Kathy Griffin: Trump is 'trying to ruin my life' after photo scandal

matchlight said:

That photo expresses a wish to see President Trump killed violently. But it was symbolic speech only, and did nothing to further the end it portrayed. Anyone is free to hate or disrespect any President, or to desecrate his image. We don't have kings in America, nor has the idea of lese majeste ever lived here. The photo does not shock me any more than it would shock me to see an effigy of a President or other public figure being hanged or burned. That has happened many thousands of times in many thousands of places around this country during its history, and most people have seen it as a testimonial to American freedom of speech. I see this photo in the same light.

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You're right in that there is nothing criminal about what she did. It was merely tasteless and she reaped a good bit of what she sowed. Here "Victimhood" deal, however, is likely to cost her more than the stunt ever did.

The left was pissed at her because she went overboard and afforded Trump a bit of sympathy when they had him against the wall for his European trip. By playing the victim card today she doubled down on that and then some. She accused Trump of trying to hurt her because his 11 year old son was shocked by the image. There is no scenario where that plays well and she's pretty much saying "We can say whatever we want about Trump but he can't say anything back."

What she did was bad and worthy of ridicule and perhaps boycott, if you are into that kind of thing. But it wasn't illegal. People making actual death threats to her are worse and are even breaking the law.

Mason66 said:

She is still trying to tap into the anti-Trump hate out there.

Maybe she thinks trying to pass herself as a victim of Trump will offset some of the outrage from the picture.

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You know what surprised me ? That limits to the public expression of Trump hatred existed at all.

holbritter said:

And people have the freedom of speech to condemn it.

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I'm starting to see that discussed in more detail by a couple posters on these forums. Fake liberals, like so many brownshirts, regularly mount organized efforts to silence and personally ruin public figures--Sean Hannity is just one current example--whose views they dislike. They are engaged in a private attack on the freedom of speech, and now they even seem to be making a target of Kathy Griffin. There is a difference, it seems to me, between deciding not to pay to watch her perform and wanting her blacklisted. The anti-American comment one of the Dixie Chicks once made overseas may have made me decide never to buy that group's music, for example, but it did not make me want to take part in a effort to ruin its members personally and professionally.

Government may not be able to stop these private persons from doing what would be unconstitutional if government did it, but other private persons can. These pseudo-liberal thugs should be taught that if they want to play rough, their opponents can play rough, too. I don't like to see true liberals forced to use brownshirt tactics against people to whom those tactics come naturally, but sometimes fire can only be fought with fire.

In a news conference on Friday, Griffin's attorney Lisa Bloom accused Trump and his family of "using their power to target her."

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Trying to play the victim in all this, Kathy? How pathetic.

The Trump family doesn't have to "use their power" to "target" you. Face facts: You destroyed yourself!

AlbqOwl said:

I have seen nothing from any of the Trump family regarding this despicable act that I thought was inappropriate or out of line. And I'm pretty darn sure none of them have put out any kind of 'contract' on her in any regard.

What she did was contemptible and worthy of contempt.

However, I think anybody who has targeted her for unwarranted abuse, threats etc. are as bad as she is. I don't blame her sponsors etc. for dropping her. I would not continue to hire somebody who would do what she did. But neither would I hire somebody who thinks physical threats or death threats or doing to her what she did to the President is okay either.

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On this, we emphatically agree: "What she did was contemptible and worthy of contempt."

I don't think Barron's reaction should be weaponized against Griffin. I think Barron, as a child, should be left out of this issue. If Barron is having trouble with it, i think that should be a private matter.

Notice how even with this, the media tries to word it as if Trump is to blame. Trump “broke” her. He did no such thing. The witch should have known there would be blowback and if she can’t handle that, it’s on her - nobody else.

Can you imagine if Paula Dean had said black people ruined her career and it was now over?

Absentglare said:

On this, we emphatically agree: "What she did was contemptible and worthy of contempt."

