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The SHOOTER. Period.
The SHOOTER. Period.
The media. Perhaps if they'd quit reporting on what Trump SAYS and more on what he's DONE, they wouldn't be whipping up liberal hatred to a boiling point.
Trump's hardly a "good" president, but I fail to see the catastrophe that liberals moan about. I'd be willing to bet every one of these ultra-hateful, uber-liberals on this site have the exact same lifestyle and personal dealings as they did a year ago. No one is rounding up black people. No one is detaining mass groups of people. Your god-president's Obamacare is still in place. Yet everyone pretends that Satan himself is in the Oval Office, chewing on babies while shooting black people for fun.
People are responsible for their own actions ultimately.
The dishonest media plays a part in distributing a false narrative that contributes to the tension and violence.
"The American Left has embraced political violence. More precisely, the Left has embraced “anarcho-tyranny.” (Yes, I know what kind of man Sam Francis became; his phrase remains useful.) The anarcho part: Progressives including mainstream Democrats have embraced the sort of violence that has been directed against the likes of Charles Murray as an instrument of liberationist politics. Representative Val Demings, a Democratic congressman from Florida, shared her view that the riots greeting Milo Yiannopoulos at Berkeley were “a beautiful sight.” After a physical attack on white nationalist Richard Spencer, Jeremy Binckes of Salon wrote: “Maybe the question shouldn’t be, ‘Is it okay to punch a Nazi?’ but, ‘If you don’t want to be punched in the face, maybe you shouldn’t preach Nazi values to the public?’” A lively debate about the ethics of using violence to suppress certain political views ensued. Short version: Free speech did not experience a runaway victory. Things are worse on campus. The editorial board of the Daily Californian defended blackshirt violence on the grounds that, without it, “neo-Nazis would be free to roam the streets of Berkeley.” The argument that people who hold unpopular political opinions should be physically unsafe — that they should be subject not to social exclusion or criticism but to violence, afraid to roam the streets — is textbook totalitarianism. California’s political leaders did almost nothing in response to the violence at Berkeley, but when the Trump administration threatened to sanction California, they leapt to action. Nancy Pelosi claimed, with no evidence, that the violence in Berkeley was the result of peaceful protests being “infiltrated,” and insisted “the protesters have a right to free speech as well.” But what greeted Yiannopoulos in Berkeley was not free speech: It was political violence organized to suppress free speech. Representative Barbara Lee complained that the Trump administration’s insistence that Berkeley protect the safety and civil rights of its students and visitors was an attempt to “bully our university into silence” — but it was Yiannopoulos who had literally been bullied into silence — with firebombs and truncheons — along with Charles Murray, Ann Coulter, and others. A Middlebury professor had to be briefly hospitalized after being physically attacked for having invited Charles Murray to campus. That is not free speech. That is violence, and Democrats, judging by their non-response to these episodes, have more or less made their peace with it."
Alexandria Shooting & Political Violence ? The Left?s Continuation of Berkeley & Middlebury | National Review
Violence does not just start. It comes in stages.
The baby steps have already been taken and we should all wake up, take a step back, and take a deep breath.
" the Left’s blackshirts are permitted to inflict actual physical violence on people who have political opinions they don’t like, the Left’s whiteshirts — respectable Democratic officeholders and media figures — are working feverishly to inflict civil and criminal penalties on individuals and institutions that hold and communicate unpopular political opinions: “Arrest climate deniers!” Adam Weinstein and Robert Kennedy Jr. demanded, and, soon enough, Democrats were cooking up fraud cases against oil companies that had criticized climate-change proposals, and then used subpoenas and other measures to harass conservative and free-market political groups affiliated with them. Every Democrat in the Senate voted with Harry Reid to repeal the First Amendment and allow Congress to regulate political speech. The Obama administration saw to it that no one in the IRS ever faced any real punishment for that agency’s targeting of conservative groups for persecution and harassment."
"In reality, the only thing resembling a genuine totalitarian movement in American politics is the progressive camp from which emerged the man who shot Steve Scalise. Once you’ve accepted political violence as a legitimate tool in the context of American democracy — once you have concluded that the decision to use violence is only a matter of strategy, as Slavoj Žižek insists — then progress from pepper spray and bicycle locks to rifles and bombs is neither very long nor very difficult to anticipate."
If we want to have a good future we need to lighten up...a lot.
Nah, sorry, friends, but neither side gets to get off that easy. Until both sides simmer down on the rhetoric and the hateful bickering, you'll see more and more people go over the edge like that. Random chance nutters don't get their notion to shoot up a bunch of GOP politicians without inspiration from their side, and justification from the other. Definitely that was the case in this scenario. It's just lucky no one died...this time. Here's hoping you guys figure it out.
Nah, sorry, friends, but neither side gets to get off that easy. Until both sides simmer down on the rhetoric and the hateful bickering, you'll see more and more people go over the edge like that. Random chance nutters don't get their notion to shoot up a bunch of GOP politicians without inspiration from their side, and justification from the other. Definitely that was the case in this scenario. It's just lucky no one died...this time. Here's hoping you guys figure it out.
What exactly is that supposed to mean?
The SHOOTER. Period.
The SHOOTER. Period.
The SHOOTER. Period.
What exactly is that supposed to mean?
That means when you act like a super aggressive asshat towards the left because of your partisanship (you in the universal sense, of course, not calling you out, I'm sure you're super polite and civil in all your debating), you become the enemy the nut jobs expect you to be. Two sides of the same coin.
So are you somehow implying it would be "justified"? Because that's the word you used.
Right. Unless of course the shooter had been a Trump supporter taking aim at a bunch of democrats then you would be singing an entirely different tune.
Don't try to twist my words, I was speaking of in the minds of the nutters who are on the edge already...nice try though...
I wasn't trying to twist anything. Perhaps you should be a little more specific in the future, lest people misunderstand your meaning. :shrug: