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Muslim stabs cop at Mich airport

He used a flint knife? that still shows up as a dense material in an Xray.

I wonder if he was traveling and the koran just "kicked in" or if he just went there just to attack a cop.
 
akyron said:
He used a flint knife? that still shows up as a dense material in an Xray.

I wonder if he was traveling and the koran just "kicked in" or if he just went there just to attack a cop.
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He was upset DJT wants to prevent Islamic Terrorist from entering the country.
 
We have lots of Mosques in Michigan. Does that scare you?
 
TheGoverness said:
I bet it does. Muslims seem to scare him alot.
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Indeed, they do.

I work with Muslims everyday, and hearing Arabic commonly occurs in public. They are normal people and actually more likely to attain education and own business. They are an economic boon. They are a lot of things, that the right will never tell you, and they are not a lot of things, that the right will tell you they are.
 
Winston said:
Indeed, they do.

I work with Muslims everyday, and hearing Arabic commonly occurs in public. They are normal people and actually more likely to attain education and own business. They are an economic boon. They are a lot of things, that the right will never tell you, and they are not a lot of things, that the right will tell you they are.
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You left this part out

And the commit 99% of the terror acts last 20 years
 
Winston said:
Indeed, they do.

I work with Muslims everyday, and hearing Arabic commonly occurs in public. They are normal people and actually more likely to attain education and own business. They are an economic boon. They are a lot of things, that the right will never tell you, and they are not a lot of things, that the right will tell you they are.
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But yet they are still the #1 source of terrors attacks...
 
volsrock said:
You left this part out

And the commit 99% of the terror acts last 20 years
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You are more likely to die from being crushed by heavy furniture in your own home than be killed by any form of terrorism.
 
volsrock said:
You left this part out

And the commit 99% of the terror acts last 20 years
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Are you serious? Do you actually believe this? If so please adjust your tin foil hat
 
Winston said:
Indeed, they do.

I work with Muslims everyday, and hearing Arabic commonly occurs in public. They are normal people and actually more likely to attain education and own business. They are an economic boon. They are a lot of things, that the right will never tell you, and they are not a lot of things, that the right will tell you they are.
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I live in a city that has a large Muslim population, and some dense Muslim pockets.

You are right in general with this.

But that still does not detract from the fact that we have a Muslim terrorist problem, both domestic and abroad.

The radicals and terrorists are a small fraction, but they are still present. Assimilation seems to me to be the solution, as it always is. But assimilation comes with a cost. And what do we do when interpretation of the Koran conflicts with the Constitution? To be American demands an oath to uphold the Constitution. And I'm seeing instances where some practice of Islam here in the states seems to conflict. In womens' freedom, for instance.

Much of America is fearful, and I can't blame them. But unfortunately, freedom, liberty, and assimilation have their costs.

What really exasperates the situation though, is it's politicization. And Trump's doing his damn best to stoke those fears!
 
None of the UK media identify the attacker's religious beliefs, Only that the attack is being treated as "possible terrorism". Given that it happened landside, that could ba anyone.
 
Chomsky said:
I live in a city that has a large Muslim population, and some dense Muslim pockets.

You are right in general with this.

But that still does not detract from the fact that we have a Muslim terrorist problem, both domestic and abroad.

The radicals and terrorists are a small fraction, but they are still present. Assimilation seems to me to be the solution, as it always is. But assimilation comes with a cost. And what do we do when interpretation of the Koran conflicts with the Constitution? To be American demands an oath to uphold the Constitution. And I'm seeing instances where some practice of Islam here in the states seems to conflict. In womens' freedom, for instance.

Much of America is fearful, and I can't blame them. But unfortunately, freedom, liberty, and assimilation have their costs.

What really exasperates the situation though, is it's politicization. And Trump's doing his damn best to stoke those fears!
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Imagine what it was like for other people a few decades ago ...
 
Cigar said:
Imagine what it was like for other people a few decades ago ...
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That's true.

JFK, the first Roman Catholic President, during his presidential campaign had to publicly swear his allegiance to the Constitution repudiating the Holy See as his personal final arbitrator. Otherwise, in the razor-thin election he likely would not have prevailed.

I already agree assimilation is the answer, but it takes strong efforts by the newcomers too.
 
Renae said:
He was upset DJT wants to prevent Islamic Terrorist from entering the country.
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And who among us cannot empathize with him? Just thinking of how yucky and invalidated that horrible Trump's attempted Muslim ban must have made this man feel, I doubt I'll be able to sleep tonight. I fully understand how the owie this must have given his inner child could have made him act out this way.
 
matchlight said:
And who among us cannot empathize with him? Just thinking of how yucky and invalidated that horrible Trump's attempted Muslim ban must have made this man feel, I doubt I'll be able to sleep tonight. I fully understand how the owie this must have given his inner child could have made him act out this way.
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So you admit it?
 
Manc Skipper said:
None of the UK media identify the attacker's religious beliefs, Only that the attack is being treated as "possible terrorism". Given that it happened landside, that could ba anyone.
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It could be terrorism, even if contemporaneously rage inspired. Or would that then be 'Hate Crime'?

Anyway, the Detroit newstation's byline read,

"Canadian born suspect shouted "Allahu Akbar"".

Could be a nut, or could be legit. I'm leaning to 'legit', based upon nothing more than gut feeling.
 
Chomsky said:
I live in a city that has a large Muslim population, and some dense Muslim pockets.

You are right in general with this.

But that still does not detract from the fact that we have a Muslim terrorist problem, both domestic and abroad.

The radicals and terrorists are a small fraction, but they are still present. Assimilation seems to me to be the solution, as it always is. But assimilation comes with a cost. And what do we do when interpretation of the Koran conflicts with the Constitution? To be American demands an oath to uphold the Constitution. And I'm seeing instances where some practice of Islam here in the states seems to conflict. In womens' freedom, for instance.

Much of America is fearful, and I can't blame them. But unfortunately, freedom, liberty, and assimilation have their costs.

What really exasperates the situation though, is it's politicization. And Trump's doing his damn best to stoke those fears!
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Egalitarianism is an American value, that Muslim men have to get used to. I really don't recommend American society for devout Muslims or.. devout Christians for that matter. Lives can be led in American society while keeping with a strict piety, but, devout Christians and Muslims alike, have to accept that in America we are a secular democracy, that prizes people's freedom not to worship a religion and therefore be unconstrained by the boundaries of sin. Christians and Muslims should be prepared to see some ****.. outside of the church and mosque. Like transgenderism, gay marriage, drinking, smoking, screwing, etc.

Anyway, I live in a city with a large Muslim population too. They migrated west from Dearborn, MI.. which is the Muslim capital of the United States. They are good people. Threads like these are hysterical in nature, and absent of real world experience. Is terrorism a problem? Yes. Has the right proposed any useful, workable solutions to terrorism, absolutely not. Did you know that the U.S. led coalition killed more civilians in March than ISIS? In my view, we need to pull out of the Middle East, avoid civilian casualties at all costs, and flood the Middle East with humanitarian aide. Especially in Yemen. Right now, we are arming SA, and allowing them to commit war crimes in Yemen. Without going down the road of the geopolitics of the Middle East, I'd like to suggest that in order to stop terrorism, first we need to address the humanitarian crisis in Yemen. Give food and medicine to Yemen, not arm the ones bombing fishing villages with more bombs, and then turn around and tell the Middle East we are there to stop terrorism. From their point of view, America is the terrorist. And the humanitarian crisis in Yemen is worse than in Syria right now. But, no one talks about that.

Also, worth noting that there was a suicide bomb explosion in Kabul, that claimed the lives of over 150 mostly Afghani people, during the time of the London Bridge Attack. How many hashtags and messages of support or condemnation did we see related to the London Bridge Attack, that while still devastating in its own right, is of a smaller impact than the Kabul terror attack, which has been called the worst terror attack in 15 years. Americans can't pretend we give a **** about terrorism if we throw up hashtags for London while Kabul is getting blown to bits. Long story short, Islamic terrorism is a growing problem that America had no small hand in fomenting. And by all indications America has learned nothing from the last 16 years.
 
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Winston said:
Egalitarianism is an American value, that Muslim men have to get used to.
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That belief system is foolish and dangerous. Not all people are equal. That's just a scientific fact that people that believe in the theory have to get over.
 
Henrin said:
That belief system is foolish and dangerous. Not all people are equal. That's just a scientific fact that people that believe in the theory have to get over.
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Equal opportunity for all, trying to level the playing field as much as possible for all, having everyone equal before the eyes of the law- these are age-old American values- or have been traditionally. If Trump and the rightists get their way, of course, this will change soon.
 
ataraxia said:
Equal opportunity for all, trying to level the playing field as much as possible for all, having everyone equal before the eyes of the law- these are age-old American values- or have been traditionally. If Trump and the rightists get their way, of course, this will change soon.
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The belief that all people are equal is factually false. You can treat people equally under law without believing in factually false nonsense.
 
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