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I guess it is okay if you want to believe "alternative facts"!

independentusa said:
I guess I have no problem with people believing alternative facts. I mean I can't stop them from doing so and they will do so whether I agree with them or not. The latest alternative fact had to do with what the Mayor of London said about not being alarmed by the added police presence on London street. The alternative fact being that Trump said the Mayor meant that people shouldn't be alarmed because of the terrorist attacks on Britain. Now if you watched the actual film of what the Mayor said it was obvious he was talking about not being alarmed at the added police presence. Many from the GOP and from con radio and TV pushed Trump's tweets, those being the alternative fact, that the mayor was talking about not being alarmed because of the terrorist attack. I guess you can believe which fact you agree with and it won't change anything. I guess with today's politics, there are no "real facts", just the truth and alternative facts and people will believe the facts determined by their politics.
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IMO, Trump supporters are too stupid to understand real facts. So, I forgive them for clinging to alternate ones.
 
Mason66 said:
You show right there in your quote the London Mayor is a liar.

"We are the safest global city in the world."

Three attacks in three months does not make you the safest global city in the world.
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Questionable statement by Khan. Doesn't change the fact that Trump lied. And Trump's lie is so much worse, as it's an out-of-context jab at the London mayor immediately following a terror attack.
 
Dittohead not! said:
What do Trump's own words have to do with Trump? Did you really post that?

If indeed Obama stated that he was born in Kenya, then yes, he was lying. What does that have to do with trump's own words? Does it really mean that thousands of Muslims celebrated in New Jersey? Trump said he saw them, after all.
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Why would you pick another case where Trump was not lying?
 
GhostlyJoe said:
Questionable statement by Khan. Doesn't change the fact that Trump lied. And Trump's lie is so much worse, as it's an out-of-context jab at the London mayor immediately following a terror attack.
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I am sorry, what did Trump lie about?
 
Mason66 said:
I am sorry, what did Trump lie about?
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Ummm .. Trump's Kahn tweet, the subject of the OP, the topic of this thread. Taking a quote out of context and re-framing it in order to defame the speaker is dishonest, wouldn't you say?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yep. Haters will say that statements like thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey and millions of illegals voting for Hillary are simply not true. Supporters will simply ignore the fact that Trump made those statements and a lot more like them.
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So I guess you just want to keep this silly crap going all day?

The haters are the ones anxiously waiting for more instructions from the commanders they have turned their lives over to. Why else would all their media partners be cooking the books to keep them barking?
 
Vetplus40 said:
The MSM is far more accurate than you want to admit to. Do they makes errors? Sure they do. So do physicians, but I bet that you wouldn't hesitate to see one if you had a significant health issue now would you?.............:)
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Stupid analogy. MSM is a corporate owned propaganda factory that is no more accurate than the National Inquirer or Infowars. The only difference is that their propaganda is centralized by AP and Reuters and fed to them and all other media outlets so that all main stream news outlets tell almost the same story with their own political twist. Main stream media does not make mistakes, it spews propaganda designed to keep stupid people stupid. Hell they do not even try to hide the fact they are pumping you full of propaganda. They accurately indicate what they peddle by naming it "programing". They program the minds of ignorant people not only what to believe, but how to think.
 
ocean515 said:
So I guess you just want to keep this silly crap going all day?

The haters are the ones anxiously waiting for more instructions from the commanders they have turned their lives over to. Why else would all their media partners be cooking the books to keep them barking?
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talk about silly crap!

Just who do you think these "commanders" are? Are they the ones making up the silly stuff that Trump keeps tweeting?
 
Dittohead not! said:
talk about silly crap!

Just who do you think these "commanders" are? Are they the ones making up the silly stuff that Trump keeps tweeting?
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The list is well known. You don't think it's really necessary to post the list so we can then go back and forth debating it?

Obama has formed his group, Hillary paved the way for Dark Money with her new group, the Progressive Machine is dumping $10 of millions into the rhetoric machine, and then there is the left's MSM partners.

For example, Comey testifies all these "sources" spouting one thing or another the left's media partners are citing are BS, and the left's media partners hardly stop to take a breather.

Dog whistles will continue to be blown as long as the pack keeps responding.
 
ocean515 said:
The list is well known. You don't think it's really necessary to post the list so we can then go back and forth debating it?

Obama has formed his group, Hillary paved the way for Dark Money with her new group, the Progressive Machine is dumping $10 of millions into the rhetoric machine, and then there is the left's MSM partners.

