Berkeley Teacher Filmed Punching Neo-Nazi Arraigned In Sacramento

What if...? · Aug 12, 2017

cabse5 said:
Well, there's the first amendment, for starters.

First amendment only applies to state actors.

Regular criminal law would apply.

RetiredUSN · Aug 12, 2017

The lady is a loon.

What if...? · Aug 12, 2017

jamesrage said:
I doubt it.The Nazis had brown shirts to protect them.So I imagine that people got violent the first time Nazis opened their mouths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Their primary purposes were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing parties, fighting against the paramilitary units of the opposing parties, especially the Red Front Fighters League (Rotfrontkämpferbund) of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and intimidating Slavic and Romani citizens, unionists, and Jews – for instance, during the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses.

So a scoped rifle then.

I would generally prefer leaving them alive to suffer the shame/loss of status.

Bitch slap would be best of all, as it is dismissive rather than combative.

jamesrage · Aug 12, 2017

What if...? said:
So a scoped rifle then.

I would generally prefer leaving them alive to suffer the shame/loss of status.

Bitch slap would be best of all, as it is dismissive rather than combative.

So you are okay with murdering someone because of what they said?

What if...? · Aug 12, 2017

jamesrage said:
So you are okay with murdering someone because of what they said?

Depends on what they say.

If someone with influence instructs his minions to do violence, I would consider him a candidate.

Head of the serpent and all that.

Got to do it in a way that doesn't martyr him, though.

And again, still gotta deal with the relevant authorities. Might very well cost you your life.

But sometimes its worth it.

ThoughtEx. · Aug 12, 2017

jamesrage said:
I doubt it.The Nazis had brown shirts to protect them.So I imagine that people got violent the first time Nazis opened their mouths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Their primary purposes were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing parties, fighting against the paramilitary units of the opposing parties, especially the Red Front Fighters League (Rotfrontkämpferbund) of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and intimidating Slavic and Romani citizens, unionists, and Jews – for instance, during the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses.

So you're saying Nazi's have a long history of getting punched in the face, and it's not necessarily fascism when you do it to fascists? I can get behind that. I mean I grew up playing games where Nazi's are the bad guys. US millennials have been conditioned to hate the Nazi's by games like Call of Duty, Medal of Honour, and many more. Nazi's have been the outlet on which we release our violent urges for over two decades now. So it's hard to resist punching a Nazi when you find one in real life.

I mean it just sounds right, say it with me "Punching Nazi's". See what I mean, flows right off the tongue and brightens the spirit.

That being said I in no way endorse unprovoked violence, I just understand the temptation.

Geoist · Aug 12, 2017

nota bene said:
See just before 2:07. First, she elbows the guy, but then she punches

Still not seeing it and I went over it stopping every half second. Saw a few body blows and grabbing of the guy's backpack but that's all I saw from her. She's so tiny I doubt she could even reach his chin. :lol: Btw, this is not to excuse what she did, I think what I do see is despicable enough and I hope she pays the price. Fascinating how the guy had to ask the police for help who were literally 15 feet away and they only stepped in once he was on the ground and getting stomped on.

nota bene · Aug 12, 2017

Geoist said:
Still not seeing it and I went over it stopping every half second. Saw a few body blows and grabbing of the guy's backpack but that's all I saw from her. She's so tiny I doubt she could even reach his chin. :lol: Btw, this is not to excuse what she did, I think what I do see is despicable enough and I hope she pays the price. Fascinating how the guy had to ask the police for help who were literally 15 feet away and they only stepped in once he was on the ground and getting stomped on.

At the time I marked, she punches him in the stomach with her right fist.

Geoist · Aug 12, 2017

nota bene said:
At the time I marked, she punches him in the stomach with her right fist.

Yeah, I knew about that one. Someone in the thread referred to her punching the guy in the face and I was looking for that.

jamesrage · Aug 14, 2017

ThoughtEx. said:
So you're saying Nazi's have a long history of getting punched in the face, and it's not necessarily fascism when you do it to fascists? I can get behind that. I mean I grew up playing games where Nazi's are the bad guys. US millennials have been conditioned to hate the Nazi's by games like Call of Duty, Medal of Honour, and many more. Nazi's have been the outlet on which we release our violent urges for over two decades now. So it's hard to resist punching a Nazi when you find one in real life.

I mean it just sounds right, say it with me "Punching Nazi's". See what I mean, flows right off the tongue and brightens the spirit.

That being said I in no way endorse unprovoked violence, I just understand the temptation.

One of the functions of the brownshirts was to provide protection during rallies. So obviously a lot of people were not cool with what the Nazis had to say.