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*Foreward: It is highly encouraged that you ignore the inevitable trolling related to Clinton, Obama, demands for evidence that Trump committed crimes, or any variants of these themes in order to deflect from the topic of the thread. Trump supporters are going to troll this thread hard. That's just a fact of nature. Deal with it by ignoring it. If you are participating in this thread, it is expected that you will make hard predictions.*
The predictions in this thread are broken into four parts, and are predicated on the Special Counsel not being fired:
1) Outcome of Russian collusion investigations
2) Outcome of any financial investigations
3) Outcome of obstruction of justice investigation
4) Outcome of Congressional 2018 elections
5) Outcome of Congressional and Presidential 2020 elections.
6) Outcome of 2024 elections.
My predictions:
1) There will be no direct evidence of collusion between Russia and Trump himself, but people in his administration and campaign will go to prison. In short, Trump will have happily benefitted from Russian interference, but due to the very public nature of the interference no effort was ever actually required on Trump's part to facilitate it. Due to the sheer number of people who had contact with Russian intelligence officials and lied about it, it's reasonable to conclude they will be going to prison.
2) This is a long way out, but there will be a number of money laundering and tax evasion issues that will come out as a result of the Special Counsel's investigations. Jared Kushner will face severe penalties and even possibly prison time. The Republican congress will be "troubled" by any findings related to Trump himself and will ultimately ignore them.
3) The Special counsel will find that Trump committed obstruction of justice. The Republican congress will find this "very concerning," and will then reconvene to eliminate food stamps.
4) Democrats will easily win control of the House, lose a few seats in the Senate, but Republicans will not gain a filibuster-proof majority. The House investigations of Trump will finally gain real teeth, and massive violations of the emoluments clause will be uncovered, as well as demanding financial records that will uncover more malfeasance. They'll start multiple impeachment proceedings that will all consistently fail in the Senate.
5) Democrats will easily gain control of the White House, Senate and House. Single Payer will be voted in, environmental regulations reenacted, tax cuts reversed, and the long road to repairing relations with the international community will begin.
6) Obviously, the further out the prediction, the fuzzier it gets. One thing can be certain, though: if Republicans manage to ruin the economy, it will be up to Democrats to repair it. This is never a fast or easy process, and the public will blame the Democrats for not fixing it fast enough and dramatically enough, and they will likely give government back to the Republicans. Conversely, if Democrats are not handed a sufficiently awful economy, that may not necessarily matter anyway, as evidenced by the fact that Republicans gained control after both the Clinton and Obama administrations when the economies were either very strong or improving quickly.
The predictions in this thread are broken into four parts, and are predicated on the Special Counsel not being fired:
1) Outcome of Russian collusion investigations
2) Outcome of any financial investigations
3) Outcome of obstruction of justice investigation
4) Outcome of Congressional 2018 elections
5) Outcome of Congressional and Presidential 2020 elections.
6) Outcome of 2024 elections.
My predictions:
1) There will be no direct evidence of collusion between Russia and Trump himself, but people in his administration and campaign will go to prison. In short, Trump will have happily benefitted from Russian interference, but due to the very public nature of the interference no effort was ever actually required on Trump's part to facilitate it. Due to the sheer number of people who had contact with Russian intelligence officials and lied about it, it's reasonable to conclude they will be going to prison.
2) This is a long way out, but there will be a number of money laundering and tax evasion issues that will come out as a result of the Special Counsel's investigations. Jared Kushner will face severe penalties and even possibly prison time. The Republican congress will be "troubled" by any findings related to Trump himself and will ultimately ignore them.
3) The Special counsel will find that Trump committed obstruction of justice. The Republican congress will find this "very concerning," and will then reconvene to eliminate food stamps.
4) Democrats will easily win control of the House, lose a few seats in the Senate, but Republicans will not gain a filibuster-proof majority. The House investigations of Trump will finally gain real teeth, and massive violations of the emoluments clause will be uncovered, as well as demanding financial records that will uncover more malfeasance. They'll start multiple impeachment proceedings that will all consistently fail in the Senate.
5) Democrats will easily gain control of the White House, Senate and House. Single Payer will be voted in, environmental regulations reenacted, tax cuts reversed, and the long road to repairing relations with the international community will begin.
6) Obviously, the further out the prediction, the fuzzier it gets. One thing can be certain, though: if Republicans manage to ruin the economy, it will be up to Democrats to repair it. This is never a fast or easy process, and the public will blame the Democrats for not fixing it fast enough and dramatically enough, and they will likely give government back to the Republicans. Conversely, if Democrats are not handed a sufficiently awful economy, that may not necessarily matter anyway, as evidenced by the fact that Republicans gained control after both the Clinton and Obama administrations when the economies were either very strong or improving quickly.