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Tangmo · Jul 5, 2017

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mike2810 said:
Wasn't lied to when I was 4. I don't let a few bad LEO set the tone for the rest of the LEO.
Interesting when I was 4 the public in general had much more respect for LEO, the govt, and helped neighbors. But that was in the 50's.
Times have changed.

Interesting you just ignored the point that blacks kill more blacks that does LEO's. But I expected that from you.

Almost all of it is in black and white....

https://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/

It is also the mortifying case that in recent years we've experienced a national police crime wave against black Americans most of which were unarmed. Gunned down in the parks, in their cars, on the streets, outside their homes.

One iron britches cop flying through the air tackled some unarmed black girls at a first day of summer unarmed pool party in a Texas suburb -- pulled his service firearm though he backed off using it seeming satisfied instead to sit on the frail 14 year old girl.

I'm a professional trained killer so youse boyz had better scatter and do it pronto.

"Ouch you're hurting me," says the cop.

Ninety-eight percent of police do the right thing most of the time. It's the pyscho ones that need to be identified by police departments before they identify themselves. So the biggest problem is the eternal blue wall of silence and complicity by the everyday cops themselves.

Renae · Jul 5, 2017

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Cigar said:
I don't play those games anymore, if you want to know, the facts are available to those who what to see them.

So you make a claim you cannot back up and demand others to go seek out your made up instances of police killing someone for following all directions politely. Got it.

Renae · Jul 5, 2017

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Tangmo said:
Almost all of it is in black and white....

https://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/

It is also the mortifying case that in recent years we've experienced a national police crime wave against black Americans most of which were unarmed. Gunned down in the parks, in their cars, on the streets, outside their homes.

One iron britches cop flying through the air tackled some unarmed black girls at a first day of summer unarmed pool party in a Texas suburb -- pulled his service firearm though he backed off using it seeming satisfied instead to sit on the frail 14 year old girl.

Ninety-eight percent of police do the right thing most of the time. It's the pyscho ones that need to be identified by police departments before they identify themselves. So the biggest problem is the eternal blue wall of silence and complicity by the everyday cops themselves.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/10/mckinney-texas-police-officer-casebolt

Bishkin said that Casebolt viewed the teenagers leaving the pool as potential assault suspects who were fleeing. She insisted that “he was not targeting minorities” and that he also detained a white female.

“With all that happened that day he allowed his emotions to get the better of him. Eric regrets that his conduct portrayed him and his department in a negative light,” said Bishkin. “He apologises to all who were offended … the prior suicide calls put him in an emotional place that he would have preferred not to be in.”

Your bull**** portrayal of the event was a power mad cop abusing his power and taking it out on some poor minority females.

Reality, the officer had been dealing with some pretty hard ****, the last two calls he dealt with were a man that had blown his head off in front of his family and a near suicide by a teen ager.

He resigned, he was found not guilty by a grand jury.

TheGoverness · Jul 5, 2017

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Renae said:
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/bla...ches-school-children-how-to-deal-with-police/

Seriously? You have a problem with teaching kids that "Hey, here's who the police are, and how to handle yourself around them?"

I'm just flabbergasted.

I agree. That is very counter-productive. Knowing how to behave during an encounter with the police is quite important.

FastPace · Jul 5, 2017

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cuban smokes said:
they should pass a bill that teaches police how to interact with the civilian public, without shooting the Hell outta everyone .........

I'm not anti-cop. Rather, I subscribe to the original Christian view, rare as it may be expressed today. What is that view? Simply, all people are sinners. Meaning being a Democrat, rap artist, cop, black person, woman, liberal, college student, priest, Muslim, or conservative white person does de facto mean you have not and do not ever do anything wrong. And that also means committing what Catholics refer to as "mortal sins."

I also do not believe this tall tale about the USA being the land of the free. I'm not Canadian but the Canadians do not view freedom as living in fear, locked behind doors, and worried a wrong motion, a wrong word, might get one gunned down to death by a cop.

This bill in my view--lends itself--to developing a docile population trained from young to be in fear of the armed troops of the two-party dictatorship.

When I was a kid at an overwhelmingly Black-American Catholic grade school, located in the central city, we would have cops come to our school to give us a talk maybe about once a year. The frequent question from us kids back then was, "Have you ever drawn your gun? Or "Have you ever shot anyone?"

The cops always found that a bit humorous and always responded the same. That response being more or less stated this way: "In my 20 years on the police force I have not once drawn my firearm from its holster.

