• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

The Fake President

Glowpun

Glowpun

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 30, 2012
Messages
2,236
Reaction score
537
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
So it appears the Russians did apparently help to tip the scale in favor of Trump. No small wonder why Trump has attempted to quash the FBI and other investigations. He then would be their beneficiary.

Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?

Why did the Russians want Trump to be president? Simple. Trump owes a lot of money to Russian banks is what I hear and has made him vulnerable.

He is an old man and is viewed as such-vulnerable. Just read and tweets and other behaviors.
 
A lot of people care about this. For those that don't I think there are basically two camps. One camp is extremely hesitant to take the word of our intelligence community for any number of reasons, and the other simply treats anything against Trump as a grand conspiracy. Russia wanted a president Trump because he was the candidate that they felt they could make money with. The last thing a petro-state like Russia needed was a climate change accepting, anti-Russian candidate like Hillary.
 
Glowpun said:
So it appears the Russians did apparently help to tip the scale in favor of Trump. No small wonder why Trump has attempted to quash the FBI and other investigations. He then would be their beneficiary.

Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?

Why did the Russians want Trump to be president? Simple. Trump owes a lot of money to Russian banks is what I hear and has made him vulnerable.

He is an old man and is viewed as such-vulnerable. Just read and tweets and other behaviors.
Click to expand...

I guess it's all a matter of perspective. In any case I don't believe it has anything to do with Trump's investment portfolio. :roll:

Clearly (at least IMO from the dearth of evidence showing otherwise) Trump was not involved in any collusion with the Russians.

Clearly the Russians would have preferred almost anyone to Hillary Clinton. Trump, being the alternate candidate was simply the one who benefited. It could as easily have been Rubio, Cruz, or any of the other early candidates had they been the eventual nominee.

Moreover, the primary impact of any Russian (or other source for WikiLeaks) activity was to present truthful information about Hillary's candidacy.

In fact, from some evidence thereby presented it seems clear that both the DNC and members of the Obama Administration (if not the then President himself) were actively colluding to insure she was the successful candidate.

People don't care for this and other clearly discernable reasons, which were all presented during the campaign.

They wanted drastic change, they wanted something done about immigration, they wanted something done about the ACA, they wanted someone who was not part of the political in-crowd, etc.

It was the truth of the leaks that damaged Hillary, but more so on the side of those who might have voted for her (read Bernie supporters) than those who weren't ever going to do so.

As for his being an old man? Which of the two candidates had the drive and energy to take their appeal directly to the people in the old-style whistle stop campaigning of past populist candidates?
 
Last edited:
So we are just giving up on links altogether now, huh?
 
I think Trump is as much in bed with the Russians as Bernie is responsible for the ball game shooting.
 
Since we are just throwing stuff out there.
 
Glowpun said:
So it appears the Russians did apparently help to tip the scale in favor of Trump. No small wonder why Trump has attempted to quash the FBI and other investigations. He then would be their beneficiary.

Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?

Why did the Russians want Trump to be president? Simple. Trump owes a lot of money to Russian banks is what I hear and has made him vulnerable.

He is an old man and is viewed as such-vulnerable. Just read and tweets and other behaviors.
Click to expand...

I heard that Elizabeth Warren is sleeping with an Islamic terrorist. Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?
 
Josie said:
I heard that Elizabeth Warren is sleeping with an Islamic terrorist. Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?
Click to expand...

Only the very ill-informed will fall for this trap. EW is a white, Christian female. A jihadist's value system will never allow him/her to such a relationship. They know how to keep their sex urges in check.
 
Josie said:
I heard that Elizabeth Warren is sleeping with an Islamic terrorist. Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?
Click to expand...

Yeah, but she is just doing that so she can infiltrate his ISIS camp and kill everyone with her Kung-fu. At least that is what I hear.
 
Glowpun said:
Only the very ill-informed will fall for this trap. EW is a white, Christian female. A jihadist's value system will never allow him/her to such a relationship. They know how to keep their sex urges in check.
Click to expand...

Right over your head.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yeah, but she is just doing that so she can infiltrate his ISIS camp and kill everyone with her Kung-fu. At least that is what I hear.
Click to expand...

Kung-fu? Don't you mean she'll kill them with her tomahawk?
 
Dumb.
 
Democrats complained when Bush won, now they are complaining when Trump won.

Talk about a bunch of sore losers. Word of advice, try campaigning in areas outside of Los Angeles. Morons.
 
Lovebug said:
I think Trump is as much in bed with the Russians as Bernie is responsible for the ball game shooting.
Click to expand...

Red herring...red herring...red herring...
 
Glowpun said:
So it appears the Russians did apparently help to tip the scale in favor of Trump. No small wonder why Trump has attempted to quash the FBI and other investigations. He then would be their beneficiary.

Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?

Why did the Russians want Trump to be president? Simple. Trump owes a lot of money to Russian banks is what I hear and has made him vulnerable.

He is an old man and is viewed as such-vulnerable. Just read and tweets and other behaviors.
Click to expand...

