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Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Shower

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In congressional testimony today William Browder, CEO of Hermitage Capital, was testifying about the “Foreign Agents Registration Act” (FARA).

During Mr. Browder’s testimony the origin of the Fusion GPS ‘Russian Dossier’ was discussed. Browder stated the Russian government actually paid Fusion GPS to create the Steele propaganda dossier on candidate Donald Trump. That same dossier was used by the FBI in June/July 2016 to generate the FISA surveillance warrants against the Trump campaign. watch

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-to-generate-the-golden-shower-trump-dossier/

Yes, that actually means FBI Director James Comey was using propaganda commissioned by Russia to attack Trump, as the framework to launch his FBI investigation into candidate Donald Trump and Russian collusion.

This led to McCain getting it to the FBI which initiated the whole sequence of events that has led to watching Mueller investigate the Trump Business Empire and threaten the Trump presidency.




Plus, the dossier was used by Comey to initiate FISA warrants and begin investigating Trump, then that was based on an entirely unsubstantiated and actually, ridiculous set of accusations BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

In congressional testimony today William Browder, CEO of Hermitage Capital, was testifying about the “Foreign Agents Registration Act” (FARA).

During Mr. Browder’s testimony the origin of the Fusion GPS ‘Russian Dossier’ was discussed. Browder stated the Russian government actually paid Fusion GPS to create the Steele propaganda dossier on candidate Donald Trump. That same dossier was used by the FBI in June/July 2016 to generate the FISA surveillance warrants against the Trump campaign. watch

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-to-generate-the-golden-shower-trump-dossier/

Yes, that actually means FBI Director James Comey was using propaganda commissioned by Russia to attack Trump, as the framework to launch his FBI investigation into candidate Donald Trump and Russian collusion.

This led to McCain getting it to the FBI which initiated the whole sequence of events that has led to watching Mueller investigate the Trump Business Empire and threaten the Trump presidency.




Plus, the dossier was used by Comey to initiate FISA warrants and begin investigating Trump, then that was based on an entirely unsubstantiated and actually, ridiculous set of accusations BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT


Like I said. If they won't investigate the Clinton cartel, Comey, and Lynch. There is no point in having a Justice deportment.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

Graham makes bigger statements than Browder. Notice how Browder doesn't answer his Trumped up leading questions but instead just says what he has to say. All Browder says is that he believes Fusion GPS was receiving money from a high ranking Russian. How you take that and go straight to "Browder testifies that Russia paid Fusion GPS to create the Steele dossier" is a mystery.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

In congressional testimony today William Browder, CEO of Hermitage Capital, was testifying about the “Foreign Agents Registration Act” (FARA).

During Mr. Browder’s testimony the origin of the Fusion GPS ‘Russian Dossier’ was discussed. Browder stated the Russian government actually paid Fusion GPS to create the Steele propaganda dossier on candidate Donald Trump. That same dossier was used by the FBI in June/July 2016 to generate the FISA surveillance warrants against the Trump campaign. watch

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-to-generate-the-golden-shower-trump-dossier/

Yes, that actually means FBI Director James Comey was using propaganda commissioned by Russia to attack Trump, as the framework to launch his FBI investigation into candidate Donald Trump and Russian collusion.

This led to McCain getting it to the FBI which initiated the whole sequence of events that has led to watching Mueller investigate the Trump Business Empire and threaten the Trump presidency.




Plus, the dossier was used by Comey to initiate FISA warrants and begin investigating Trump, then that was based on an entirely unsubstantiated and actually, ridiculous set of accusations BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT

I may have had a bit of a problem following what you posted.

For months, we have been subjected to a press corps that is publishing and broadcasting rumors, unsourced stories and unattributed slander attacking Trump.

Now you seem to be saying that the rumors, lies and unsourced attacks are all based on a fictitious and inappropriate fabrication paid for by the government that everyone in the media claims is married to the success of Trump.

This seems odd...

Why would the government that loves Trump have attacked Trump?

I'm sure that the noble and inquisitive members of the media will ask this question and never stop digging until they find the truth and present it in a well sourced and fully attributed expose.

In the meantime, I will be content to continue to read the stories they publish and broadcast about the love child of Big Foot and Tinkerbell.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

Graham makes bigger statements than Browder. Notice how Browder doesn't answer his Trumped up leading questions but instead just says what he has to say. All Browder says is that he believes Fusion GPS was receiving money from a high ranking Russian. How you take that and go straight to "Browder testifies that Russia paid Fusion GPS to create the Steele dossier" is a mystery.

Either way the Trump Russian collusion is turning into the democrat Russian collusion, now are you liberals going to show the same outrage that you gave President Trump or will it be nothing to see here move along democrats do no wrong.
Thoughts please.


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Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

In congressional testimony today William Browder, CEO of Hermitage Capital, was testifying about the “Foreign Agents Registration Act” (FARA).

During Mr. Browder’s testimony the origin of the Fusion GPS ‘Russian Dossier’ was discussed. Browder stated the Russian government actually paid Fusion GPS to create the Steele propaganda dossier on candidate Donald Trump. That same dossier was used by the FBI in June/July 2016 to generate the FISA surveillance warrants against the Trump campaign. watch

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-to-generate-the-golden-shower-trump-dossier/

Yes, that actually means FBI Director James Comey was using propaganda commissioned by Russia to attack Trump, as the framework to launch his FBI investigation into candidate Donald Trump and Russian collusion.

This led to McCain getting it to the FBI which initiated the whole sequence of events that has led to watching Mueller investigate the Trump Business Empire and threaten the Trump presidency.




Plus, the dossier was used by Comey to initiate FISA warrants and begin investigating Trump, then that was based on an entirely unsubstantiated and actually, ridiculous set of accusations BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT


Considering the thew source, lack of any substantiation, not one quote and the high school writing style, I'd say this is 'fake news"
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

I may have had a bit of a problem following what you posted.

For months, we have been subjected to a press corps that is publishing and broadcasting rumors, unsourced stories and unattributed slander attacking Trump.

Now you seem to be saying that the rumors, lies and unsourced attacks are all based on a fictitious and inappropriate fabrication paid for by the government that everyone in the media claims is married to the success of Trump.

This seems odd...

Why would the government that loves Trump have attacked Trump?

I'm sure that the noble and inquisitive members of the media will ask this question and never stop digging until they find the truth and present it in a well sourced and fully attributed expose.

In the meantime, I will be content to continue to read the stories they publish and broadcast about the love child of Big Foot and Tinkerbell.

You made an excellent point up until the part I bolded, where you show yourself to be a partisan hack, totally uninterested in the truth that doesn't work against Trump. So as far as any partisan with your fellow travelers, everything that exonerates a republican is "fake news".
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

Either way the Trump Russian collusion is turning into the democrat Russian collusion, now are you liberals going to show the same outrage that you gave President Trump or will it be nothing to see here move along democrats do no wrong.
Thoughts please.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Huh? From the OP where did you get that the Democrats colluded with Russia?
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

You made an excellent point up until the part I bolded, where you show yourself to be a partisan hack, totally uninterested in the truth that doesn't work against Trump. So as far as any partisan with your fellow travelers, everything that exonerates a republican is "fake news".

The sad thing is the testimony was actually somewhat significant and interesting but the article took it and ran with it way too far and ruined it. I would not be surprised to find others than the Trump administration and Russia have their hands dirty and if so it needs to see the light of day. But every time the right overplays its hand it just delegitimizes it and walks away with nothing. One of my biggest problems with the right is the exaggeration and Evel Knievel leaps in logic.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

This led to McCain getting it to the FBI which initiated the whole sequence of events that has led to watching Mueller investigate the Trump Business Empire and threaten the Trump presidency.

1. Don' you think it's the job of American intelligence agencies to investigate such claims? Should they just sit around and dismiss stuff without making any effort to verify?
2. Mueller only comes into the picture because Trump fired Comey for not ending the investigation. This made Trump even more suspicious. Rosenstein was then forced to appoint an independent investigator so the investigation would appear independent.

The more Trump complains about and tries to derail the investigation, the more suspicious he appears. Only Trump supporters blindly dismiss the claims. Is Trump so honorable that it's impossible for him to be compromised by the Russians? It's not even worth investigating? That sounds rather irrational and dangerous.

3. Putin hates Hillary. The Russians clearly did what they could to help Trump and other right-wing parties in Europe. The claim that they wanted to work with Democrats is rather ridiculous considering how much Putin hates Hillary Clinton.

In December 2011, Vladimir Putin came closer than he's ever been to losing his hold on power. His decision that year to run for a third term as Russia’s President had inspired a massive protest movement against him. Demonstrations calling for him to resign were attracting hundreds of thousands of people across the country. Some of his closest allies had defected to the opposition, causing a split in the Kremlin elites, and Russian state media had begun to warn of a revolution in the making.

At a crisis meeting with his advisers on Dec. 8 of that year, the Russian leader chose to lay the blame on one meddling foreign diplomat: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

"She set the tone for certain actors inside the country; she gave the signal," Putin said of Clinton at the time, accusing her of ordering the opposition movement into action like some kind of revolutionary sleeper cell. "They heard this signal and, with the support of the U.S. State Department, started actively doing their work."

Hillary Clinton: Why Vladimir Putin Has a Grudge Against Her | Time.com
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

You made an excellent point up until the part I bolded, where you show yourself to be a partisan hack, totally uninterested in the truth that doesn't work against Trump. So as far as any partisan with your fellow travelers, everything that exonerates a republican is "fake news".

My response to your post was sarcasm...

Was your's also sarcasm?

If not, then the only part of my post to you that needs a response is the part that you bolded.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

Graham makes bigger statements than Browder. Notice how Browder doesn't answer his Trumped up leading questions but instead just says what he has to say. All Browder says is that he believes Fusion GPS was receiving money from a high ranking Russian. How you take that and go straight to "Browder testifies that Russia paid Fusion GPS to create the Steele dossier" is a mystery.

:confused:

Graham Question:

"You believe Fusion GPS should have registered under Foreign FARA, because they were acting on behalf of the Russians?"

Answer:

"That is correct"

Graham:

"The group that did the dossier on President Trump hired this British Spy, who wound up getting it to the FBI. You believe they were working for the Russians?

Answer:

"in the Spring and Summer of 2016, um, they were receiving money indirectly from a Senior Russian Government Official"

Graham Question:

"Is it common for Russia to play both sides against the middle?"

Answer:

"Uh yes. What you need to understand about the Russians is that there is no ideology at all. They are just in the business, Vladimir Putin, is in the business of trying to create chaos everywhere."​

Fusion GPS is most certainly a Democrat operation. It was testified to that Fusion GPS was working for the Russians. Fusion coordinated the creation of the dossier.

I don't know how anything can be a mystery to you, given the testimony.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

My response to your post was sarcasm...

Was your's also sarcasm?

If not, then the only part of my post to you that needs a response is the part that you bolded.

What you seem to be saying is "why would the Russian attack the guy they love - Trump". That comment for me and anyone else with half a brain, means your post is just a "drive by". :shoot:
 
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Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

What you seem to be saying is "why would the Russian attack the guy they love - Trump". That comment for me and anyone else with half a brain, means your post is just a "drive by". :shoot:

That may be how you interpret it.

The actual intent is to pose this question: "If this is true, what else must be true?"

If you are not asking that question every time you encounter ANY idea put forth by our news media, you are wearing blinders.

So, in this particular case, the question you pose is stated quite well. If that is true, what else must be true?
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

Thinking you are going to make a mass conversion among your opponents, Volsrock?

As in the ancient technique of create a common enemy to unite people around?

And you think that you are going to save Trump by reasoning with Democrats and liberals and making a mass conversion among them, kind of like a mass religious conversion that has at times throughout history occurred to a nation?

Let me know by the end of the year how that works out for ya.




You ever heard of wrath?

Well... that is what Democrats and liberals and many Republicans (like McCain) have for both Trump and Putin. The same wrath that had white Americans going out and lynching some black guy they never knew, like Emit Till, one out of many examples based on repeated gossip and crusade to save the nation. There is no reasoning or talking that will convert Democrats and liberals. Not in mass numbers. I'll grant you 1 or 2 here and there might change by your method of combining "manufacture a common enemy (Russia) and use discourse (appeals to reasoning) to cause conversions." So, 1% or less than 1% of them. But overall, no.

The Democrats and liberals have repeatedly told you all where their wrath originates from. I've read them frequently state their wrath originates from the wrath you guys had for Obama. And you Republicans and conservatives did have wrath against Obama. How did that work out for ya? All these years later it united the country more, right? Kind of like over 100 years of wrath put in the form of Jim Crow segregation merely resulted in blacks and whites in the USA being all hugs and kisses united in the USA today (what then is Black Lives Matter complaining about? :thinking).

Russia was not the best pick to create a boogyman out of. The US in its machinations would have been better off picking a non-nuclear power less capable of defending itself and one more easily internally divided. A poor country like Guatemala. Perhaps it was Divine Providence that has led Americans to pick Russia--a country with enough nukes to wipe the US off the map--through their blind wrath. For the Russians will not break and more sanctions will only unite them more. They are already extremely united (unlike Americans which are extremely divided) and sanctions have made even some of Putin's critics in Russia unite behind him. Plus, imagine Cuba and North Korea, they did not break after decades of sanctions. Russia is far better off economically and in fact will do quite fine with any American sanctions imposed on it.

The Democrats are not going to stop in their blind wrath jihad against Trump. Nor are they willing to stop changing America towards their vision. And they will continue to create new internal revolutions inside the USA attacking American "values." There can never be a united America. Because that would require a nationality. A nation (not state). A nation has values, traditions, passed from one generation to the next that unites all the people. The strategy of globalist who also use liberals is "divide and conquer" and therefore Democrats must always be used to divide the country again once and agreement on American "values" are set. Perpetual division. Perpetual wrath. And these generations of Americans will go down in US history as the worst generations in the history of the country because they will collapse the country from within. Both Republicans and Democrats. If you all--which you likely will--bring utter ruin to the future adult lives of those Americans that are newborns now. They will hate you all. More wrath.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

According to the standard list, they are pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth,[2] which are also contrary to the seven virtues.

Wrath (Latin, ira) can be defined as uncontrolled feelings of anger, rage, and even hatred. Wrath often reveals itself in the wish to seek vengeance.[39] In its purest form, wrath presents with injury, violence, and hate that may provoke feuds that can go on for centuries. Wrath may persist long after the person who did another a grievous wrong is dead. Feelings of wrath can manifest in different ways, including impatience, hateful misanthropy, revenge, and self-destructive behavior, such as drug abuse or suicide



The more Trump complains about and tries to derail the investigation, the more suspicious he appears. Only Trump supporters blindly dismiss the claims.

3. Putin hates Hillary. The Russians clearly did...


Hillary Clinton: Why Vladimir Putin Has a Grudge Against Her | Time.com
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

:confused:

Graham Question:

"You believe Fusion GPS should have registered under Foreign FARA, because they were acting on behalf of the Russians?"

Answer:

"That is correct"

Graham:

"The group that did the dossier on President Trump hired this British Spy, who wound up getting it to the FBI. You believe they were working for the Russians?

Answer:

"in the Spring and Summer of 2016, um, they were receiving money indirectly from a Senior Russian Government Official"

Graham Question:

"Is it common for Russia to play both sides against the middle?"

Answer:

"Uh yes. What you need to understand about the Russians is that there is no ideology at all. They are just in the business, Vladimir Putin, is in the business of trying to create chaos everywhere."​

Fusion GPS is most certainly a Democrat operation. It was testified to that Fusion GPS was working for the Russians. Fusion coordinated the creation of the dossier.

I don't know how anything can be a mystery to you, given the testimony.

All he says is that he believes Fusion GPS received money from the Russians. Nowhere does he say that Fusion GPS created the Steel Dossier at the direction of the Russians, or that the money given to them was for the creation of the Steel Dossier. Your imagination is filling that part in.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

:confused:

Graham Question:

"You believe Fusion GPS should have registered under Foreign FARA, because they were acting on behalf of the Russians?"

Answer:

"That is correct"

Graham:

"The group that did the dossier on President Trump hired this British Spy, who wound up getting it to the FBI. You believe they were working for the Russians?

Answer:

"in the Spring and Summer of 2016, um, they were receiving money indirectly from a Senior Russian Government Official"

Graham Question:

"Is it common for Russia to play both sides against the middle?"

Answer:

"Uh yes. What you need to understand about the Russians is that there is no ideology at all. They are just in the business, Vladimir Putin, is in the business of trying to create chaos everywhere."​

Fusion GPS is most certainly a Democrat operation. It was testified to that Fusion GPS was working for the Russians. Fusion coordinated the creation of the dossier.

I don't know how anything can be a mystery to you, given the testimony.


In September 2015, Fusion GPS was hired to do opposition research for Republicans who opposed Donald Trump's bid during the Republican primary campaign for the 2016 presidential election. When Trump had emerged as the probable Republican candidate by the spring of 2016, Republican donors stopped funding the investigation, and Democratic supporters of Hillary Clinton became Fusion GPS's new clients.[18] In June 2016, after the Democratic National Committee had been hacked and its emails began to be published online by Wikileaks, Fusion GPS retained Christopher Steele, a private British corporate intelligence investigator and former MI-6 agent, to research any Russian connections to Trump. Steele produced a 35-page series of memos from June to December 2016, which became the document known as the Donald Trump–Russia dossier.[18][19]

I would say not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_GPS


I would not be surprised if Cruz had Fusion put the part of the small penis in the document as revenge for what Trump said about his family
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

All he says is that he believes Fusion GPS received money from the Russians. Nowhere does he say that Fusion GPS created the Steel Dossier at the direction of the Russians, or that the money given to them was for the creation of the Steel Dossier. Your imagination is filling that part in.

No, it would appear your imagination is removing who is responsible for creating it.
 
Re: Congressional Testimony: The Russians Paid Fusion GPS to Generate the Golden Show

I would say not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_GPS


I would not be surprised if Cruz had Fusion put the part of the small penis in the document as revenge for what Trump said about his family

The evidence does not support your conclusion.

The Sordid History of the Firm Behind the Trump-Russia Dossier | The Weekly Standard

What's interesting about this revelation is that Fusion GPS has an institutional reputation for doing shoddy and underhanded political work, and nearly all of it has been at the behest of Democrats looking to attack Republicans. In 2012, Wall Street Journal columnist Kimberly Strassel did some blockbuster reporting on Fusion GPS's alarming efforts to dig up dirt on donors to Mitt Romney and socially conservative causes:​
 
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