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Some reasons why Gays Trans should be banned

FDA regulations bans men who have had sex with another man from giving blood. In combat, any one of your buddies might be called to donate blood to keep you alive if you get wounded. Gays/Trans should never donate blood. End of story.

https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/BloodBloodProducts/QuestionsaboutBlood/default.htm

Gays commit suicide, attempt it, 6x more often than heteros. Is this the type person u entrust with a weapon?

Same-Sex Sexual Behavior and Psychiatric Disorders | Psychiatry | JAMA Psychiatry | The JAMA Network


The Army etc... members are encouraged to be strong and healthy....The Gay lifestyle has been proven to lower a man's life expectancy by as much as 20 years

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9222793?dopt=Abstract


The Gay lifestyle is one of the most violent . .. studies show gays are 20x more likely to be abusive in their relationships. This is emotional instability that is not good discipline that is needed on the battle field.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ipva99.pdf

I knew straight sailors who would **** anything they didn't have to paint, and came down with the clap a half dozen times, and every other imaginable VD.

I knew straight sailors who beat the crap out of their wives and kids, or went on the town just to drink & fight.

I knew a straight sailor on the USS Fulton in New London who raped & killed killed a little girl over on Norwich back in 1979 - 1980.

Straight sailors hung themselves quite often in the Navy, or committed suicide by other means.

I knew dozens of straight sailors who were mental cases.

But, I guess they were fine because they played with girls?
 
Some reasons why Gays Trans should be banned

It's just one more idiotic Trump thing intended to stir people up and to play to a portion of his base. Like the others, it will be reversed when he's out of office. It's too bad that good people who are much more brave than Trump have to suffer in the meantime, though.
 
It's just one more idiotic Trump thing intended to stir people up and to play to a portion of his base. Like the others, it will be reversed when he's out of office. It's too bad that good people who are much more brave than Trump have to suffer in the meantime, though.

Trump's base had nothing to do with it.

E-1 through 0-9's had a lot to do with it.

Take it up with them.
 
Get the feeling how? I don't see it that way at all. The military doesn't take any applicant that has a disease or a health issue that requires special treatment. Are you not aware a transgender requires monthly hormone treatments including blood tests and other medical issues? How the Hell is the military to accommodate all their needs if they are stationed in a jungle, desert or third world position? They can not insure anyone with special needs the healthcare that they need.
I haven't read all the posts but I know what I have posted and trans folks do not meet the requirements considered fit for military duty as stands today. Period. They as trans signing up for the military would not meet basic standards. I posted the gender standards somewhere. Now if they are in the military as their born gender and decide to change that gender then the waters get murky.

Yes, I agree some of those looking for all out service bans could want this, but not those opposing the reassignment surgery.
Just wondering of you see a difference in banning trans serving and denying reassignment surgery?
 
Trump's base had nothing to do with it.

E-1 through 0-9's had a lot to do with it.

Take it up with them.

I'll wait it out. The policy is as good as reversed one or two administrations down the road.
 
Everything that Trump does is based upon what's best for him.

That includes his actions as president of the USA.

Trump may not be the worst president but he's a long ways from being the best.



The more I watch Trump...the more I think that he is truly illiterate. I don't think we've ever had a president that couldn't read...but it sure does explain a lot of his behavior.
 
With over 15,000 transgenders currently serving in the military...it looks like the military is adapting pretty well.

Those were the older numbers, the 2016 estimate is far less, and the actual numbers are completely unknown since most branches refuse to release the numbers, so in reality 15000 was a guess, just the same as the much smaller 2016 numbers were just a guess, made off of what little numbers were released.
 
YOu bring up a very good point about refrigeration of hormone therapy. But not only hormone therapy but many medications need refrigerated.

The military must have basic standards in who is fit to serve wherever they are called. If military is sent to a desert or a jungle or on a submarine or aircraft carrier to boots on the ground fighting a real conflict, who the heck is going to be able to guarantee any medication?

THEY CAN NOT do such a thing. If someone with any medical needs no matter race or sexual orientation etc. does not meet basic standards then they are out. Period.

If someone with flat feet, asthma, poor vision, heart murmurs etc can keep someone from enlisting into the military, why is it so hard for others to understand that anyone with a need for special healthcare needs doesn't pass the grade either.

The military will guarantee only the most basic medication, usually nsaids epipens morphine etc, as transporting the medication becomes a major issue to hostile environments, as does having doctors trained in those environments. More often than not outside a major camp in a combat zone they will mostly have just field medics, who are medics and not doctors, their job is to keep you alive until a medevac or fla can transport you to a doctor, and in even many parts of afghanistan after nearly 16 years they still need helicopters to medevac people for anything greater than what a field medic can handle.
 
