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Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

OlNate said:
No? You sure? Because if it's all just bunk, why expend so much effort? All us silly SJW will just flutter about for nothing, expending our own energies, while accomplishing nothing, according to your logic. Seems to me you protest too much against such an "non-issue". It's ok, you can share what triggered you with me, I promise I'll be more sensitive going forward.

As for an explanation of privilege, that's already been done multiple times today, not my fault if you don't have the mental capacity to understand and discuss it. You just keep denying and wailing, Ludin, and when you actually have something to debate, you let me know, I'll be here. Hugs until then, big fella.
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I haven't put half the energy you have to push this false philosophy.
I have accomplished a great deal.

One being people that would read that trash and think they are a problem because they are white doesn't need to.

I already discussed it and th definition and proved it wrong.
In fact I proved that it is nothing more than an attempt to push a SJW narrative and
Demean people based on the color of their skin. Basically racism.

To make them feel guilty that they are white when thy have no reason too.
You can't deny what clearly is made up SJW RHetoric.
 
calamity said:
Don't worry. You are not imagining it. White privilege clearly exists, and a lot of angry whites will certainly insist that it does not.
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If you want to project please do it to yourself and not others. You insult them.
 
radcen said:
Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

What am I supposed to do with that little piece of knowledge?

Am I supposed to be ashamed? Am I supposed to just shrug and move on with my life like I always have, only slightly more 'enlightened'? Something else?
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Acknowledge the advantages you have, be understanding of those that don't have it, and above all, don't be a dick.
 
WillyPete said:
I think ThoughtEx. said what I meant better in post #15 , if that helps.
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What he said was a bunch of gobble de gook.
A bunch of SJW nonsense that doesn't apply to hardly anyone.

Except those that feel guilty for being a certain skin color.

If you want to go that route there are far more things to feel guilty for.
I have nothing to feel guilty for and nothing to be sorry for because I am white and no one else should either.
 
beefheart said:
Acknowledge the advantages you have, be understanding of those that don't have it, and above all, don't be a dick.
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I hope you realize that he is being sarcastic.
 
I have black privilage now what?
 
jdog21 said:
I have black privilage now what?
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Lol. You go man. :lol:

People need to drop the race crap. People are people and individuals prove themselves by their merits.
I work with a very large diverse group of people from all over the world.

It doesn't matter what color their skin is they are proven by their work and aptitude.
 
You want other people to tell you what to think and do because you realized you likely are the beneficiary of what is described as white privilege?
Likely white male privilege, in the United States, maybe from a middle+class family. That's like a quadruple privilege in today's world. Me personally, I frankly feel lucky. I mean, sure I'd be *even more* lucky to be born when we live to be 1000 and have passed AI singularity, but today is not so bad in this white male meat bag in the U.S :)

Why would it necessitate you do anything, or think anything, any more than being aware that rain is wet, the sky often looks blue, and humans evolved from lower life forms?
It's an academic label, meant to help describe certain human behaviors in sociology, in order to understand reality. Unless you're in that field or making policy, it's probably not that relevant to you is my guess. Do you go through the entire list of scientific classifications and ponder what to do with each?

No, so why do that here? Because you feel guilty about something? Hmm, sit back, relax. Tell me about your mother. (in the psychiatrist sense)

If someone accuses you in a derogatory way of being privileged, tell them to shut the **** up and mind their own business...that sometimes works.
 
ludin said:
Lol. You go man. :lol:

People need to drop the race crap. People are people and individuals prove themselves by their merits.
I work with a very large diverse group of people from all over the world.

It doesn't matter what color their skin is they are proven by their work and aptitude.
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The government pushes the race divide and will continue so cause its a control mechanism, to control the largest and poorest part of our society to help protect themselves and the rich from public ridicule and the poor uprising.
 
jdog21 said:
The government pushes the race divide and will continue so cause its a control mechanism, to control the largest and poorest part of our society to help protect themselves and the rich from public ridicule and the poor uprising.
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Bingo. Without the racial divide the government losses control over people.
An it goes further than that.

Most people really don't care who is rich or poor. What they want is the opportunity.
The racial divide stops that from happening.

