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The Republicans Have Become So Unpopular That...

Lyndon'sJohnson said:
It's more complicated than just Dems campaigning on promising "free ****", that's just a conservative talking point to get fiscal cons all riled up. I do agree however that an anti-Trump campaign is idiotic and that's exactly what Dems seem comfortable in pushing forward as a strategy in 2018 and 2020. Typically, being the antithesis of an unpopular, low-approval administration/party would be enough, but Dems need some real soul-searching in terms of policy issues because, quite frankly, they're as unpopular.
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Its not a conservative talking point. It has been cited numerous times BY DEMOCRATS as to why Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump. No message. No plans. And its no different now. NONE of the discourse involves policy...a better way forward. none of it.

The GOP SUCKS. They may indeed lose the house though the senate is pretty secure. But if the dems take over, what will they accomplish? Beyond a flawed healthcare program that they lied about to pass and did nothing to fix, what have they ever done? Congress has dismal approval ratings. Its because both sides are just that fricken bad.
 
Captain America said:
If the election were held today, and the DNC ran Keg-leg Clinton, they would deserve to lose.

It is not lost on me that the one possible candidate that could possibly measure up to the mentally defective clown we did elect, it would have been Hillary Clinton.

And to think, before the election, I had stored up a whole sack full of Clinton jokes and barbs to use thinking she would win. So, here I sit, with a truck load of Hillary insults and I can't even use them. I have to admit, that is somewhat disappointing. But to Trump's credit, he has given us plenty reason to gripe. So, I guess, all's well that end's well.
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Especially f all you are lookingfor is an opportunity to ridicule and criticize. No doubt...Trump will give them plenty of ammo.
 
VanceMack said:
Its not a conservative talking point. It has been cited numerous times BY DEMOCRATS as to why Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump. No message. No plans. And its no different now. NONE of the discourse involves policy...a better way forward. none of it.

The GOP SUCKS. They may indeed lose the house though the senate is pretty secure. But if the dems take over, what will they accomplish? Beyond a flawed healthcare program that they lied about to pass and did nothing to fix, what have they ever done? Congress has dismal approval ratings. Its because both sides are just that fricken bad.
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I meant that I disagree with the conservative talking point in which you stated that the Dem party only campaigns on giving free s***.

I agreed with your overall conclusion that the Dem party has no message or issues to run on other than being anti-Trump. That's been my gripe with the Dem party, which is why I choose to stay independent until they can show some competency in that regard.
 
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jimbo said:
Then there's also the fact that the GOP is apparently the only party that can successfully gerrymander. even in those democratic controlled states. And are able to get mostly left leaning judges to go along.

Then there's the fact that the Democrats seem unable to field a candidate able to beat the likes of Trump.
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The GOP had the same problem. Trump is not "one of them". The GOP wanted jeB or Rubio.

If there's a party of Political Opportunism, that's where Trump fits.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
The GOP had the same problem. Trump is not "one of them". The GOP wanted jeB or Rubio.

If there's a party of Political Opportunism, that's where Trump fits.
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True. Now President Trump won because he was not one of them. On either side.

I think Jeb was the Clinton of the Republicans. After the 18 on the debate stage finally stopped laughing at the comedian from NYC, they realized he was president. They are no more likely to forget than the Democrats.
 
Moderate Right said:
Polls have shown continuing distrust in the media for decades. Americans don't trust them to tell the truth. In other words, Americans think that it is indeed mostly fake news and these Americans propelled Trump to power.
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There is different in "fake news" and the media lying to you versus you not entirely trusting the media. I don't trust MSM either. I think they are tied in with the same donor class that have all the political influence. Our media doesn't talk about issues impacting regular people. Russia is entertaining, but in the next voting cycle, what we really want is a decent political candidate who is actually going to represent regular people with vastly different concerns than the Koch's or the left wing donors.
 
LowDown said:
...they control more politically now than they ever have in American history.

Republicans Are So Unpopular, They Control More Politically Than They Ever Have in American History

Huffington Post: Our model gives Hillary Clinton a 98.1% chance of winning. (November 2016).

Washington Post: Donald Trump's chances of winning are rapidly approaching zero. (October 2016).

Polls conducted by the mainstream media are worthless. You can't believe anything they say.

Oh, I suppose you'll believe them if they confirm your bias. But then you'd be an idiot.
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If conservatism is so popular, why don't you just repeal Obamacare and let the people enjoy the bounty of the free market? Give people their freedom to be denied insurance for pre-existing conditions. Give people back the freedom to go bankrupt when they're sick.
 
Moderate Right said:
Both sides are just ridiculous. The right thinks they will in power forever and the left thinks that a few years down the road Democrats will take over and never look back. The sun sets on ALL empires.
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The radicals on both sides think that way, most voters are more rational and hopefully will return to a more bi-partisan coalition like that of my youth. Problem is there are big blocks of voters who can shift positions if the promise of power is extended- from the mostly white social conservatives to the more mixed social services progressives. I do hope one day districts are more geometrically shaped and representatives have to address more than one side's highly partisan POV.

Even after Empire, a nation must have good governance- one might push forward the idea that is when good governance is most needed... :peace
 
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