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Never Trust The Mainstream Media

LowDown

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As I've often said, all you have to do is listen to the tapes of a White House press conference and then read the stories the media writes about it to dispel any trust you might have had in their accuracy and reliability. They lie like a bunch of rugs.

Andrew Ferguson writes:

The meeting did sound truly appalling, utterly icky. But then I started to think … wait a minute. If the story was that every cabinet member was puckering up for Trump in public, why did the CNN reporter illustrate the point with a quote from Priebus, the chief of staff, who’s not a cabinet member? And I thought some more. Most of these cabinet secretaries are pretty self-possessed people, proud of their achievements in life, and cravenly kissing up to a boss, even when he’s president of the United States, doesn’t fit the profile.

And so I did what I, as a proud consumer of the mainstream liberal press, am not supposed to do. I second-guessed the mainstream liberal press. I watched the video of the cabinet meeting, all twenty-damn-five minutes of it, and I discovered that every story I had read or heard or seen that morning about the cabinet meeting was, as a whole, wrong or misleading, and in many particulars, just wrong.
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And here's the video of the cabinet meeting if you'd like to see for yourself.
 
LowDown said:
As I've often said, all you have to do is listen to the tapes of a White House press conference and then read the stories the media writes about it to dispel any trust you might have had in their accuracy and reliability. They lie like a bunch of rugs.

Andrew Ferguson writes:



And here's the video of the cabinet meeting if you'd like to see for yourself.
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What did they lie about?
 
riiiight

Dude? They were being absurdly obsequious. Cabinet members don't normally spend twenty minutes lavishing praise on a sitting President; usually they do a few quick comments for the press, then go into closed session.

Priebus was the most extreme, but wasn't alone.

Pence: “It is the greatest privilege of my life to serve as the vice president to a president who is keeping his word to the American people."

Mnuchin: “It’s been a great honor traveling with you around the country for the past year, and an even greater honor to be serving you on your Cabinet . . .”

Lighthizer: “I apologize for being late for work. For about four months, I got bogged down in that swamp you’ve been trying to drain.”

Chao: “Thank you for coming over to the Department of Transportation. Hundreds and hundreds of people were so thrilled to hang out, watching the whole ceremony. I want to thank you for getting this country moving again, and also working again.”

Price: “What an incredible honor it is to lead the Department of Health and Human Services at this pivotal time under your leadership. I can’t thank you enough for the privilege that you’ve given me, and the leadership you’ve shown.”

Mulvaney: “At your direction, we were able to also focus on the forgotten men and women who are paying taxes, so I appreciate your support on pulling that budget together.”

Let me show you where Trump got his idea about how the Presidency works:

 
Eh? what exactly is the OP complaining about? What did the MSM do wrong this time?

To me it is more like... never trust anyone who says never trust the MSM, as they are usually way off.
 
akyron said:
Reality. They DID however tell the truth about their own feelings and vitriol.

Its not uncommon.
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You are being just as vague as the OP. What in this instance did they lie about? Because all I saw was a bunch of grown men praising a President, I've never actually seen that happen in a cabinet meeting before and it was weird.
 
LowDown said:
As I've often said, all you have to do is listen to the tapes of a White House press conference and then read the stories the media writes about it to dispel any trust you might have had in their accuracy and reliability. They lie like a bunch of rugs.

Andrew Ferguson writes:



And here's the video of the cabinet meeting if you'd like to see for yourself.
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Yep, it was a total mischaracterization of what actually occurred.

Reagan once said "trust but verify". I think in light of what has been happening in the media, one has to verify first if at all possible before believing one word written in the NYT or WaPo and a lot of talking heads on TV.

YOu know the media likes to put up any poll that really looks bad for Trump even though another poll on the same day shows 50% approval. But truth be told, Trump's poll numbers are far more better than Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell and Ryan. And they are a heck of a lot better than what the country gives the media.
 
vesper said:
Yep, it was a total mischaracterization of what actually occurred.
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And which articles actually mischaracterized it? Be specific.
 
vesper said:
Yep, it was a total mischaracterization of what actually occurred.

Reagan once said "trust but verify". I think in light of what has been happening in the media, one has to verify first if at all possible before believing one word written in the NYT or WaPo and a lot of talking heads on TV.

YOu know the media likes to put up any poll that really looks bad for Trump even though another poll on the same day shows 50% approval. But truth be told, Trump's poll numbers are far more better than Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell and Ryan. And they are a heck of a lot better than what the country gives the media.
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What actually occurred? The only thing potentially missing from MSM reports is that the cabinet meeting was the first one which most of them reported that anyway. I'm missing the point here.
 
Don't Trust Mainstream News!
Trust Right Wing Hack News!

I can't tell if you are just a marketer for right wing media or you think you are here to debate something.
 
Mach said:
Don't Trust Mainstream News!
Trust Right Wing Hack News!

I can't tell if you are just a marketer for right wing media or you think you are here to debate something.
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Considering the lack of responses from those claiming that you shouldn't trust and not really addressing why, I don't think they are here to debate. Just trust them, they are the ones who actually know what they are talking about. Not the actual professionals.
 
The first priority of the media is selling, the second is providing an informative and entertaining story about events.

Sometimes accuracy takes a back seat being first. This IMO is increasing with our demand of speed in everything.

People will trust the sources that offer a biased opinion slanted in their direction.

I think it's a good idea to be suspect of all sources to a degree without paroind conspiracy theories extremes.
 