For example, Comey testifies all these "sources" spouting one thing or another the left's media partners are citing are BS, and the left's media partners hardly stop to take a breather.

Dog whistles will continue to be blown as long as the pack keeps responding.
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Is sending tweets under Trump's name a part of this dark conspiracy, or are you ready to admit he really does make some really off the wall statements?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Is sending tweets under Trump's name a part of this dark conspiracy, or are you ready to admit he really does make some really off the wall statements?
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LOL

You haven't that question! Yes, I think the President has closed his fingers in the door with some of his tweets.

Frankly, given how the left and their media partners twist them, I'd like to see him stop doing it all together.

As proven in Comeys testimony, the left and their media partners are going to make stuff up just about every time, so why feed the beast?
 
ocean515 said:
LOL

You haven't that question! Yes, I think the President has closed his fingers in the door with some of his tweets.

Frankly, given how the left and their media partners twist them, I'd like to see him stop doing it all together.

As proven in Comeys testimony, the left and their media partners are going to make stuff up just about every time, so why feed the beast?
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There is no need to twist anything, his words are what they are.
We also heard Comey's own words. They are what they are as well.
 
Dittohead not! said:
There is no need to twist anything, his words are what they are.
We also heard Comey's own words. They are what they are as well.
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Obviously there is a need to twist them, as the left's MSM partners have made an art of doing so since the President first announced his intent to run.

How else do you think the left's MSM partners have achieved such dismal standings among the population?
 
ocean515 said:
Obviously there is a need to twist them, as the left's MSM partners have made an art of doing so since the President first announced his intent to run.

How else do you think the left's MSM partners have achieved such dismal standings among the population?
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How dare they use Trump's own words against him?
 
ocean515 said:
You know, an objective listener/viewer would understand that Conway's use of the phrase "alternative facts" meant there are people on the left who believe lies, which would be best described as "alternative facts".

It's hysterical these types have grabbed ahold of this appropriately assigned phrase, and try to apply it in a way their rulers spun it at the time.

So, the only accurate comment you made in your post here is your last sentence.
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Your post gives its own alternative fact, i.e., you have it backwards.

Conway proposed what she described as an "alternative fact", namely the size of Trump's crowd size at the inauguration.
 
WCH said:
This same mayor has said those living in a large city should expect the occasional terrorist act. Looks as though he's set the tone.
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An if he said that in what way or in what manner is he wrong as even the two cities under the personal protection of Trump is not free of terrorists attacks see the news.
 
JackA said:
Your post gives its own alternative fact, i.e., you have it backwards.

Conway proposed what she described as an "alternative fact", namely the size of Trump's crowd size at the inauguration.
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Why are you using alternative facts, when I posted the transcript of the point in question.

The hack hammered Conway, and she answered the question. Spicer used crowd size information believed to be just as reliable as what the left's MSM hacks were using.

The hack called their numbers crap and demanded to know why the President would send out Spicer to lie. What a tool that media jack azz was. Little did people know that the left's media was just warming up.

I've already admitted Conway should not have used the phrase "alternative fact" because, while accurate, it certainly gave the intellectually vacant and gullible an opening to twist it into something they've never let go of.

I've proved all this, so there is really no reason to debate it further.
 
ocean515 said:
You know, an objective listener/viewer would understand that Conway's use of the phrase "alternative facts" meant there are people on the left who believe lies, which would be best described as "alternative facts".

It's hysterical these types have grabbed ahold of this appropriately assigned phrase, and try to apply it in a way their rulers spun it at the time.

So, the only accurate comment you made in your post here is your last sentence.
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:lamo

That's not what she said, and that's not what she meant. What an absolutely pathetic attempt to cover for Conway.
 
BillRM said:
An if he said that in what way or in what manner is he wrong as even the two cities under the personal protection of Trump is not free of terrorists attacks see the news.
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What cities are Trump 'personally' protecting?
 
ocean515 said:
You mean their spin on Trumps words. Again, that's why the left's MSM partners are viewed with such disdain by the public.
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Please explain how these words were "spun":

Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.”
STEPHANOPOULOS:*“You know, the police say that didn’t happen and all those rumors have been on the Internet for some time. So did you misspeak yesterday?”
TRUMP:*“It did happen. I saw it.”
STEPHANOPOULOS:*“You saw that…”
TRUMP: It was on television. I saw it.
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In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
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When you've done that, I'll see how many more direct quotes I can find for you to tell us are just spin.
 
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