I don't think Barron's reaction should be weaponized against Griffin. I think Barron, as a child, should be left out of this issue. If Barron is having trouble with it, i think that should be a private matter.

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But it isn't a private matter. It is probably a rare elected official that doesn't have family, children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, young cousins, neighbors, friends with young children that know the official well. And when they see the one they love or admire reviled and disrespected, sometimes in the most cruel and hateful manner, they can't be expected to take that philosophically as 'oh well, that's politics.' It hurts. Sometimes a lot.

And even children who don't know a person personally are affected by the way the older people around them behave.

I personally don't understand how it is fun for some to say or post or approve of the most dishonest hateful and cruel things just because we disagree with somebody politically. I think it coarsens and desensitizes us as human beings, encourages like behavior, and the nation is a more inhospitable, unkind, discourteous, and hateful place because of it.

Of course politicians are fair game for criticism and as citizens we should speak out against what we see as unjust laws, wrong headed policy, etc. We all have different perspectives and we aren't going to agree on a lot of things. I have no quarrel with anybody who criticizes what President trump proposes or does as President. Until that criticism becomes personally cruel and hateful. Most especially when they are cruelly despicable as in what Kathy Griffin did. It was also reprehensible when President Obama's children had to see some of the cruel depictions and comments about their dad from total jerks out there.

I want us all to be better people than that.

Again, I have seen nothing from anybody in the Trump family that I thought over the top or out of line or threatening or otherwise inappropriate. And I certainly don't think they should be expected to say nothing at all. They could give lessons in how that kind of criticism should be done.

Probably the only woman in the world where the label "****" applies.

She’s a liberal..... She goes and does something so utterly disgusting and repulsive and she pulls a Hillary! Blaming everything but her herself, and incredibly even blaming the victim!!!!!

AlbqOwl said:

But it isn't a private matter. It is probably a rare elected official that doesn't have family, children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, young cousins, neighbors, friends with young children that know the official well. And when they see the one they love or admire reviled and disrespected, sometimes in the most cruel and hateful manner, they can't be expected to take that philosophically as 'oh well, that's politics.' It hurts. Sometimes a lot.

And even children who don't know a person personally are affected by the way the older people around them behave.

I personally don't understand how it is fun for some to say or post or approve of the most dishonest hateful and cruel things just because we disagree with somebody politically. I think it coarsens and desensitizes us as human beings, encourages like behavior, and the nation is a more inhospitable, unkind, discourteous, and hateful place because of it.

Of course politicians are fair game for criticism and as citizens we should speak out against what we see as unjust laws, wrong headed policy, etc. We all have different perspectives and we aren't going to agree on a lot of things. I have no quarrel with anybody who criticizes what President trump proposes or does as President. Until that criticism becomes personally cruel and hateful. Most especially when they are cruelly despicable as in what Kathy Griffin did. It was also reprehensible when President Obama's children had to see some of the cruel depictions and comments about their dad from total jerks out there.

I want us all to be better people than that.

Again, I have seen nothing from anybody in the Trump family that I thought over the top or out of line or threatening or otherwise inappropriate. And I certainly don't think they should be expected to say nothing at all. They could give lessons in how that kind of criticism should be done.

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Please do not misunderstand me, i am not suggesting that young Barron should just suck it up or anything.

I'm suggesting that the adults should not publicize and broadcast Barron's response in political warfare. I think Barron Trump deserves privacy. Barron's reaction is inappropriate to use as political ammunition.

Absentglare said:

Please do not misunderstand me, i am not suggesting that young Barron should just suck it up or anything.

I'm suggesting that the adults should not publicize and broadcast Barron's response in political warfare. I think Barron Trump deserves privacy. Barron's reaction is inappropriate to use as political ammunition.

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Okay that's fair. And I do see where you are coming from and I haven't looked at it from that perspective. I may disagree or I may not. I'll have to think on that awhile.

Winchester said:

I don't know why she didn't foresee this. Yeah, let's do a photoshoot with me holding a mock up of the severed bloody head of the President... there will be no blowback. She's dumber than I thought.

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The anti-Trumpers have created an atmosphere of hatred and disrespect and she thought anything is fair game. I'm surprised at the blowback, actually; but, I think it's just for show.

volsrock said:

Well she is a lib..has to blame someone else

Also she says its only because she is female that this blew up so big.

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Trump must be a lib too then, if that's your yardstick.

TheGoverness said:

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Kathy, last time I checked, it was you that decided to do the photo shoot. Not them.

Just sayin'. Can't really blame Trump for something that you did. Don't play the victim card now.

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If nothing else proves KG is a moronic f'n twat, these last two days sure does it in spades.

I hope she has to end up working the rest of her life as a maid for some cheesy hotel chain in Jabip, Nowhereville.

TheGoverness said:

Article Here.



Kathy, last time I checked, it was you that decided to do the photo shoot. Not them.

Just sayin'. Can't really blame Trump for something that you did. Don't play the victim card now.

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At first I thought she was doing some kind of Hillary impression blaming her decisions on everyone but where the actual fault lies.

She might actually be serious.

These people are clinically insane.

At this point she's lost some income.

Islamic organizations around Mosul might be willing to pay for a media consultant given her mad media skills.

AlbqOwl said:

I have seen nothing from any of the Trump family regarding this despicable act that I thought was inappropriate or out of line. And I'm pretty darn sure none of them have put out any kind of 'contract' on her in any regard.

What she did was contemptible and worthy of contempt.

However, I think anybody who has targeted her for unwarranted abuse, threats etc. are as bad as she is. I don't blame her sponsors etc. for dropping her. I would not continue to hire somebody who would do what she did. But neither would I hire somebody who thinks physical threats or death threats or doing to her what she did to the President is okay either.

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Oh, yeah. All the people who are sending death threats her way are scumbags.

TheGoverness said:

Oh, yeah. All the people who are sending death threats her way are scumbags.

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Let's see who they are because Griffin is trying to say the Trumps are sending her the threats.

I want her to prove that in front of everybody just she accused them in front of everybody.

Pooor, poooor, poooooor Little Terrorist! My heart Bleeds!


I feel almost as bad for her as I do for the Jail Black Lefties Murder creeps.



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Absentglare said:

Please do not misunderstand me, i am not suggesting that young Barron should just suck it up or anything.

I'm suggesting that the adults should not publicize and broadcast Barron's response in political warfare. I think Barron Trump deserves privacy. Barron's reaction is inappropriate to use as political ammunition.

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Okay. I have thought it through some more. I appreciate your point of view on this and think it appropriate and with merit.

However, I have thought about President and Melania's action compared to what my own response would be in that particular circumstance. And if it had been my child experiencing that, I don't think I would keep silent about it. I would want that person to know that she isn't just mocking me, she is hurting my children. And that is not fair game.

And it isn't as if Griffin hadn't thought about it. It has been widely reported now that in December, 2016, she said:

AlbqOwl said:

Okay. I have thought it through some more. I appreciate your point of view on this and think it appropriate and with merit.

However, I have thought about President and Melania's action compared to what my own response would be in that particular circumstance. And if it had been my child experiencing that, I don't think I would keep silent about it. I would want that person to know that she isn't just mocking me, she is hurting my children. And that is not fair game.

And it isn't as if Griffin hadn't thought about it. It has been widely reported now that in December, 2016, she said:

"Now more than ever we must absolutely go for all the absurdities," she said. "For me, that's Trump and all things Trump. It's not about trying to be an equal-opportunity offender anymore because Hillary got such a beat down. It's his turn."

"So I'm happy to deliver beat down to Donald Trump — and also to Barron," she said.​

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That hasn't worked out very well for her. She'd be wise not to go after the 11-year old; parents, irrespective of political lean, will condemn that and her.

volsrock said:

Well she is a lib..has to blame someone else

Also she says its only because she is female that this blew up so big.

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She also took the time to blame "old white men". I haven't been able to decipher that one yet. In the eyes of the left, do old white men have a thing against old white women now?

Dragonfly said:

If nothing else proves KG is a moronic f'n twat, these last two days sure does it in spades.

I hope she has to end up working the rest of her life as a maid for some cheesy hotel chain in Jabip, Nowhereville.

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I don't think she should have to do penance for the rest of her life over this. She didn't actually murder or unethically ruin somebody or commit a heinous crime. She was vulgar, hateful, and cruel, but there is no law against that. It seems to be stock in trade these days from some who think they have the moral license to do anything to say anything about anybody because they are on the self righteous side.

But she and she alone did this and that so many people, even those sharing her political views, saw it so over the top and reprehensible, I personally am encouraged that maybe we lefties and righties do share some common values. I would like to think so.

If I were Griffin, I would have sent flowers and a personal note to Melania and Barron Trump admitting that she was an insensitive and classless jerk and she is truly sorry for any pain or distress that she caused them. But of course she hasn't done that and is now blaming THEM which definitely calls her 'apology' into question as sincere. It isn't as if she is ruined. The woman is worth some $20 million. If she took her lumps like a trooper, and she was truly contrite, which of course she has demonstrated that she is not, this would eventually blow over.

Don Imus quipped a joking 'nappy headed ho's', about one of two competing all-black girl basketball teams he was discussing. An inappropriate characterization for sure but it was neither mean spirited or intended as an insult. But due to the public outrage, he lost his job and has never regained his prominence in the entertainment world. And that in my opinion is wrong.

When it came to light that Paula Deen had used the 'n' word once in a deposition decades ago, there were angry groups who attacked the Food Network, its advertisers, and she was fired and lost several sponsors. That in my opinion is wrong.

When Phil Robertson, in an interview, expressed his opinion over what the Bible said, angry groups attacked A&E, its advertisers, and demanded that he not work there ever again. That in my opinion is wrong.

There are groups right now attacking conservatives on every front, intimidating their advertisers, trying to get them off the air and silenced. That in my opinion is wrong, hateful, dangerous, and should be condemned by everybody.

I would like to believe that honorable people on both the left and right would defend everybody's right to free speech without harrassment and being physically and economically attacked.

And I would like to believe that honorable people on both the left and right would condemn hateful, cruel, malicious, and dishonest speech and acts regardless of who is doing it.

AlbqOwl said:

Okay. I have thought it through some more. I appreciate your point of view on this and think it appropriate and with merit.

However, I have thought about President and Melania's action compared to what my own response would be in that particular circumstance. And if it had been my child experiencing that, I don't think I would keep silent about it. I would want that person to know that she isn't just mocking me, she is hurting my children. And that is not fair game.

And it isn't as if Griffin hadn't thought about it. It has been widely reported now that in December, 2016, she said:

Kathy Griffin told Vulture at the Equality Now Gala Tuesday night. “For me, that’s Trump and all things Trump. It’s not about trying to be an equal-opportunity offender anymore because Hillary got such a beat down. It’s his turn. So I’m happy to deliver beat down to Donald Trump — and also to Barron. You know a lot of comics are going to go hard for Donald, my edge is that I’ll go direct for Barron. I’m going to get in ahead of the game.”
http://www.vulture.com/2016/12/kathy-griffin-comedy-should-go-hard-on-trump.html​

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How the **** can she be proud of that, going after an 11yr old? Chatty Kathy is definitely a special brand of stupid.

natsb said:

She also took the time to blame "old white men". I haven't been able to decipher that one yet. In the eyes of the left, do old white men have a thing against old white women now?

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She's just taking a page out of the "Handbook For Whiny Liberals": When all else fails, use the race card.
It's pathetic.