Guess what? All us boy kids back then ran around outside playing with toy guns. :shock: The shock, the horror!

Kids did not get shot by cops back then. Of course, there was a lot less gun violence in the USA back then. In the 1970s gun violence as a big problem was mostly regulated to a to few handful of cities in the USA. Cities like Chicago and NYC. It was not like all over the place like it is now. So, in the vast majority of cities cops never even un-holstered their firearm in like 10, 20 years on the job. Now it's pretty normal to, probably within the first week, month, or year on the job.

But you can't tell this to the Millennials who have been lied to by serpents telling them, "Things have only gotten better in the USA." No they haven't. That's a flat out lie. Something have gotten better, somethings have gotten worse. Gun violence was lower in the 1960s and 1970s Milwaukee and there were waaaaaaaay more middle-class factory jobs that you could get even without a high school diploma. Now you're competing with Jesus (not the one that was crucified) for a job at Burger King. My black grandfather used to boast how he would get fired from a good paying factory job in Milwaukee, walk down the street that same day and get hired for another good paying factory job. When he worked at Pabst Brewery he was driving forklifts and they let him drink beer on the job. The lunch rooms had beer in the refrigerators. My neither of my grandfathers ever graduated grade school. But both made enough money--on jobs that would hire you with no skills because they needed so many people--that they could have 6 and 11 kids, a mortgage, and car.

FastPace · Jul 5, 2017

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Cops can overreact in levels of use of force. That can happen and does happen. The Tamir Rice case being one example. The kid was not given ample time to move from shock, freezing, and to digest the commands to disarm himself of the object in his hands.

But the more common and more daily and greatest threats young ethnic Black-Americans face is from other ethnic Black-Americans.

Back in the 1950s Black-American youth were regarded as the most well behaved youth in America. 360 degrees from now.

Motivational Speaker Gives "Disrespectful" Students A Reality Check

(as an aside and example of what he does, here is his talk to a college football team)

Tangmo · Jul 5, 2017

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Renae said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/10/mckinney-texas-police-officer-casebolt

Your bull**** portrayal of the event was a power mad cop abusing his power and taking it out on some poor minority females.

Reality, the officer had been dealing with some pretty hard ****, the last two calls he dealt with were a man that had blown his head off in front of his family and a near suicide by a teen ager.

He resigned, he was found not guilty by a grand jury.

It's a rare grand jury and prosecutor who sees a cop as a ham sandwich or a turkey salad.

The chief of police in McKinny TX offers no excuses nor does he make any accusations...

McKinney Police Chief Greg Conley said earlier that Casebolt’s actions were “indefensible.”

“As the video shows, he was out of control during the incident,” Conley said. “I do not condone the actions of those individuals who violated the rules of the community and showed disrespect to the security personnel on the scene and officers.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-ex-cop-city-for-5m/?utm_term=.1b31a869ae57

No one's life was in danger in any way until the berzeker cop pulled out his firearm. The cop targeted minority youths while ignoring white ones on the scene....

Brandon Brooks, a 15-year-old at the party, shot video of Casebolt throwing Becton to the ground. He told Buzzfeed News that the cop only targeted minority teenagers.

“Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic,” said Brooks, who is white. “(The cop) didn’t even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible.”

In the video, Casebolt pointed his weapon at some of the other teens.

“Y’all make me f--king run around here with 30 pounds of goddamn gear on in the sun, because you want to screw around out here,” Casebolt told a group of seated teens.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ils-body-slammed-pool-party-article-1.2250588

The family of the girl went to federal court and they are talking up to $5 million. The cop is a retired USN nco.

Renae · Jul 5, 2017

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Tangmo said:
It's a rare grand jury and prosecutor who sees a cop as a ham sandwich or a turkey salad.

The chief of police in McKinny TX offers no excuses nor does he make any accusations...

McKinney Police Chief Greg Conley said earlier that Casebolt’s actions were “indefensible.”

“As the video shows, he was out of control during the incident,” Conley said. “I do not condone the actions of those individuals who violated the rules of the community and showed disrespect to the security personnel on the scene and officers.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-ex-cop-city-for-5m/?utm_term=.1b31a869ae57

No one's life was in danger in any way until the berzeker cop pulled out his firearm. The cop targeted minority youths while ignoring white ones on the scene....

Brandon Brooks, a 15-year-old at the party, shot video of Casebolt throwing Becton to the ground. He told Buzzfeed News that the cop only targeted minority teenagers.

“Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic,” said Brooks, who is white. “(The cop) didn’t even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible.”

