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Trump "I Don't Own Obama-Care"

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Critter7r said:
Your post accused katzgar of saying that 77% of "all health care payers" (and maybe Im misinterpreting your intended meaning of this phrase) were shelling out $100 or less per month, when it's only 77% of Obamacare enrollees.

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I would just ignore him, his posts are not honest just agenda driven.
 
Mach said:
So you agree Republicans chose Trump, and it was not only a vote against Hillary.

As to your new argument...such is the cycle of politics...we had 8 years, dems got lazy, and Hillary seemed by all accounts to be the only sane person running...people let their guard down apparently.
Well, that and the DNC strategic data leaked that let Republicans win key electoral votes in battleground areas, which no polling could have ever predicted. Ever wonder why she won the popular by so much and the polls were all wrong? Must have been his animal magnetism.
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Hillary essentially won 4 states with large liberal majorities. She didnt 'win' the popular vote as there is no contest for the 'popular vote'.

Look...even today, democrats are admitting they cant stand her. She was a bad candidate and the collusion between her camp, the DNC, and the media to **** over Bernie Sanders...that didnt help very much.

Hillary Lost. Trump won. We wouldnt have Trump without Hillary.
 
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Trump has nothing to do with Obamacare. He wanted to repeal and replace it and thus I think he is right in saying he doesn't want anything to do with it, it wasn't his creation it was Obama's.
 
Grand Mal said:
Gawd, what a piss-poor government you're willing to accept. Do nothing, blame someone.
All in the name of partisan bickering.
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And you were the lone liberal voice wailing against "Do nothing, blame someone" for the 8 years of the previous administration...right?

Come on, man....
 
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MrPolitical said:
Trump has nothing to do with Obamacare. He wanted to repeal and replace it and thus I think he is right in saying he doesn't want anything to do with it, it wasn't his creation it was Obama's.
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Trump promised better coverage and lower premiums we're still waiting
 
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katzgar said:
Trump promised better coverage and lower premiums we're still waiting
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So did Obama, and we've been waiting a hell of a lot longer for that promise to be fulfilled than anything Trump has promised.
 
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humbolt said:
So did Obama, and we've been waiting a hell of a lot longer for that promise to be fulfilled than anything Trump has promised.
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Did you know Obama is not president anymore the scumbag in chief is president now
 
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katzgar said:
Did you know Obama is not president anymore the scumbag in chief is president now
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You were content to sit around for 7 years and not complain about promises unfulfilled by Obama. Did something suddenly bite you on the ass and wake you up?
 
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humbolt said:
You were content to sit around for 7 years and not complain about promises unfulfilled by Obama. Did something suddenly bite you on the ass and wake you up?
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Your post is a flat ass lie
 
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MrPolitical said:
Trump has nothing to do with Obamacare. He wanted to repeal and replace it and thus I think he is right in saying he doesn't want anything to do with it, it wasn't his creation it was Obama's.
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This is like my 8-year-old crying that he's not going to touch any of it when I bring up a laundry basket mixed with his brother's clothes.
 
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humbolt said:
So did Obama, and we've been waiting a hell of a lot longer for that promise to be fulfilled than anything Trump has promised.
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I'll also point out that 77% of those on ACA have a premium of 100. or less so for most the low premiums have been here for awhile.
 
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katzgar said:
I just did.
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No, you didn't. You offered no exculpation. What, about pointing out that you support the ACA and/or it's intended single payer successor, is untrue?
 
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katzgar said:
I'll also point out that 77% of those on ACA have a premium of 100. or less so for most the low premiums have been here for awhile.
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You are conspicuously avoiding discussing deductibles. I wonder why? Of course, none of that shell game has anything whatever to do with your correction of my assertion that you claim is a lie. I'll wait while you figure something out.
 
VanceMack said:
And you were the lone liberal voice wailing against "Do nothing, blame someone" for the 8 years of the previous administration...right?

Come on, man....
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C'mon. The Repubs control the House, the Senate and the White House and still fling blame like monkey poo for them not being able to get diddly-squat done. Half the trouble is they got so locked into obstruction mode for the past eight years that now they're incapable of governing. They might be squandering an opportunity that might not come along again in a long time, too- if they lose a majority at mid-terms. Probably that would suit them to a tee, though; then they can cry about how it's somebody else's fault and at least have a direction to point their fingers in. Not like now.
Doesn't matter to the Trumpophiles, though. That guy I was replying to in the post you quoted was actually advocating doing nothing for the sake of blaming the Democrats. Geez. I though you guys elected a government but looks like it's just a ploy, gamesmanship in the political bicker-fest.
 
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humbolt said:
No, you didn't. You offered no exculpation. What, about pointing out that you support the ACA and/or it's intended single payer successor, is untrue?
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other than the fact that your post is a lie? gotcha.
 
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katzgar said:
other than the fact that your post is a lie? gotcha.
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I believe you would reasonably be required to substantiate your claim that what I mentioned is untrue.
 
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humbolt said:
You are conspicuously avoiding discussing deductibles. I wonder why? Of course, none of that shell game has anything whatever to do with your correction of my assertion that you claim is a lie. I'll wait while you figure something out.
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the deductibles you brought up, make a point or quit whining
 
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humbolt said:
I believe you would reasonably be required to substantiate your claim that what I mentioned is untrue.
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I dont do believe, I know it was a lie
 
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katzgar said:
the deductibles you brought up, make a point or quit whining
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OUt of pocket expenses are out of pocket expenses. What you arbitrarily call them doesn't change where they come from.
 
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humbolt said:
OUt of pocket expenses are out of pocket expenses. What you arbitrarily call them doesn't change where they come from.
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Man you get confused easily so what's your point
 
Grand Mal said:
C'mon. The Repubs control the House, the Senate and the White House and still fling blame like monkey poo for them not being able to get diddly-squat done. Half the trouble is they got so locked into obstruction mode for the past eight years that now they're incapable of governing. They might be squandering an opportunity that might not come along again in a long time, too- if they lose a majority at mid-terms. Probably that would suit them to a tee, though; then they can cry about how it's somebody else's fault and at least have a direction to point their fingers in. Not like now.
Doesn't matter to the Trumpophiles, though. That guy I was replying to in the post you quoted was actually advocating doing nothing for the sake of blaming the Democrats. Geez. I though you guys elected a government but looks like it's just a ploy, gamesmanship in the political bicker-fest.
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You wont get an argument from me re the GOP. They are worthless. They are no different than the democrat party. Its just rather comical watching people that made excuses for Obama's excuses for 8 years suddenly find their voice.
 
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katzgar said:
I dont do believe, I know it was a lie
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But you've presented no evidence of it's untruth. If you claim it's a lie, then present evidence to that effect. You could say, for example, that you don't support the ACA and are not infatuated with single payer.
 
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katzgar said:
Man you get confused easily so what's your point
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The point is that out of pocket expenses - deductibles - are well over $6000 for a basic policy before the insurance even begins to pay anything at all. So if you're going to represent out of pocket costs far a basic policy, present them all. You didn't because that makes your affordability argument worthless. I'm not the one confused here. You are, because you're getting the complete truth in return for your half truths. And you claim I'm the one who's lying. :roll: But do carry on.
 
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