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Trump "I Don't Own Obama-Care"

WCH said:
He's suggesting letting it continue to fail and having the democrats explain why. Being he's getting no support from the establishment Polz, I think it's a good move.

Might help clean that swamp.
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His administration has the responsibility of overseeing the implementation of the ACA. If it collapses it will be the administration's responsibility.

If a bridge collapses due to improper maintenance, the engineer is culpable
 
WCH said:
He's suggesting letting it continue to fail and having the democrats explain why. Being he's getting no support from the establishment Polz, I think it's a good move.

Might help clean that swamp.
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The problem with that is that it isn't failing. That's why HE is!
 
WCH said:
He's suggesting letting it continue to fail and having the democrats explain why. Being he's getting no support from the establishment Polz, I think it's a good move.

Might help clean that swamp.
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I have no idea what it has to do with cleaning the swamp, but it is the right move politically. If you want to get rid of a program without backlash you make the program fail and then put in a replacement or just repeal it. I think Republicans are looking at this as a clock ticking down until 2018. Replacing the ACA with a worse alternative is not smart, but they are reacting to a lot of outside pressure and a short time limit. I actually think the current proposal of repeal without changes for two years is the best bet. It will allow them to get reelected before people actually feel the repeal's effects. Letting it die is okay too, but it will need some help to do so.
 
I dont blame Trump for any part of where our broken medical system is.

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Hawkeye10 said:
I dont blame Trump for any part of where our broken medical system is.

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I agree with that. People call it Trumpcare, but if we are being honest it is Republicare. Trump didn't write anything in the bill, and probably didn't read anything in it either.
 
WCH said:
He's suggesting letting it continue to fail and having the democrats explain why. Being he's getting no support from the establishment Polz, I think it's a good move.

Might help clean that swamp.
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Gawd, what a piss-poor government you're willing to accept. Do nothing, blame someone.
All in the name of partisan bickering.
 
MrPeanut said:
I have no idea what it has to do with cleaning the swamp, but it is the right move politically. If you want to get rid of a program without backlash you make the program fail and then put in a replacement or just repeal it. I think Republicans are looking at this as a clock ticking down until 2018. Replacing the ACA with a worse alternative is not smart, but they are reacting to a lot of outside pressure and a short time limit. I actually think the current proposal of repeal without changes for two years is the best bet. It will allow them to get reelected before people actually feel the repeal's effects. Letting it die is okay too, but it will need some help to do so.
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And screw the people. Just so long as a partisan political point is made, and the party is protected, better to do nothing than risk making a mistake.
Maybe it's true- people get the government they deserve.
 
NIMBY said:
When will trump begin to own his last 6 impotent months ?
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When the elite accept him as our President and end their strike.

Trumps clock starts then, he can get blame starting then.
 
NIMBY said:
When will trump begin to own his last 6 impotent months ?
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He is going to cherry pick the events and accomplishments that bathe him in the best light. He owes Mitch McConnell for his "victory" as far as Justice Gorsuch.....big time!

Oh yeah, the Dow/Jones continuous climb is all his doing!
IMO people are getting what they can before the whole thing goes to crap!
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
His administration has the responsibility of overseeing the implementation of the ACA. If it collapses it will be the administration's responsibility.

If a bridge collapses due to improper maintenance, the engineer is culpable
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Totally understandable. /sarcasm

If I never change the oil in my car and it dies, it's Ford's fault that they can't build a Focus to withstand such abuse. /again, sarcasm
 
Maybe I'm missing something... How was the high unemployment rate and stagnant economy through Obama's presidency all George Bush's fault but the ACA failing 6 months into a Trump presidency is Trump's fault?

From what I see in this thread, we should have been seeing bumper stickers for the last eight years that said "Obama -- Its the economy stupid!".
 
NIMBY said:
When will trump begin to own his last 6 impotent months ?
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never. The man is completely devoid of anything approaching adult responsibility for anything he does wrong or fails to do correctly.
 
dorsai said:
Maybe I'm missing something... How was the high unemployment rate and stagnant economy through Obama's presidency all George Bush's fault but the ACA failing 6 months into a Trump presidency is Trump's fault?

From what I see in this thread, we should have been seeing bumper stickers for the last eight years that said "Obama -- Its the economy stupid!".
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I think the charge is more that Trump is actively sabotaging the ACA.

Nobody blamed Obama for high unemployment, because he wasn't intentionally keeping it high, and it was that way when he got there.
 
haymarket said:
never. The man is completely devoid of anything approaching adult responsibility for anything he does wrong or fails to do correctly.
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You're talking about Obama, right? You must be, because Trump had absolutely nothing whatever to do with the ACA. Nothing.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
His administration has the responsibility of overseeing the implementation of the ACA. If it collapses it will be the administration's responsibility.

If a bridge collapses due to improper maintenance, the engineer is culpable
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You have to be joking.
 
MrPeanut said:
I have no idea what it has to do with cleaning the swamp, but it is the right move politically. If you want to get rid of a program without backlash you make the program fail and then put in a replacement or just repeal it. I think Republicans are looking at this as a clock ticking down until 2018. Replacing the ACA with a worse alternative is not smart, but they are reacting to a lot of outside pressure and a short time limit. I actually think the current proposal of repeal without changes for two years is the best bet. It will allow them to get reelected before people actually feel the repeal's effects. Letting it die is okay too, but it will need some help to do so.
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It was designed to die in the first place. Just with a Democrat at the helm.
 
WCH said:
He's suggesting letting it continue to fail and having the democrats explain why. Being he's getting no support from the establishment Polz, I think it's a good move.

Might help clean that swamp.
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Except, you know perfectly well that they aren't simply letting it run its course. Tons of red states have actively resisted the provisions required to make it work properly, so it doesn't do what it was intended to in those states.


It's incredibly dishonest for these GOP swine to pretend they're just "letting it fail."
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
His administration has the responsibility of overseeing the implementation of the ACA. If it collapses it will be the administration's responsibility.

If a bridge collapses due to improper maintenance, the engineer is culpable
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WCH said:
You have to be joking.
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Well, I certainly hope you never argued that the constitutional mandate to faithfully execute the laws meant that Obama was wrong not to fully enforce immigration laws. That would terribly inconsistent with claiming that Trump has no duty to faithfully execute ACA, you see.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
His administration has the responsibility of overseeing the implementation of the ACA. If it collapses it will be the administration's responsibility.

If a bridge collapses due to improper maintenance, the engineer is culpable
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I’m so very curious, what maintenance would save the ACA. Wait,,,,,, that’s what they are trying to do, fix it.

But yes, the engineers are culpable, they stand by knowing any efforts are now futile.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
When the elite accept him as our President and end their strike.

Trumps clock starts then, he can get blame starting then.
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Trump's party controls the Senate, the House and the White House and still it's someone else's fault nothing gets done?
How does he do that? How did that whiny, spoiled-brat trust-fund-baby get people to make endless excuses for him and blame some formless, vapourous entity called 'the elite' for his failures?
 
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