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How many will lose their health insurance with the of ACA in Reddest states

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https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-losses-state-senate-health-care-repeal-bill/
According to this article I count 9,447,700 in the reddest state including over 231,000 in Kentucky alone. Maybe Mitch is more afraid of his wealthy donors than the voters in his state. I can understand why. They thought Mitch and trump were just fooling about repealing Obamacare. What made them believe that after the GOP and MCConnell had been promising for 8 years they were going to do so? And what gave them the idea that the GOP was going to give them a better deal? I don't know whether they are just uninformed or plain stupid. The wealthy are going to be laughing all the way to the bank on this deal.
 
independentusa said:
https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-losses-state-senate-health-care-repeal-bill/
According to this article I count 9,447,700 in the reddest state including over 231,000 in Kentucky alone. Maybe Mitch is more afraid of his wealthy donors than the voters in his state. I can understand why. They thought Mitch and trump were just fooling about repealing Obamacare. What made them believe that after the GOP and MCConnell had been promising for 8 years they were going to do so? And what gave them the idea that the GOP was going to give them a better deal? I don't know whether they are just uninformed or plain stupid. The wealthy are going to be laughing all the way to the bank on this deal.
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Please quote verbatim the portion of the CBO report which says that number will LOSE their insurance. I'll wait.
 
This particular concept, how many voters per state, per federal CD, per state senate or house district get ****ed by wealthcare, will be the GOP version of REDMAP 2010 .
 
Did you read the article. The numbers are from the CBO report.
 
independentusa said:
https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-losses-state-senate-health-care-repeal-bill/
According to this article I count 9,447,700 in the reddest state including over 231,000 in Kentucky alone. Maybe Mitch is more afraid of his wealthy donors than the voters in his state. I can understand why. They thought Mitch and trump were just fooling about repealing Obamacare. What made them believe that after the GOP and MCConnell had been promising for 8 years they were going to do so? And what gave them the idea that the GOP was going to give them a better deal? I don't know whether they are just uninformed or plain stupid. The wealthy are going to be laughing all the way to the bank on this deal.
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What typology do these people have that they do not take out insurance or turn to Medicaid or Medicare?

The other question is, why Obama didn't pursue bipartisanship on such an enormous societal shift. I mean, this is a much larger portion of the economy than military spending. Only a nut would stand that on feeble legs.
 
joG said:
What typology do these people have that they do not take out insurance or turn to Medicaid or Medicare?

The other question is, why Obama didn't pursue bipartisanship on such an enormous societal shift. I mean, this is a much larger portion of the economy than military spending. Only a nut would stand that on feeble legs.
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The same could be said about trump and the republicans. Just replace Obama with trump and the same holds true. Revenge tactics don't work either in the long run which is what the republicans have been doing.
 
Praxas said:
The same could be said about trump and the republicans. Just replace Obama with trump and the same holds true. Revenge tactics don't work either in the long run which is what the republicans have been doing.
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As far as I understood the Democrats have not been willing to cooperate, as they have been betting on Republicans not being able to stop ACA. I don't really see "revenge" as a sensible category here.
 
joG said:
As far as I understood the Democrats have not been willing to cooperate, as they have been betting on Republicans not being able to stop ACA. I don't really see "revenge" as a sensible category here.
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Republicans have not offered and held secret meetings without an invite to dems. Please cite this invitation to join from republicans.

FYI saying you are repealing is not asking on join. It's akin to dems saying to republicans "please join our effort for open borders".
 
independentusa said:
https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-losses-state-senate-health-care-repeal-bill/
According to this article I count 9,447,700 in the reddest state including over 231,000 in Kentucky alone. Maybe Mitch is more afraid of his wealthy donors than the voters in his state. I can understand why. They thought Mitch and trump were just fooling about repealing Obamacare. What made them believe that after the GOP and MCConnell had been promising for 8 years they were going to do so? And what gave them the idea that the GOP was going to give them a better deal? I don't know whether they are just uninformed or plain stupid. The wealthy are going to be laughing all the way to the bank on this deal.
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McConnell could give a "rats ass" about the middle/working class folks in the Bluegrass State. He is "owned" by "big money" and has been for years. I hate to see anything bad happen to anybody, but it is hard not to laugh at how gullible the majority of dumbass Trump voters really are.
 
Praxas said:
Republicans have not offered and held secret meetings without an invite to dems. Please cite this invitation to join from republicans.

FYI saying you are repealing is not asking on join. It's akin to dems saying to republicans "please join our effort for open borders".
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I don't think that that is the right way to approach this. If someone doesn't invite you, you tell the people you want to help and make a move to do so. Whining that nobody likes you is not the way to go, unless you don't want a bipartisan solution but wat to prevent it for other reasons.
 
independentusa said:
Did you read the article. The numbers are from the CBO report.
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Again, please quote verbatim the portion of the CBO report which says that number will LOSE their insurance.
 
countryboy said:
Again, please quote verbatim the portion of the CBO report which says that number will LOSE their insurance.
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No need to, at all, but knock yourself out. I think what you are implying is that you are against Medicaid expansion and ACA aiding the poor. Is that right?
 