In the video, Casebolt pointed his weapon at some of the other teens.

“Y’all make me f--king run around here with 30 pounds of goddamn gear on in the sun, because you want to screw around out here,” Casebolt told a group of seated teens.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ils-body-slammed-pool-party-article-1.2250588

The family of the girl went to federal court and they are talking up to $5 million. The cop is a retired USN nco.

Police are human and in split seconds errors happen. Thay lawsuit is why we need tort reform.

Tangmo · Jul 6, 2017

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Let's start with police reform first and American Conservatifeudalists reforming themselves second.

A cop pulling out his gun to shoot a unarmed black guy standing there, sitting there or legging it with his back to the cop is unconstitutional. Yet all the cop has to say to walk free is that he wuz afraid the black guy was going to break the cop's manicured fingernails so the cop shot the guy....five times.

The country just went through a national police crime wave of race based killings by various police officers in departments throughout the land and during which unarmed black people were shot by police in an arbitrary and summary street justice. Some citizens were strangled to death on the sidewalk while others were simply sat on next to a pool.

The crime wave killings by police were extrajudicial and they were illegal. Police and prosecutors are sweethearts so grand juries almost always do as they are instructed and directed to do, i.e., nothing. The police blue wall of silence continues. Conservatives continue to add brick and mortar to the wall.

The cop in McKinny TX seemed to be in flashbacks to the 18th century America when there were slave patrols to capture escaped slaves and also to keep the slaves in line in the slave concentration camps at the plantations. The slave patrols formed the basis of the first municipal and county police departments.

The McKinny cop who'd quit the navy after nine years had to resign from the force due to his big splash but he got a door prize on the way out, i.e., no indictment or prosecution. Now the matter is in federal court.

Cigar · Jul 6, 2017

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:roll: All you have to do is throw chum in the water and watch them eat. :lamo

Fledermaus · Jul 6, 2017

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Tangmo said:
The country just went through a national police crime wave of race based killings by various police officers in departments throughout the land and during which unarmed black people were shot by police in an arbitrary and summary street justice. Some citizens were strangled to death on the sidewalk while others were simply sat on next to a pool.

The crime wave killings by police were extrajudicial and they were illegal.

Citation for this so called "crime wave"?

Tangmo said:
The McKinny cop who'd quit the navy after nine years had to resign from the force due to his big splash but he got a door prize on the way out, i.e., no indictment or prosecution. Now the matter is in federal court.

Crapping on veterans again?

Tangmo · Jul 6, 2017

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Fledermaus said:
Citation for this so called "crime wave"?

Crapping on veterans again?

Stalker.

Fledermaus · Jul 6, 2017

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Tangmo said:
Stalker.

So, no citation for your claim.

reinoe · Jul 6, 2017

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Renae said:
Police are human and in split seconds errors happen. Thay lawsuit is why we need tort reform.

But of course not police reform m I rite?

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Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic,” said Brooks, who is white. “(The cop) didn’t even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible.”

Renae · Jul 6, 2017

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reinoe said:
But of course not police reform m I rite?

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You're the type of person that rages on the internet against police but calls 911 when a leaf hits your door at night.

reinoe · Jul 6, 2017

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Renae said:
You're the type of person that rages on the internet against police but calls 911 when a leaf hits your door at night.

:roll:

Out of curiosity, how did you even come to that conclusion?

Renae · Jul 6, 2017

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reinoe said:
:roll:

Out of curiosity, how did you even come to that conclusion?

It's an educated guess.

PIPEWRENCH · Jul 6, 2017

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Renae said:
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/bla...ches-school-children-how-to-deal-with-police/

Seriously? You have a problem with teaching kids that "Hey, here's who the police are, and how to handle yourself around them?"

I'm just flabbergasted.

I think it is a great idea. How to conduct yourself when pulled over for a traffic violation or even a felony stop can save your life. I think the whole procedure should be taught from the traffic stop to the courtroom. There is so much misinformation about your rights and how to conduct yourself that this is no brainer. I have been on both sides of the fence not by choice and when guns are drawn one wrong move can be a death sentence.

I have been with too many of my friends that start the confrontation with the officer when it is pointless. You argue innocence or guilt in court not with the cop.
The other thing is a lot of police are bossy. They have learned over the years that taking charge right from the start generally avoids a lot of problems. However if you decide to take charge of the situation it will almost always end up bad for you.

If you want to have the upper hand in the situation dash cams are cheap today. I know people with several in their car along with GPS. You might be surprised how nice the police conduct themselves when on camera.

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