What makes you think your first sentence is correct?

BTW, a bit of advice: Don't believe everything you hear...especially if it comes from the Mainstream Media.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I guess it's all a matter of perspective. In any case I don't believe it has anything to do with Trump's investment portfolio. :roll:

Clearly (at least IMO from the dearth of evidence showing otherwise) Trump was not involved in any collusion with the Russians.

Clearly the Russians would have preferred almost anyone to Hillary Clinton. Trump, being the alternate candidate was simply the one who benefited. It could as easily have been Rubio, Cruz, or any of the other early candidates had they been the eventual nominee.

Moreover, the primary impact of any Russian (or other source for WikiLeaks) activity was to present truthful information about Hillary's candidacy....
Click to expand...


Thats just patently false. The Russians used social media to spread lies about Hillary and interfere in the election....


"...a number of false, misleading and fantastical political stories, such as an article saying Pope Francis had endorsed Donald Trump, which was shared by over 100,000 users. There were “vote online” memes that assured Democrats in Pennsylvania that they could cast their ballots from home and a widely shared news release claiming Hillary Clinton’s health disqualified her from serving as president.

Over the weekend, the No. 1 Google hit for the search “final election count” was an article from a little-known site claiming that Donald Trump had won the popular vote by 700,000 votes. (Clinton won the popular vote)...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...720d1f20071_story.html?utm_term=.1d3c9791b29d​


Trump tried to secretly remove sanctions against Russia. Why would he do that unless they had something on him....and/or...he had colluded with the Russians to help him win the election in exchange for lifting the sanctions?

 
Lovebug said:
I think Trump is as much in bed with the Russians as Bernie is responsible for the ball game shooting.
Click to expand...

Let's assume for a moment that that's true. Why not, then, just go ahead and have a thorough investigation, get it out of the way, and be done with it? And furthermore, why did Trump keep changing his story on why he fired Comey? Couldn't have had anything to do with that loyalty oath that Comey wouldn't take, would it?
 
Bucky said:
Democrats complained when Bush won, now they are complaining when Trump won.

Talk about a bunch of sore losers. Word of advice, try campaigning in areas outside of Los Angeles. Morons.
Click to expand...

We all lost when Bush and Trump won. Just think what would have Al Gore done with the booming Clinton surplus; put everybody on welfare?


I saw Trump on the DVR tonight, I wondered, "who is he talking to, what is he trying to say?" I saw him think of his base and what was needed to please them. I saw that this was his only concern as he posed and smiled for the various presence his rhetoric meaningless.

He's an actor and too bad his ideology is all ****** up. Works good for you if you're building your (financial) Kingdom, but such devotees have no idea in Hell how to rule so that three hundred million, six billion souls can all build their kingdoms fairly.

How about if we let God be responsible for the Russians wanting Trump. Russia would hope to ruin us with Trump and; (Trumpets) Ta Da,... he ruins us making us turn to Him. Or, Trump shines and Russia is Chagrined.

Trump ruins the Republican Party, and he is the epitome of their treatment of Obama.
 
Glowpun said:
So it appears the Russians did apparently help to tip the scale in favor of Trump. No small wonder why Trump has attempted to quash the FBI and other investigations. He then would be their beneficiary.

Why is it very few people seem to be aware of this? Or care?

Why did the Russians want Trump to be president? Simple. Trump owes a lot of money to Russian banks is what I hear and has made him vulnerable.

He is an old man and is viewed as such-vulnerable. Just read and tweets and other behaviors.
Click to expand...

Putin knows Trump is stupid. I'm sure that was the driving factor.
 
Glowpun said:
Only the very ill-informed will fall for this trap. EW is a white, Christian female. A jihadist's value system will never allow him/her to such a relationship. They know how to keep their sex urges in check.
Click to expand...

If you look up, you might just see the point sailing over your head. :roll:
 
Moot said:
Thats just patently false. The Russians used social media to spread lies about Hillary and interfere in the election....
Click to expand...

You know, I think you're right. I was totally gonna vote for Hitlery, then I like got on Facebook and stuff, and like, totally voted for Trump.

Nasdrovia!
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yeah, but she is just doing that so she can infiltrate his ISIS camp and kill everyone with her Kung-fu. At least that is what I hear.
Click to expand...

I thought she was going to scalp them with a cherokee tomahawk and do the war dance with the Great Spirit.
 
calamity said:
Putin knows Trump is stupid. I'm sure that was the driving factor.
Click to expand...

And don't forget Trump is greedy enough to steal money given to help children with cancer and Putin is the worlds richest man (and histories biggest thief). That drew Trump to Putin like a moth to a flame. Money laundering and shady deals are Trump's wet dream.
 
countryboy said:
You know, I think you're right. I was totally gonna vote for Hitlery, then I like got on Facebook and stuff, and like, totally voted for Trump.

Nasdrovia!
Click to expand...

Nyet....you were one of the first to spread the fake news on DP. You even provided the video and stuff that was first shown on Twitter.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom