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If You Could Redo Nov 8?

I voted fr Jon Huntsman. Still would. But if it is solely a choice between Trump and Clinton the answer is simple. Neil Gorsuch. And that there may well be at least one more and perhaps two SCOTUS vacancies? Still the right person for the job.

Now lets be honest. Trump has an inept GOP congress and a leftists opposition that is committed to destroying him. Where we are today cant be much of a shocker. Now...could he do himself a massive favor by shutting down his Twitter account and just getting to work? Of course. Will he? Doubtful. But at the end of the day it still comes down to Trump or Hillary Clinton. And only the worst partisan muppets on the planet wanted a bite out of that **** sandwich.
 
calamity said:
Well, 12.5% of the Trump voters certainly appear to be wishing for a do over. :lol:



I didn't vote for either Trump of Hillary. I doubt that I would change that position, even knowing what I know today.

Knowing what you know now, would you do anything different on that day?
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The July 11-12 poll gathered its sample from 1,296 people, including 541 Trump voters, while the May 10-15 poll gathered its sample from 1,206 people, including 543 Trump voters.
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The article says they only polled 1000 trump voters, so 1 in 8 would be like 150 people. That wouldnt even change one county. And this is people predicting. Once they had to walk in and actually spend that vote would they still make the same decision when it counted?
 
calamity said:
I was stuck on former two-term president's wife. It also did not help that I did not like the former two-term president. So, for me it was more about not wanting to put Bill back in the WH than anything else.

Had she divorced his sorry ass...well, different ballgame.
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New article on politico with Sen. McCain slamming trump on Syria and Afghanistan. McCain is much preferable to whoever their Gov. Ducey would choose to replace him.

We know from GOP statements that impeachment hearings would have started 1/21/17 on Clinton. Chaffetz, who's ironically gone now, told us of his plans to draw up articles over the transition.

McConnell would have ground the Senate to a halt trying to force Clinton to resign, a very real constitutional crisis. This is why GOPs get no quarter from me .
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Clinton and the democrats at least have a vision were the country stands for something
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Americans certainly have a penchant for changing political parties of the POTUS every 12, 8, or 4 years dating back to Cleveland, excluding FDR.

While giving no quarter to GOPs, who deserve none after their last 8 years of obstruction, DEMs must give Americans the positive vision you speak of and strongly advertise it .
 
NIMBY said:
Americans certainly have a penchant for changing political parties of the POTUS every 12, 8, or 4 years dating back to Cleveland, excluding FDR.

While giving no quarter to GOPs, who deserve none after their last 8 years of obstruction, DEMs must give Americans the positive vision you speak of and strongly advertise it .
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The question is what do Americans want their country to stand for? What values does it represent?
 
If we liberals could re-do November 8, we would create 6 million instead of 3 million illegal votes, take many more bus loads of voters out of Massachusetts to vote a second and third time elsewhere, etc. We think too small.
 
Nope, wouldn't change my vote.
 
I would vote the same way, but unless this was a mass do-over I'd bet bigly on Trump to win.

I would now be retired and living in a MUCH nicer house.:mrgreen:
 
calamity said:
Well, 12.5% of the Trump voters certainly appear to be wishing for a do over. :lol:



I didn't vote for either Trump of Hillary. I doubt that I would change that position, even knowing what I know today.

Knowing what you know now, would you do anything different on that day?
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I would still vote McMullen knowing that it is easier to get rid of Trump than Clinton.
 
I think if Hillary won, we would have House and Senate investigations into the Clinton foundations and a rehash of the email non-sense. Substitute Clinton Foundation for Russians.

It would have been better if we had better candidates on both sides. Bernie Sanders vs John Kasich.
 
calamity said:
Well, 12.5% of the Trump voters certainly appear to be wishing for a do over. :lol:



I didn't vote for either Trump of Hillary. I doubt that I would change that position, even knowing what I know today.

Knowing what you know now, would you do anything different on that day?
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I didn't vote for him but I'm good with the outcome. This Russian **** is fascinating.
 
NIMBY said:
New article on politico with Sen. McCain slamming trump on Syria and Afghanistan. McCain is much preferable to whoever their Gov. Ducey would choose to replace him.

We know from GOP statements that impeachment hearings would have started 1/21/17 on Clinton. Chaffetz, who's ironically gone now, told us of his plans to draw up articles over the transition.

McConnell would have ground the Senate to a halt trying to force Clinton to resign, a very real constitutional crisis. This is why GOPs get no quarter from me .
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Best case scenario is what we have now--Trump imploding and the GOP looking like idiots. Hopefully this pays off in the long run.
 
NIMBY said:
When do you think trump will pardon junior ?
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For what, talking to Russian lawyer, when did that become against the law, democrats do it all the time.


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I'm fine with not having voted for either. Not that it came close to mattering in Missouri.
 
I voted for Trump. Assuming we had the same choices, I would not change my vote.

Trump still has leagues to travel and miles to fall before I would be able to see Hillary as anything other than the greatest of those two evils.

Edit: I did not vote for Trump in the primary. That correctly implies he was not my first choice. I still wouldn't vote for him in the primary but if nominated, I would in the general election.
 
MrShangles said:
For what, talking to Russian lawyer, when did that become against the law, democrats do it all the time.


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Among 4 other Russians, including a money laundering Real Estate tycoon--no, not Trump.
 
Anagram said:
I'm fine with not having voted for either. Not that it came close to mattering in Missouri.
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It didn't matter in Ohio either, which probably influenced my decision to stay home, at least somewhat.
 
I didn't vote for either Trump or Hillary so a do-over would change nothing from my end.
 
Rogue Valley said:
I didn't vote for either Trump or Hillary so a do-over would change nothing from my end.
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And, you know what? It seems to be turning out well. Trump is destroying the GOP from within, whereas a Hillary victory would only have united them by giving them a common enemy.

And, as for the D, Hillary losing to Trump sent them a huge message. I am sure that was not lost in the shuffle. They will probably never again try to ram an unpopular candidate down their voters' throats.
 
calamity said:
Trump is destroying the GOP from within
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Seems to me that leftists are eating themselves. Bill Maher being called a racist. Jake Tapper being called a White Supremacist by the leader of the Women's March for criticizing the celebration of a escaped cop killer.
 
Dragonfly said:
Possibly. Probably. Who knows.

However, a much bigger question is who would the GOP have nominated.
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Conservatives have pulling back from the status quo for quite some time now (not long enough or fast enough for my taste), so I think that they'd still elect Trump. Trump was the expression of the discontent with the current political system that the TEA Party showed the first signs of. The rest of the candidates were just another cog in the political machine and Trump was the only one who wasn't. I honestly believe that's the main reason he got elected and that hasn't changed one bit. Yes, he's crass, loud, obnoxious and kind of annoying at times, but he's also a change from the status quo. Odd that it's now conservatives who are the ones fighting the status quo and liberals who fighting to maintain it...
 
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