We buy into everything the corporate state PR machine spits out when manufacturing consent for war.
 
LowDown said:
As I've often said, all you have to do is listen to the tapes of a White House press conference and then read the stories the media writes about it to dispel any trust you might have had in their accuracy and reliability. They lie like a bunch of rugs.

Andrew Ferguson writes:



And here's the video of the cabinet meeting if you'd like to see for yourself.
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I watched the whole thing and I came to the conclusion that it was:

1. The first opportunity the President has had to sit down with the entire cabinet.

2. An opportunity for the cabinet members to meet all the others as some had no doubt not met personally and also a chance to introduce them as a group to the public at large. And I don't know how any patriot could not have failed to be impressed.

3. An opportunity for each cabinet member to give a short synopsis of what the agenda is from their assigned perspective.

They did that. And if in the process they expressed it as an honor to serve and thanked the President for the opportunity to do that, what in the hell is wrong with that? My sense was that each one has the vision and is in it to make it happen. Nobody gushed over the President but what niceties were expressed are characterized as 'sick' by the media people quoted in the news story?

I think the media is sick. I wish somebody would put it out of its misery so honest reporters and editors and commentators will be in charge again.

Disclaimer: No, I am not suggesting any violence against any media person. I am suggesting that most of them don't deserve to keep their jobs in that profession.
 
LowDown said:
As I've often said, all you have to do is listen to the tapes of a White House press conference and then read the stories the media writes about it to dispel any trust you might have had in their accuracy and reliability. They lie like a bunch of rugs.

Andrew Ferguson writes:



And here's the video of the cabinet meeting if you'd like to see for yourself.
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It's good to hear that JFK is actually still alive
 
Mach said:
Don't Trust Mainstream News!
Trust Right Wing Hack News!

I can't tell if you are just a marketer for right wing media or you think you are here to debate something.
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Calm down. Follow Reagan's admonition: "Trust, but vilify."
 
AlbqOwl said:
I watched the whole thing and I came to the conclusion that it was:

1. The first opportunity the President has had to sit down with the entire cabinet.
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OK, and...?


2. An opportunity for the cabinet members to meet all the others as some had no doubt not met personally and also a chance to introduce them as a group to the public at large. And I don't know how any patriot could not have failed to be impressed.
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I'm a patriot, and the sucking up made me gag.

Plus, the objection wasn't "introducing themselves." It was kissing Trump's ass, in a few cases with outright lies.


if in the process they expressed it as an honor to serve and thanked the President for the opportunity to do that, what in the hell is wrong with that?
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The problem is that it basically makes it seem like Trump told his people to puff his ego for half an hour.

We should note that again, normally the process is for the press to be in the room for a photo op, then they leave and the cabinet gets to business. Somehow, I doubt you'd be thrilled if Obama's cabinet acted like this.


I think the media is sick.
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:roll:

Why, because they notice that Trump is eroding the norms that hold him accountable to the public?


Disclaimer: No, I am not suggesting any violence against any media person.
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Odd, kinda sounds exactly like that's what you're suggesting. Next time, you can just say "they should be fired."

Of course, it seems that the reason they should be fired is because they dare to be critical of a politician you like. That, to me, is what sounds a bit sick...
 
Gotta love when he's talking about his tax reform bill that "may be the biggest single tax cut in American history" and "simplifies" the tax system, (and in a hushed tone, adds, "and other things" lol), he says, "Believe me, we will take care of the people that have to be taken care of. That's the first step. But we will be taking care of, the people that have to be taken care of".

Who are you going to take care of? And how is it that you're taking care of them? Forgive me if I feel like he's saying he will take care of his buddies that helped him get where he is, while trying to create a plausible façade that he was saying they would take care of the poor people of the country.
 
Yes, it seems the original post does not quite fit the thread title.

I do trust the mainstream media to deliver to me the most current and most important propaganda for any particular time period, hour, day or week. Or even longer.

For example, while the mainstream media said not a word on the 50th anniversary of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, that same media duly reminded me that I should be sad on the first anniversary of the Dog & Pony Show that was the Pulse incident/training exercise.
 
Visbek said:
OK, and...?



I'm a patriot, and the sucking up made me gag.

Plus, the objection wasn't "introducing themselves." It was kissing Trump's ass, in a few cases with outright lies.



The problem is that it basically makes it seem like Trump told his people to puff his ego for half an hour.

We should note that again, normally the process is for the press to be in the room for a photo op, then they leave and the cabinet gets to business. Somehow, I doubt you'd be thrilled if Obama's cabinet acted like this.



:roll:

Why, because they notice that Trump is eroding the norms that hold him accountable to the public?



Odd, kinda sounds exactly like that's what you're suggesting. Next time, you can just say "they should be fired."

Of course, it seems that the reason they should be fired is because they dare to be critical of a politician you like. That, to me, is what sounds a bit sick...
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Well I'll say this for you: you have the assigned talking and attack points well memorized. Have a pleasant evening.

Oh, and I can only take responsibility for what I say. I can't be responsible for what you think or understand.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well I'll say this for you: you have the assigned talking and attack points well memorized. Have a pleasant evening.

Oh, and I can only take responsibility for what I say. I can't be responsible for what you think or understand.
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So basically, you have no actual response, and are unable to defend your views. Noted.
 
I would distrust the mainstream media if the alternative were not appalling.
 
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