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Trump sends message through Mnuchin, he won't bock congress if they cut SS.

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The exchange occurred more than an hour into the sleepy hearing. Utah Republican Chris Stewart made a plea for cutting mandatory spending, including Social Security. Mnuchin replied, “The president has made clear that on Social Security, that’s not something he’s addressing now, but if Congress wants to review that, obviously that’s within your prerogative.” Mnuchin was not pledging to cut Social Security. Instead, he was deferring the choice to Congress.

To understand the importance of this seemingly noncommittal statement, consider an exchange that took place earlier in the same hearing. Four months before, Mnuchin had pledged that the administration would not give rich people a tax cut. “Any reductions we have in upper-income taxes will be offset by less deductions so that there will be no absolute tax cut for the upper class,” he promised. But in the intervening months, Mnuchin and the administration have slowly wriggled away from that promise. At yesterday’s hearing, Democrat Matt Cartwright tried to hold Mnuchin to it. “If Congress passes a tax plan that does not adhere to the so-called Mnuchin rule,” he asked, “will President Trump veto it?” Mnuchin replied, “No, he will not.”
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Trump?s Promise Not to Touch Social Security Is Gone Now

He won't do it himself, but he also won't stop anyone else from doing it. Way to have Seniors backs Donnie. Said he wouldn't cut medicaid, changed his mind. Supporters didn't care. But now he's made it known he won't social security cuts, in a sane world that would piss off his base. Many of whom are on social security or plan to be one day in the near future.

So let's here the excuses this time, I've got my money on "he wouldn't be cutting it, he never promised to block congress if they try" and "fake news, show me where anyones planning on cutting social security" leading the charge.

To pre emptively rebut both those points, and save me the trouble later. Doesn't matter if its in the works, or will never happen. He's showing a willingness to lay down on campaign promises, and if it did come up he would let it happen. Whether he cuts it or someone else does and he allows it. The result will be the same. When he said no cuts to medicaid, medicare, and social security, its understood that is a promise to protect those instituions.
 
You can relax. No one is going to cut social security. And your post is evidence as to why--a vague, noncommittal statement on the subject is enough to send the left into a sky-is-falling panic.
 
Fletch said:
You can relax. No one is going to cut social security. And your post is evidence as to why--a vague, noncommittal statement on the subject is enough to send the left into a sky-is-falling panic.
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We agree on this one.

If Trump thinks that he can get around his campaign pledge and have Republicans in Congress do the dirty work of cutting SS - he is badly mistaken and anyone else who subscribes that is simply delusional. If the GOP backed and supported such an effort they would quickly find themselves a minority in both houses of Congress as voters send them packing. And they will not risk that as keeping their jobs and power is their highest priority.
 
It's not a very original observation but it seems obvious that SS itself does need to be changed to survive.
There's a bunch of actions that can be taken that don't affect current recipients.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Trump?s Promise Not to Touch Social Security Is Gone Now

He won't do it himself, but he also won't stop anyone else from doing it. Way to have Seniors backs Donnie. Said he wouldn't cut medicaid, changed his mind. Supporters didn't care. But now he's made it known he won't social security cuts, in a sane world that would piss off his base. Many of whom are on social security or plan to be one day in the near future.

So let's here the excuses this time, I've got my money on "he wouldn't be cutting it, he never promised to block congress if they try" and "fake news, show me where anyones planning on cutting social security" leading the charge.

To pre emptively rebut both those points, and save me the trouble later. Doesn't matter if its in the works, or will never happen. He's showing a willingness to lay down on campaign promises, and if it did come up he would let it happen. Whether he cuts it or someone else does and he allows it. The result will be the same. When he said no cuts to medicaid, medicare, and social security, its understood that is a promise to protect those instituions.
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Another rumor based on nothing.

Isn't there anything in the real world that deserves your outrage?
 
Pledge not to cut it, cut it, call your cuts "mean" behind closed doors. Rinse and repeat.
 
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