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Henrin said:
The belief that all people are equal is factually false. You can treat people equally under law without believing in factually false nonsense.
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So who has argued otherwise?
 
ataraxia said:
So who has argued otherwise?
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Some interpretations of the theory do. Anyway, lets have some fun with the just the rights aspect of the argument. Do you think the rights between men and women can be equal? Is that goal actually possible? The reason I bring that up is because the situation of men and women are different, which nessarcily calls for different right approaches.
 
Henrin said:
Some interpretations of the theory do. Anyway, lets have some fun with the just the rights aspect of the argument. Do you think the rights between men and women can be equal? Is that goal actually possible?
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I knew you wanted to make this about a gender debate, what's your hangup with this issue?
 
Winston said:
I knew you wanted to make this about a gender debate, what's your hangup with this issue?
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I could make it about other groups if you want, but using the debate between the sexes seemed like the easiest way to make my point. The point is that even if you go with limiting the argument to just rights the theory still works outside of how the world really is. My hang up with the theory is that it's made up gibberish based on nothing. Even the things it pretends exist which factually don't can't become a reality.
 
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10 years ago, France had terrorist attacks by Muslims...but they were infrequent. Today...its a regular occurrence.

Mo Muslims...mo problems.

But its not ALL Muslims.
 
volsrock said:
You left this part out

And the commit 99% of the terror acts last 20 years
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We're getting attacked by Islamic extremists because of our actions in the Middle East. We need to pull out our troops and let them sort it out.
 
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PoS said:
We're getting attacked by Islamic extremists because of our actions in the Middle East. We need to pull out our troops and let them sort it out.
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Geeee zus......

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Are the Philippines being attacked by Islamic extremists because for their actions in the middle east? Is Bali? Mali? Hell...are all the middle eastern countries that are regularly experiencing terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists also being punished for their actions in the middle east/ How about Belgium? Germany? France? Algeria? Somalia? Australia (****en Australia mate...)? Nigeria? Cameroon? Getting the picture? Cuz...I just mentioned a handful of the terrorist attacks by Muslim fundamentalists in the last few months alone.
 
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calamity said:
So you admit it?
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No, I don't care one way or another. The assertion that President Trump's executive order barring the admission of aliens from six specified nations is a "Muslim ban" is the sort of witless, anti-American propaganda collectivists have been concocting for decades. It is meant to gull the gullible, especially the ones who already resent this country. No one who had thought for even a moment about the order could believe that by affecting only six or seven nations--which were originally designated by President Obama--it meant to exclude all Muslim aliens from entering U.S. territory.

But even if it had excluded every Muslim alien on earth, and been designed to do just that, so what? As I have discussed in detail in quite a few threads here, the Supreme Court's decisions make very clear that Congress' power to exclude aliens, for whatever reason, is plenary and not to be questioned by courts. See, for example, Justice Frankfurter's reiteration of this principle in his concurrence in Harisiades v. Shaughnessy, which I have quoted here several times, and which the Court quoted with approval in Fiallo v. Bell. It is also clear that Congress may delegate this power to the President, as it has done.
 
faithful_servant said:
But yet they are still the #1 source of terrors attacks...
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Clearly we need to keep partnering with folks like Osama, the Taliban, and ISIS as we continue to arm the Wahabist Saudis. And occupy their lands of course.
 
volsrock said:
Are u saying they HAVE NOT committed 99%
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Yep,

"For those five years, the researchers found, Muslims carried out only 11 out of the 89 attacks, yet those attacks received 44 percent of the media coverage. (Meanwhile, 18 attacks actually*targeted*Muslims in America. The Boston marathon bombing generated 474 news reports, amounting to 20 percent of the media terrorism coverage during the period analyzed. Overall, the authors*report, "The average attack with a Muslim perpetrator is covered in 90.8 articles. Attacks with a Muslim, foreign-born perpetrator are covered in 192.8 articles on average. Compare this with other attacks, which received an average of 18.1 articles."

https://www.google.com/amp/reason.c.../do-muslims-commit-most-us-terrorist-atta/amp

Not in the US

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volsrock said:
Report: 99% of Suicide Attacks in 2015 Were Carried Out by Muslims - Breitbart


