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QUOTE From Paul Ryan ... He's just New to this!

Cigar

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:lamo. :lamo. :lamo

That's just Rich
 
Cigar said:
:lamo. :lamo. :lamo

That's just Rich
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It is rich.

It will be richer when the same people who defended Hillary as being too old and stupid to know how to handle classified information (but she should totes be POTUS) come in to mock Trump for also being out of his depth.

In the meantime, count this as yet another example of how the Presidency is not an entry-level position, and we should try not to hire narcissistic idiot children to it.
 
One of the reasons Mr. Trump was elected was because he was not a suave and experienced politician.

Being a political novice was a desirable characteristic, and as a result his voters expected it to be a steep learning curve for him sitting in the top seat of American power.

What we didn't expect was for "current and former officials" to actively undermine his transition into office, or those low level Federal civil servants and "independent" contractors who were opposed to his election leaking anything and everything even the slightest bit negative to the MSM to play with.

Small wonder this Administration is struggling with concerns of loyalty. :shrug:
 
cpwill said:
It is rich.

It will be richer when the same people who defended Hillary as being too old and stupid to know how to handle classified information (but she should totes be POTUS) come in to mock Trump for also being out of his depth.

In the meantime, count this as yet another example of how the Presidency is not an entry-level position, and we should try not to hire narcissistic idiot children to it.
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Donald just invites the enemy over to the WH and gives classified info directly to them.

How need a Server to be hacked :lamo
 
Captain Adverse said:
One of the reasons Mr. Trump was elected was because he was not a suave and experienced politician.

Being a political novice was a desirable characteristic, and as a result his voters expected it to be a steep learning curve for him sitting in the top seat of American power.

What we didn't expect was for "current and former officials" to actively undermine his transition into office, or those low level Federal civil servants and "independent" contractors who were opposed to his election leaking anything and everything even the slightest bit negative to the MSM to play with.

Small wonder this Administration is struggling with concerns of loyalty. :shrug:
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Dude, the guy doing the most to undermine Trump's administration is Trump.

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Cigar said:
:lamo. :lamo. :lamo

That's just Rich
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It's true. Trump is new to the political arena. Now hiring a seasoned political advisor and listening to him would alleviate quite a lot of the problems Trump has and had. Trump and family needs to get rid of twitter, stop stating whatever comes into his mind, begins to act presidential, end the ever presents feuds Trumps starts all the time. In short, get his act together.

Being new to the game may be true. But a good political advisor would do wonders. But Trump would have to listen to him which I doubt Trump listens to no one.
 
Captain Adverse said:
What we didn't expect was for "current and former officials" to actively undermine his transition into office,
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Really you didn't expect that? What are you four years old and unprepared. Oh wait, that's how Trump has been described by practically every politician and analyst that isn't on his payroll!!!!

Also when will he be done transitioning? It's been nearly half a year already.
 
Captain Adverse said:
One of the reasons Mr. Trump was elected was because he was not a suave and experienced politician.

Being a political novice was a desirable characteristic, and as a result his voters expected it to be a steep learning curve for him sitting in the top seat of American power.

What we didn't expect was for "current and former officials" to actively undermine his transition into office, or those low level Federal civil servants and "independent" contractors who were opposed to his election leaking anything and everything even the slightest bit negative to the MSM to play with.

Small wonder this Administration is struggling with concerns of loyalty. :shrug:
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That is surprising. Trump took such a high road during the election that it is hard to imagine how there could be such a culture of animosity.
 
Cigar said:
:lamo. :lamo. :lamo

That's just Rich
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Ryan is not a total clod, he knows that what ever he says now he will need to come off of soon at the impeachment.

This is perfect.
 
trump is under seige from 20 weeks of his own verified lies .
 
cpwill said:
Dude, the guy doing the most to undermine Trump's administration is Trump.

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Sir, with respect, I don't believe you were ever a Trump advocate from way back.

Now I will agree that Mr. Trump has made some mistakes, usually in Tweet form.

However, IMO if he hadn't been facing constant, unremitting attacks before and most especially after his election, things might have been different in the White House today.

Also IMO, he may seem reactionary and somewhat paranoid...but it's not paranoia when someone really IS out to get you. ;)
 
ModerateGOP said:
You forgot the other half. He doesn't know not to obstruct justice. Well, what else doesn't he know?
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trump must remain in office for the next two election cycles; before the 2021 remaps ;
 
CriticalThought said:
That is surprising. Trump took such a high road during the election that it is hard to imagine how there could be such a culture of animosity.
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I'm sorry...were you experiencing the same campaign I was observing? :confused:

That's where the attack meme's began, almost all completely misrepresenting things to claim he was a racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, blah, blah, blah...

If after reviewing ALL the alleged evidence and finding ANY real truth in it, I would not have supported his election.

In point of fact, there was none...oh, aside from the "grab them by the *****" comment.

Most of the animosity and violence was displayed by the "activist" SJW left. :shrug:
 
cpwill said:
Dude, the guy doing the most to undermine Trump's administration is Trump.

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Yep, but many candidates campaign better than they govern. Getting elected as POTUS is far easier than herding congress critters while the anti-Trump crew are playing resist, resist, resist as Trump can tell you. ;)
 
Captain Adverse said:
Sir, with respect, I don't believe you were ever a Trump advocate from way back.
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That is correct. I have never been a Trump advocate. I predicted he would prove a poor President, and I was correct.

Now I will agree that Mr. Trump has made some mistakes, usually in Tweet form.
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The inability to exercise the self-control of my 9 year old is indeed a major hindrance. So is ignorance mixed with narcissistic arrogance.

However, IMO if he hadn't been facing constant, unremitting attacks before and after his election, things might have been different in the White House today.
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Boo Hoo. Obama faced that. Bush faced that. Clinton faced that. Bush I faced it, Reagan did, etc so on and so forth. Dealing with being opposed is part of the job, especially for a Republican.

