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U.S. military spends 10 times more on erectile dysfunction than transgender care

RetiredUSN said:
OK... let's not stop there.

Why don't we go ahead and ban supplying contraceptives for active duty military females. They are not a requirement either.....right?

Let's ban ships from placing condoms on the quarterdeck or in the galley when the ship hits port.
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We need more enlistees. Good idea.

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DA60 said:
A) that is a whole different ballgame.

B) Besides, I have no idea how Obamacare mandates birth control...not a clue. Maybe I should - but I don't. I have a health plan that covers all my needs. And if I ever get something REALLY serious - if I can - I will just zip on up to Canada and let them fix it for free (I am half-Canadian and still can use their healthcare when I wish).


My point is - regardless of other instances/drugs...I do not think the U.S. taxpayers should be paying out their hard-earned money so that veterans can get free Viagra.
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You should probably advocate they stop serving beef because chicken is just as good and costs less. Think of the savings to the tax payer!

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DA60 said:
I don't care who is getting it.

Can't get it up? Go and buy the damn Viagra pills yourself. The U.S. taxpayers should not be paying out their hard earned dollars so senior U.S. veterans can have free Viagra.
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Dont want a kid? pay for the damn abortion yourself
 
ttwtt78640 said:
A) Because we spend too much on X nobody should stop spending too much on Y - right?

B) Your supplied link stated that only 10% of that ED spending was for active duty personnel and folks tend to freak out over any spending cuts for veterans.

There are many medical and psychiatric conditions that make folks ineligible for military service but those conditions do not affect their veteran's benefits when they occur later in life. Should we strive to spend whatever is necessary to allow those with currently prohibited medical and psychiatric conditions to serve in the military or continue to add more such restrictions if deemed worthy?
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Sorry. Viagra costs 40 cents a pill. If vets are having ED, they can buy the pills themselves.

Are you saying they cannot afford it?

And what about police, firefighters and all the other tens of millions of public servants who have hazardous/emotionally traumatic jobs who could suffer from PTSD? Should they all get free Viagra as well? I assume you are for free Viagra for them also?

Sorry...I am for top quality health care for veterans. That does NOT include free Viagra - no matter how they got ED (which, btw, is IMPOSSIBLE to determine exactly why they have ED. It might be due to PTSD. Or it might be that they were destined to get it no matter what).
Now, if the ED is proven to be directly due to an injury incurred during their time in the servie - then that is different. But 'simple' ED - that effects tens of millions of 'normal' men? Nope.

Once again, I was in the military and am saying this.
 
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DA60 said:
Sorry. Viagra costs 40 cents a pill. If vets are having ED, they can buy the pills themselves.

Are you saying they cannot afford it?

And what about police, firefighters and all the other tens of millions of public servants who have hazardous/emotionally traumatic jobs who could suffer from PTSD? Should they all get free Viagra as well? I assume you are for free Viagra for them also?

Sorry...I am for top quality health care for veterans. That does NOT include free Viagra - no matter how they got ED (which, btw, is IMPOSSIBLE to determine exactly why they have ED. It might be due to PTSD. Or it might be that they were destined to get it no matter what).
Now, if the ED is proven to be directly due to an injury incurred during their time in the servie - then that is different. But 'simple' ED - that effects tens of millions of 'normal' men? Nope.

Once again, I was in the military and am saying this.
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What does "free" Viagra have to do with the transgender issue?
 
DA60 said:
Because you mentioned the link and the link was to do with ED drugs like Viagra.
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The link also mentioned military transgender related medical care costs. Your argument seems to be to go after whatever costs more and to ignore all else. If the military stopped supplying "free" Viagra would your stance on transgender treatment costs then change or would you find something else that costs more to justify continued military medical spending to support keeping transgender personnel?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The link also mentioned military transgender related medical care costs. Your argument seems to be to go after whatever costs more and to ignore all else. If the military stopped supplying "free" Viagra would your stance on transgender treatment costs then change or would you find something else that costs more to justify continued military medical spending to support keeping transgender personnel?
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I sincerely do not understand what your point is.


I am strongly for transgenders in the military.

I am against the military paying for sex reassignment surgeries.

I am against the Military paying for Viagra UNLESS the reason can be proven to be physical in nature (i.e. a soldier's nether regions became physically damaged during combat) and he requires a drug like Viagra to 'get it up'.
 
DA60 said:
Sorry. Viagra costs 40 cents a pill. If vets are having ED, they can buy the pills themselves.
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Where I'm at its $40 a pill. Its gotten so bad I have to use the Chinese version! :(
 
Before I call it a day, I'm gonna throw this out there once more:

1. One does not want the military (government) to pay for the surgery.
2. One must then allow the person to get their own insurance to do so.
3. The person gets Obamacare.
4. The government pays for the surgery.

What's the point?

The government pays for the surgery when someone is not in the military (Obamacare). Why does one not want the government to pay just because someone is in the military? How does that make sense?

No matter how we cut it, the government pays for it. Removing that for joining the military is just penalizing someone for joining the military.
 
erectile dysfunction is a medical condition

transponder IS NOT
 
DA60 said:
I sincerely do not understand what your point is.


I am strongly for transgenders in the military.

I am against the military paying for sex reassignment surgeries.

I am against the Military paying for Viagra UNLESS the reason can be proven to be physical in nature (i.e. a soldier's nether regions became physically damaged during combat) and he requires a drug like Viagra to 'get it up'.
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Why would you complain about Viagra yet support hormone replacement therapy for transgenders at an annual cost of about $1,500 per "patient"?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Why would you complain about Viagra yet support hormone replacement therapy for transgenders at an annual cost of about $1,500 per "patient"?
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If you are referring to Obamacare (as I can think of nothing else you are referring to)...I do not support ANY government health care program paying for transgender reassignment therapy or treatments or any kind (unless the treatments help with a physical problem).

If someone wants to be a different sex. They either have the cash or find an insurance company that will support it and get their policy.

Otherwise, they are out of luck...maybe they could marry a Canadian. I think they pay for it up there.
 
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