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An honest discussion about shootings, the media and protests

Josie

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We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
 
Josie said:
We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
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No, I don't think there will be riots. To be honest and blunt, it's because she is white. I don't believe the majority of races respond that way. Could be wrong, but I don't remember seeing white, Hispanic, or Asian rioting much. At least not reported.
 
Josie said:
We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
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Here, we're kind of getting numb to it, which is unfortunate. TBH I don't expect this case to go very far, despite the fact that this was a rare case of the victim being a white woman and not a black man.

It is my understanding that in Australia, however, this is a huge story.
 
If it would have taken this long to learn any details regarding the Trayvon or Michael shooting, there would have already been riots. I don't understand how we don't have a complete picture of what happened already. I can only assume because it was a white woman.
 
Phys251 said:
Here, we're kind of getting numb to it, which is unfortunate. TBH I don't expect this case to go very far, despite the fact that this was a rare case of the victim being a white woman and not a black man.

It is my understanding that in Australia, however, this is a huge story.
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And going to be bigger:

The officer who shot and killed 40-year-old Justine Damond late Saturday apparently violated his department’s rules on the use of body cameras when he failed to activate the device.
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The Minneapolis Police Department’s Policy and Procedure manual says that any use of force requires the camera’s activation. If things change quickly and the officer is too busy, he or she should activate the camera “as soon as it is safe to do so,” according to the manual.

The cameras constantly record a 30-second video buffer, a so-called “lookback” that allows officers to capture whatever happened in the half-minute before it’s activated.

The BCA, which is investigating the shooting, said in a statement that it will be the Police Department’s job to determine whether the officers violated the department’s body camera policy. A police spokesman said Monday that the department had no comment on the officers’ use of body cameras.
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Failure to turn on body cameras flouted policy - StarTribune.com
 
Josie said:
We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
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Protests, if they happen at all, will be very small and will not be covered by the MSM. There is no back story about racial animus with this incident so additional discussion doesn't generally drive additional viewers/readers.
 
Josie said:
We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
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Greetings, Josie. :2wave:

Well said! :thumbs:
 
Josie said:
We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
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No, the Austrailians are not a marginalized minority group with an axe to grind. I'm sure people will feel strongly about it, and some demonstrations may occur in MN, but, as far as the unrest reaching Michael Brown levels.. no way. The shooting of Michael Brown and the reaction was a perfect storm of racial injustice and tensions in the St. Louis area. You ever feel tensions build with your man/significant other.. they may build over a period of a week or a month, and then, one day, either someone forgets to do the dishes, or comes home drunk, or, decides to watch something the other one hates on TV, and a full blown supernova explodes in the house? That is kind of how Michael Brown was. Tensions buildup and then an event that set it off.
 
Josie said:
We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
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There will be no protests, no celebrities, no riots. The victim is white, the cop is black. Nothing to see here, move along.
 
Josie said:
We have had a few major events in the past 5 years that caused a large national uproar including 24/7 media coverage, protests and even riots in the streets. The two biggest where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman and the shooting of Michael Brown by Officer Wilson. Both shootings become nationwide stories very quickly with national news reporters reporting live from the scene, 24/7 news coverage and interviews with family members and witnesses. Both of these events (and others) also were accompanied by large protests that the media streamed and reported on live. All of the shooting victims were presumed innocent since they were unarmed which was the cause of all the outrage. In the two biggest cases, for sure, celebrities become involved as well. Some of the protests turned violent and destructive.

Thinking back on these events --- how focused the media was on them, people tweeting their opinions on them at an unreadable fast rate, the hundreds of protests across the country for them, the celebrities speaking out about them - our lives were saturated with news and commentary about these events. Everyone knew about it - almost everyone was talking about it.

Now we have an Australian woman in Minnesota who was shot by a police officer. She was also unarmed. Will there be 24/7 news coverage? Will celebrities speak out against this? Will there be protests across the country? Will there be riots? Will everyone know about and and be talking about?

Why or why not?
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Is she Black?
 
Here is the cop that killed her

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He actually looks really, really familiar to me.
 
Sad story for sure.

How dangerous is a woman in PJ's standing beside a cruiser talking with the cops? ( no weapon? )

A mindless shooting in my opinion.

I can't wrap my head around this one, and most of you know that I am very "pro" cop.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I don't think the normal rioters will rally around this one, wonder why?
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I thought the reason for protesting was outrage about the police shooting unarmed citizens. I guess it's only unarmed citizens of a certain skin color. :shrug:
 
Josie said:
I thought the reason for protesting was outrage about the police shooting unarmed citizens. I guess it's only unarmed citizens of a certain skin color. :shrug:
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Rape a tragedy so you can attack BLM. Classy!






(Oh, right, and very very neutral. Yes mam).
 
holbritter said:
No, I don't think there will be riots. To be honest and blunt, it's because she is white. I don't believe the majority of races respond that way. Could be wrong, but I don't remember seeing white, Hispanic, or Asian rioting much. At least not reported.
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That's probably because they aren't subjected to as many unjustified shootings, unlawful stops, unlawful searches, and general police violence.





But hey, don't let me get in the way of people using a tragedy to soapbox about black people.
 
Mr Person said:
That's probably because they aren't subjected to as many unjustified shootings, unlawful stops, unlawful searches, and general police violence.





But hey, don't let me get in the way of people using a tragedy to soapbox about black people.
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But hey dont lets facts/stats get in your way of race baiting
 
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Josie said:
I thought the reason for protesting was outrage about the police shooting unarmed citizens. I guess it's only unarmed citizens of a certain skin color. :shrug:
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And somehow this surprises you? ... If we had a several hundred-year history of Australians as slaves, as lynch victims, and as being segregated in the US, there might have been some talk, op-eds even. In this case, there will be an inquiry into the tragedy, as there should be, and appropriate action taken, one assumes.
 
Mr Person said:
That's probably because they aren't subjected to as many unjustified shootings, unlawful stops, unlawful searches, and general police violence.





But hey, don't let me get in the way of people using a tragedy to soapbox about black people.
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:roll: yeah, ok.
 
Nickyjo said:
Only 50% of the country is white?
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50% of the people killed by police are white, but I think you knew that. Just trying to figure out your angle.
 
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