450 of 452 suicide attacks in 2015 were by Muslim extremists, study shows

450 of 452 suicide attacks in 2015 were by Muslim extremists, study shows | The Times of Israel




Blog: NYT: Muslims are 25 times more likely to commit terrorist attacks
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So are we going to ignore all the Domestic terrorism that happens on our streets in the form of gang violence? or does that form of terrorism not count unless its to bash the left
 
Henrin said:
Some interpretations of the theory do. Anyway, lets have some fun with the just the rights aspect of the argument. Do you think the rights between men and women can be equal? Is that goal actually possible? The reason I bring that up is because the situation of men and women are different, which nessarcily calls for different right approaches.
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True. But I would lean more towards leaving the opportunities open and see what happens. From what I understand, opening up front line positions for women in battle, for example, has actually been a pleasant surprise to military commanders- they have done much better in terms of mental, physical, and emotional toughness and endurance than anyone thought. Leave the opportunities open. I'm OK with that.
 
Chillfolks said:
So are we going to ignore all the Domestic terrorism that happens on our streets in the form of gang violence? or does that form of terrorism not count unless its to bash the left
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So u got showed to be wrong so u put a spin on:lamo

we are not talking about gangs
 
Winston said:
You are more likely to die from being crushed by heavy furniture in your own home than be killed by any form of terrorism.
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Time to ban all furniture, then! ;)
 
volsrock said:
And they commit 99% of the terror acts last 20 years
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https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257526.htm

Towards the bottom it discusses perpetrators.

I will argue that the facts show 99% of terrorist attacks are not Muslim.

1. Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the United States:*According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims. This means that an American terrorist suspect is over nine times more likely to be a non-Muslim than a Muslim. According to this same report, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism in the United States than Islamic, yet when was the last time we heard about the threat of Jewish terrorism in the media? For the same exact reasons that we cannot blame the entire religion of Judaism or Christianity for the violent actions of those carrying out crimes under the names of these religions, we have absolutely no justifiable grounds to blame Muslims for terrorism.

2. Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in Europe:*There have been over one thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the past five years. Take a guess at what percent of those terrorists were Muslim. Wrong, now guess again.*It’s less than 2%.

3. Even if all terrorist attacks were carried out by Muslims, you still could not associate terrorism with Islam:*There have been 140,000 terror attacks committed worldwide*since 1970. Even if Muslims carried out all of these attacks (which is an absurd assumption given the fact mentioned in my first point), those terrorists would represent less than 0.00009 percent of all Muslims. To put things into perspective, this means that you are more likely to be*struck by lightening*in your lifetime than a Muslim is likely to commit a terrorist attack during that same timespan.

4. If all Muslims are terrorists, then all Muslims are peacemakers:*The same statistical assumptions being used to falsely portray Muslims as violent people can be used more accurately to portray Muslims as peaceful people. If all Muslims are terrorists because a single digit percentage of terrorists happen to be Muslim, then all Muslims are peacemakers because*5 out of the past 12*Nobel Peace Prize winners (42 percent) have been Muslims.

5. If you are scared of Muslims then you should also be scared of household furniture and toddlers:*A study carried out by the University of North Carolina showed that*less than 0.0002%*of Americans killed since 9/11 were killed by Muslims. (Ironically, this study was done in Chapel Hill: the same place where a Caucasian non-Muslim killed three innocent Muslims as the mainstream media brushed this terrorist attack off as a*parking dispute)

Muslims Are Not Terrorists: A Factual Look at Terrorism and Islam

By Omar Alnatour



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ataraxia said:
True. But I would lean more towards leaving the opportunities open and see what happens. From what I understand, opening up front line positions for women in battle, for example, has actually been a pleasant surprise to military commanders- they have done much better in terms of mental, physical, and emotional toughness and endurance than anyone thought. Leave the opportunities open. I'm OK with that.
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I was not talking about the opportunities part of the theory , but of the rights part of the theory. Men can not be treated the same as women in terms of parental rights because how they become parents is biologically different. This leads to certain situations where the state is forced into a position where they have to come with different guidelines for both sexes. The fact is the theory tries to go from point A to point B without realizing that B is impossible to reach.
 
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