The media not liking him didn't keep Trump from having a plan to staff his administration. He's failed to staff his administration because of incompetence. The media not liking Trump didn't force him to stomp all over his own case at SCOTUS, he did it because he's unable a self-centered fool. The media hating Trump didn't force him to threaten Comey with tapes or admit on camera that he sent his aids out with a false tale on why he fired Comey. They didn't force him to botch hiring and firing (isn't that what he's supposed to be good at?). Etc so on and so forth ad nauseum. Tax reform, health reform, healthcare reform, all of them dropped balls, all of them harder because the President of the United States can not stop stomping on his own dick and then blaming his staff and party members.

Also IMO, he may seem reactionary and somewhat paranoid...but it not paranoia when someone really IS out to get you. ;)
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That. He also, however, seems completely out of his depth, unable to restrain his worse impulses, and unwilling to learn.

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ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, but many candidates campaign better than they govern. Getting elected as POTUS is far easier than herding congress critters while the anti-Trump crew are playing resist, resist, resist as Trump can tell you. ;)
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See earlier response to the good Captain. If you are unable to handle resistance to your agenda and do the difficult work of building a consensus and leading a political effort, then you won't be a decent Mayor, much less POTUS.

The "Oh it's not his fault because he's too incompetent to handle the opposition he engenders" argument isn't exactly a convincing argument in his favor.
 
Captain Adverse said:
One of the reasons Mr. Trump was elected was because he was not a suave and experienced politician.

Being a political novice was a desirable characteristic, and as a result his voters expected it to be a steep learning curve for him sitting in the top seat of American power.

What we didn't expect was for "current and former officials" to actively undermine his transition into office, or those low level Federal civil servants and "independent" contractors who were opposed to his election leaking anything and everything even the slightest bit negative to the MSM to play with.

Small wonder this Administration is struggling with concerns of loyalty. :shrug:
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While I could not have predicted the specifics of how Anti-Trumpers would undermine a Trump Administration, I certainly anticipated Trump having an extremely tough row to hoe.

If we compare politics to a game of chess, I don't even rank as a pawn. I spectate from the sideline lucky to find other interested insignificants to exchange comments with. When I found DP, I almost immediately felt at home!

Feel some Love!
 
cpwill said:
See earlier response to the good Captain. If you are unable to handle resistance to your agenda and do the difficult work of building a consensus and leading a political effort, then you won't be a decent Mayor, much less POTUS.

The "Oh it's not his fault because he's too incompetent to handle the opposition he engenders" argument isn't exactly a convincing argument in his favor.
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I agree with that (bolded above) assertion completely. Even with republicants in the majority of the House and Senate it is tough to get anything other than more of the typical borrow and spend federal government growth, which has yielded over a 90% re-election rate for congress critters, to happen. Trump may not be averse to taking political risk but congress critters are.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Sir, with respect, I don't believe you were ever a Trump advocate from way back.

Now I will agree that Mr. Trump has made some mistakes, usually in Tweet form.

However, IMO if he hadn't been facing constant, unremitting attacks before and most especially after his election, things might have been different in the White House today.

Also IMO, he may seem reactionary and somewhat paranoid...but it's not paranoia when someone really IS out to get you. ;)
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Anyone with a brain knew it was going to be bad when all the twit and chief was concerned with was the crowd size at his inauguration. You got what you voted for, enjoy!
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I agree with that (bolded above) assertion completely. Even with republicants in the majority of the House and Senate it is tough to get anything other than more than the typical borrow and spend federal government growth, which has yielded over a 90% re-election rate for congress critters, to happen. Trump may not be averse to taking political risk but congress critters are.
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Congress Critters under the previous president - who was also a narcissistic political neophyte - took large risks (many of them knowingly giving up their seats) for him.

Because he was minimally competent to the task of outlining a policy vision, pushing that vision, and then leading on it.


The GOP in Congress isn't advancing Trump's agenda is not least because is exactly sure wtf that agenda is. Mostly because neither does the President.
 
cpwill said:
Congress Critters under the previous president - who was also a narcissistic political neophyte - took large risks (many of them knowingly giving up their seats) for him.

Because he was minimally competent to the task of outlining a policy vision, pushing that vision, and then leading on it.


The GOP in Congress isn't advancing Trump's agenda is not least because is exactly sure wtf that agenda is. Mostly because neither does the President.
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Yep, congress critters may be slow learners but they did notice that too. Obama's greatest achievement, PPACA, was not exactly the magic attraction to get more folks to vote for demorats, in fact, it had the opposite effect. The republicant congress critters are not about to rock the boat to just to make Trump have a great legacy. The demorat congress critters are quite safe and happy doing exactly what they claimed was simply being the "party of no" when Obama was trying for more fundamental transformation.
 
In other words Ryan is saying that he's an idiot, but he reflects what many of the GOP members of the House and Senate believe, but he's their useful idiot. Never mind that his guys are into Russia and that they, the GOP, seems okay with that.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I'm sorry...were you experiencing the same campaign I was observing? :confused:

That's where the attack meme's began, almost all completely misrepresenting things to claim he was a racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, blah, blah, blah...

If after reviewing ALL the alleged evidence and finding ANY real truth in it, I would not have supported his election.

In point of fact, there was none...oh, aside from the "grab them by the *****" comment.

Most of the animosity and violence was displayed by the "activist" SJW left. :shrug:
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All this whining about the media is pretty pathetic when the media coverage of Hillary across the entire campaign was even more negative.

Also; what, 65% of the time it's negative, that's just President Trump's own words that are being evaluated as negative.

Did you ever stop to consider that the things he says are just bad?
 
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