation from an opposing source AND a foreign source.

In my experience, all of the folks who are single issue extremists always come off bad when interviewed. Single issue folks rarely seem to have a balanced view of anything and it usually comes back to hate, recrimination and blame. Let them talk. Studying the Nazis is the best way to undermine their ideology.

Does it ever strike you as ironic that the people who most often decry the tactics of intimidation and censorship are supporters of very strong central control, Socialism and Communism?

However, very often, when very strong central control, socialism or communism are achieved, the tactics of intimidation and censorship are institutionalized.

Why do you suppose this is?
 
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