JamesBY said:
No need to, at all, but knock yourself out. I think what you are implying is that you are against Medicaid expansion and ACA aiding the poor. Is that right?
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Perhaps you can quote verbatim, from the CBO report. :shrug:

I have no problem aiding the poor. I am against the ACA period. No Medicaid expansion is needed to aid the poor. Currently under the ACA expanded Medicaid, millionaires can qualify for subsidies. Are you okay with that? Is that "helping the poor"? :roll:
 
countryboy said:
Perhaps you can quote verbatim, from the CBO report. :shrug:

I have no problem aiding the poor. I am against the ACA period. No Medicaid expansion is needed to aid the poor. Currently under the ACA expanded Medicaid, millionaires can qualify for subsidies. Are you okay with that? Is that "helping the poor"? :roll:
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You are against the poor, yes, in view of your comments. The silliness of trying to pin down CBO language and "helping poor millionaires" does not deserve a serious response.

To help you, though, you can inventory at https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=...s+this+many+people+will+lose+health+insurance
 
joG said:
I don't think that that is the right way to approach this. If someone doesn't invite you, you tell the people you want to help and make a move to do so. Whining that nobody likes you is not the way to go, unless you don't want a bipartisan solution but wat to prevent it for other reasons.
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So if the dems approached the republicans to work on open borders you would be upset if the
Republicans said no? Would you consider that an invitation by the dems?
 
Praxas said:
So if the dems approached the republicans to work on open borders you would be upset if the
Republicans said no? Would you consider that an invitation by the dems?
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I would expect them to discuss, where the rules should be and how to optimize legal immigration for the good of the country. Where is the problem?
 
independentusa said:
https://www.americanprogress.org/is...-losses-state-senate-health-care-repeal-bill/
According to this article I count 9,447,700 in the reddest state including over 231,000 in Kentucky alone. Maybe Mitch is more afraid of his wealthy donors than the voters in his state. I can understand why. They thought Mitch and trump were just fooling about repealing Obamacare. What made them believe that after the GOP and MCConnell had been promising for 8 years they were going to do so? And what gave them the idea that the GOP was going to give them a better deal? I don't know whether they are just uninformed or plain stupid. The wealthy are going to be laughing all the way to the bank on this deal.
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The people who will lose their health insurance probably couldn't afford to use it anyway. Those whose premiums were subsidized? Doubt they could afford the deductible.

The government needs to get out of the health insurance business. They suck at it. Just look at Medicare and the phenomenal deficit it runs.
 
MaggieD said:
The people who will lose their health insurance probably couldn't afford to use it anyway. Those whose premiums were subsidized? Doubt they could afford the deductible.

The government needs to get out of the health insurance business. They suck at it. Just look at Medicare and the phenomenal deficit it runs.
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suggest you do your homework before you post crap.
 
joG said:
I would expect them to discuss, where the rules should be and how to optimize legal immigration for the good of the country. Where is the problem?
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then why did you support the party of no (the republicans) when they refused to work with obama on the ACA? Why is it ok for republicans not to work with the dems but not the other way around?
 
MaggieD said:
The people who will lose their health insurance probably couldn't afford to use it anyway. Those whose premiums were subsidized? Doubt they could afford the deductible.

The government needs to get out of the health insurance business. They suck at it. Just look at Medicare and the phenomenal deficit it runs.
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Wow, what elitist bull**** you just posted there. Just like a trump supporter would.
 
Praxas said:
Republicans have not offered and held secret meetings without an invite to dems. Please cite this invitation to join from republicans.

FYI saying you are repealing is not asking on join. It's akin to dems saying to republicans "please join our effort for open borders".
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I believe the current demorat code words used for "open borders" to be "a path to citizenship". ;)

I see your point but "repeal" now only means "rename" since it is tightly coupled with "replace". Most of the republicants were liars and/or fools to have talked of repealing PPACA when they merely meant that they would like to "reform" PPACA (keeping the good parts).

IMHO, the demorats are wise to let the mess of federal meddling in "private" medical care be taken over by the republicants. It allows them to do exactly what the republicants did to them - declare the result to be an expensive mess and run on promising to "reform" (not repeal and replace) the federal role in medical care funding/regulation.
 
katzgar said:
suggest you do your homework before you post crap.
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And I suggest you correct me if I'm wrong. If I am, you'll find I admit it. But telling a well-meaning poster who posts a non threatening opinion that they are posting crap is rude and obnoxious.
 
MaggieD said:
And I suggest you correct me if I'm wrong. If I am, you'll find I admit it. But telling a well-meaning poster who posts a non threatening opinion that they are posting crap is rude and obnoxious.
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If you wouldn't quit quoting right-wing lies no correction would be necessary
 
katzgar said:
If you wouldn't quit quoting right-wing lies no correction would be necessary
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You didn't and HAVEN'T corrected me. You've insulted me. Go use those internet muscles in the mirror, Katzgar. At least you won't be overmatched.

Now. Stick to the thread subject or move along.
 
MaggieD said:
You didn't and HAVEN'T corrected me. You've insulted me. Go use those internet muscles in the mirror, Katzgar. At least you won't be overmatched.

Now. Stick to the thread subject or move along.
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You've been corrected on this topic many times before
 
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