Just as there are issues in the white community there are issues in the black one as well.
Government control would be destroyed.
 
ludin said:
Bingo. Without the racial divide the government losses control over people.
An it goes further than that.

Most people really don't care who is rich or poor. What they want is the opportunity.
The racial divide stops that from happening.

Just as there are issues in the white community there are issues in the black one as well.
Government control would be destroyed.
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So how exactly does acknowledging and seeking to rectify the consequences of the racial divide contradict any of what you're saying here??
 
Anyone else noticed that we have come full circle on race relations in the last 60 years or So?

People used to condemn those that claimed white superiority and fight to end segregation.

Now people are fighting for segregation and wanting white people to acknowledge how privileged they are.
 
radcen said:
Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

What am I supposed to do with that little piece of knowledge?

Am I supposed to be ashamed? Am I supposed to just shrug and move on with my life like I always have, only slightly more 'enlightened'? Something else?
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This is my personal opinion on the whole "white privilege" thing. My opinion. Take it or leave it.

I'll try to keep it short and use brief points.



1) If in fact Americans as a nationality of all different races, ethnicities, backgrounds etc., want to unite everyone as "one nationality" (in true terms, not fake) then the phrase or any equivalence of it such as "white pride" needs to be dropped from the political discourse. It only furthers acrimony and division.

2) I have no problem with the phrase "white privilege" being used and discussed in academia. Mainly at the college level. One purpose of college is to interact with different and varying ideas.

3) For arguments sake, lets say white privilege does exist. At a deeper analysis it does not seem to be universal or benefit all whites in America equally. Even among white Americans there is asymmetry and inequality in life within the broader white America.

4) Some black, brown, Asian or whatever people... are born into or raised in privilege even in the United States relative to many white Americans. The son of celebrity Will Smith being an example.

5) At the more personal and family level this can get problematic to judge and qualify as some many individuals and families differ. There are some black inner-city kids living in more loving homes, with parents of higher character, than some white kids being raised by their parents in upper-middle-class homes in small towns or suburbs. I say some. I don't say 50/50 or most. "In general" I think the inner-city black kid has the less ideal home environment.

At the personal level some white woman in say... Kenosha, Wisconsin might be miserable even with a middle-class income and no husband or boyfriend. Her and her dog as she is increasingly alone at age 38. And some Black-American or Puerto Rican woman in her mid 20's living in Brooklyn, New York might be having a blast in life. She might be on welfare or mayube not and working a low paid non-skilled job but the build of her body and her personality attracts a lot of men with expendable money to lavish attention and gifts on her. Occasionally one might per her rent. She and several of her "girlfriends" are "tight" with one another. She has a child but she always as a sister, aunt, or moms to drop him off to to baby sit as she and her girls int the Friday night at clubs.

Some people, even when they seem to have the world, money, high status job, community admiration, beautiful wife that is faithful, nice house, plenty of good friends, they still are deeply depressed and in a closet gnawing on the business end of a gun, just wishing they could muster the courage to pull the trigger.





On the other hand. For arguments sake let's say white privilege does *not* exist. Or at least to no real significant degree to really alter any outcome. One or more, tens, hundreds, or thousands of white Americans can *give* the impression to many black, brown, and red people that they have white privilege by some asinine things they say. By some dumb assumptions. Probably by way of some sheltered life and insecurities. Professionally and financially (not really romantically) insecurities can drive a man to great levels of success. So, it can be used in a wise way actually. Can be. If it will be is another question.
 
OK, so "white privilege" is officially a thing, anyone know where a poor FL cracker can cash mine in? I might as well, because mine aint working, I need a refund.
 
OlNate said:
Well, admitting it exists is a good start. Some folks on here can't even get that far.

Being ashamed isn't required...that's a myth.

I think there are a lot of ways you can get involved. I mean, you're a regular voice on here, you can offset those that would suggest it doesn't exist.

Here's an article that does a better job of it than I can, especially after battling all day about the existence of privilege.

How to Use Your Privilege for Good - By brandon-sheffield - January 18, 2017 - SF Weekly

There are a lot of others, but it's a start.

Good luck. :)
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you need help!

but u are doing your best to ruin this country,,,,i was born poor as dirt,,,only got a 10th grade ed...no body gave me **** because i was white!!!!!!! i have been arrested and got 90 days for my second DUI when it should have been 45 days. Because I was a smart ass. guess i got the extra jail time because i was white

If i was black I could have scream racism racism racism and blamed everything on da man! because people like u pity blacks
 
radcen said:
Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

What am I supposed to do with that little piece of knowledge?

Am I supposed to be ashamed? Am I supposed to just shrug and move on with my life like I always have, only slightly more 'enlightened'? Something else?
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Now you're supposed to vote Democrat.
 
FastPace said:
1) If in fact Americans as a nationality of all different races, ethnicities, backgrounds etc., want to unite everyone as "one nationality" (in true terms, not fake) then the phrase or any equivalence of it such as "white pride" needs to be dropped from the political discourse. It only furthers acrimony and division.
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I meant to type "white privilege."
 
OlNate said:
Sorry, you seem a little more normal, I've been getting my ass kicked all day for even suggesting such a thing exists, so forgive my terse response.

The uniform disparity across the demographic indicates there is something more difficult to deal with than can be done by simply pulling oneself up by the bootstraps. The problem is cyclical, so it's difficult to pinpoint exactly where the problem begins between two driving factors: disparity of wealth and disparity of education, where one leads to the other and vice versa - kind of a chicken and egg proposition. In individual cases there can be any number of driving factors, however statistically speaking at the demographic level we should see that represented by a curve (we do, that's a normal measure in social analysis). If things were equal across races, each race should be able to overlay their curve over another, however that's not what we see in example after example.

There can only be a few explanations why a demographic's curve doesn't overlay another's: either they are genetically predisposed to over / under performance, they choose as a demographic uniformly to over / under perform, or an outside societal influence causes them to over / under perform. It gets more complicated when you're measuring things done *to* the demographic, vs. things the demographic does themselves - for example, the fact that black people are much more likely to be searched by the police.

It's been a long day, perhaps I can follow up with links tomorrow if you are actually interested in seeing what's out there. Or, you can google "Black Disparity Statistics" and get a good cross section of issues and sources, all of which point to the fact that disparity exists. And therein lies white privilege, if we cannot point to anything else...statistically we are better off in every way that the black demographic is behind.
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My problem with using those statistics to say that white people are either superior or privileged is that the logic falls apart the moment you introduce other races and not simply isolate white vs black. By just about every statistical measure white people are remarkably average. Also, if you compare those same statistics with 1st and 2nd generation black Americans against those who have longer ancestry there is a significant gap as well which would lead me to believe that it is less to do with race and more to do with culture.


According to a Brookings study, the 3 key elements to breaking through poverty into the middle class is: A high school degree, a job, and not having kids before marriage. Given the single motherhood and high school drop out rate among African Americans leads me to believe that the wealth and poverty rate disparity is less to do with race and more to do with culture as well.
 
FastPace said:
1) If in fact Americans as a nationality of all different races, ethnicities, backgrounds etc., want to unite everyone as "one nationality" (in true terms, not fake) then the phrase or any equivalence of it such as "white pride" needs to be dropped from the political discourse. It only furthers acrimony and division.
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I agree with what FastPace said here. I object to the term "white privilege." And not because statistics don't show that blacks are at a disadvantage in this country because clearly they are at a disadvantage. The term white privilege though means nothing. It's a war cry to galvanize minority communities to highlight race disparities over actual problems that really exist.

Why not coin the phrase "Black Under-education?" That means something because minorities, especially blacks suffer in this country primarily from a lack of education.

Or why not make your war cry "Inner City Violence." That means something because violence, drugs and crime make cities incapable of increasing the quality of their communities especially black communities.

These terms would at least refer to real problems that need to be solved. I don't see these problems being highlighted when "white privilege" is evoked. All the term "white privilege" accomplishes is implying blame, and evoking resentment.

I agree with one thing here, the term isn't supposed to make whites feel guilty, rather it's meant to make non-whites angry and I oppose it's use because it's destructive rather than constructive.
 
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