FDA regulations bans men who have had sex with another man from giving blood. In combat, any one of your buddies might be called to donate blood to keep you alive if you get wounded. Gays/Trans should never donate blood. End of story.

https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/BloodBloodProducts/QuestionsaboutBlood/default.htm

Gays commit suicide, attempt it, 6x more often than heteros. Is this the type person u entrust with a weapon?

Same-Sex Sexual Behavior and Psychiatric Disorders | Psychiatry | JAMA Psychiatry | The JAMA Network


The Army etc... members are encouraged to be strong and healthy....The Gay lifestyle has been proven to lower a man's life expectancy by as much as 20 years

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9222793?dopt=Abstract


The Gay lifestyle is one of the most violent . .. studies show gays are 20x more likely to be abusive in their relationships. This is emotional instability that is not good discipline that is needed on the battle field.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ipva99.pdf

Are we talking about gay people or black people here? Seems Donald has more people to ban based on some similar stats... and don't get me started on Mexican rapists...

Other than that, a very enlightened post.
 
I don't know why the fake news media keeps suggesting that conservatives are bigots.
 
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Male brains and female brains develop differently based on conditions outside of the person developing.
There're some folks whose brain developed as someone of the opposite sex.
These folks may have some legitimate issues which can be helped by way of gender reassignment surgery.

I remember when every "right thinking" person in the USA was certain that homosexuality was genetically determined, genetically heritable and people got extremely angry at me when I pointed out there is no reason to believe this given the complexity to human sexuality. There were other things like one identical twin being homosexual and the other being heterosexual. But that did not matter because people only saw evidence where it confirmed their preexisting dogmatic beliefs.

Then circa year 2010 science began to shift toward my view with the paradigm shift from genetic determinism to epigenetics.





I'm going to do something similar to what I did then, and say no one can objectively (not as yet) say what are the mental attributes of a female brain that so differentiate it from a male brain. If they exist then discrimination based upon sex (mental inabilities or inclinations) is possibly justified.

But let me guess--you're a feminist (male or female)--that supports stereotypes about the sexes when it suits your purpose to make a claim about Caitlyn Jenner, right?

So, how does a female brain think? It does not like to shoot rifles but prefers to try on dresses in a shopping mall? The female brain is only sexually attracted to men?

You believe Newsweek is not a source of fake news right? So, is it a combination of American men having more female-like brains along with all the women and transsexuals in the US military which makes Muslim Afghani men view Americans as less courageous than Russians?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/while-americans-fight-taliban-putin-041005287.html

While Americans Fight the Taliban, Putin Is Making Headway in Afghanistan

[Newsweek]
Arturo G. Muñoz
NewsweekJuly 30, 2017

An Afghan communist officer who fought with the Russians told me that his side lost because they could not overcome their image as atheist infidels.

Today, however, Russia is seeking to remake its image by exploiting Afghan disappointment with the dismal results of the post-9/11 intervention by the U.S. and its allies.

At present, Russia is enjoying a remarkable comeback in the land that once fought so violently to expel it. According to an experienced Afghan businessman, the growing Russian engagement in Kabul business ventures and other activities produces negative comparisons with Americans.

While the latter have gained a reputation for living behind walls, afraid to venture out among Afghans because of the terrorist threat, the Russians reportedly walk the streets openly, take taxis and visit Afghan associates and friends in their homes without security escorts.

The theme of American fear of Afghans evidently is taking root. Several Afghan elders that I interviewed in the context of a counterinsurgency study told me spontaneously that the “Russians were braver than you [Americans].” When I posed this question to an old mujahid commander who had waged fierce battles against the Russians, he pondered it for a moment and responded that they were not braver but instead were more ruthless, obliterating entire rebel villages.

When I countered that this ruthlessness did not gain victory in the end, and the Russians must have made serious mistakes, he responded: “Mistakes? No. They simply ran out of money.”

Allah works in strange ways. Science shifted towards my rational view on homosexuality circa 2010 and now Newsweek is shifting its theme and thesis if you will towards my position I held for years. And I know Newsweek must have been one of these damned pro-Obama rhetoric news sources repeating the same lame narrative, "If we dare say 'Islamic Terrorist' we are going to *make* more Muslims punch us in the mouth in Afghanistan and in mainland USA."

I stated numerous times that men of violence (and women of violence) hear that and *hear* total weakness. I've been around violent men my whole life. I knew and stated that Muslims in the East would view Americans as timid and very afraid. And I'm going to hazard a guess Muslim men are not shaking in their boots at TV images of anti-Trump rallies in support of transsexuals in the US military.
 
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