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War, to be Humane, Must be Total

JBG

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War is hell. There is no doubt about that. Children who just yesterday seemed to be playing in the tire swing on the front yard are off to fight, often in some distant land or venue. Everyone of any degree of sanity wishes that this were never needed, and that our beloved flesh and blood could go peacefully from playful childhood to productive, fruitful adulthood to wise old age.

Unfortunately, the way of the world is that nations and religious groups frequently do not like each other. There is always some group that doesn't want to engage in diplomacy or good-faith negotiation. It is the people that enjoy the cherished freedom relished by Americans and Canadians that do not wish to fight. Sometimes other people or groups make unreasonable demands that must be resisted. For example, in the U.S. south, peole demanded the right to keep other people enslaved, and were willing to foresake Congressional and electoral debate to that end. In more modern times, various groups, at different times calling themselves fascists, communists, or Islamists, believed that they had the right to limit the freedom of others, in behalf of some deranged or impractical dream of world paradise, on their terms, with them as rulers.

The civilized world has always tried to limit the bloodshed of war initially. During the Civil War, Union forces took no steps to occupy Virginia or North Carolina prior to their long-delayed secession from the Union. During World War II, much time was spent in both the European and Atlantic theaters on peripheral engagements with enemy troops, some at great cost of Allied life. How many Americans died at Guadalcanal, Midway, Iwo Jima and various African sites far removed from the main Axis powers?

Both the Civil War and WW II ended when the victors became serious about fighting. General Sherman's "March to the Sea", which devastated large swaths of Georgia, convinced the remaining Confederates that their cause was hopelss. The Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki attacks, in my view, for the first time convinced the German and Japanese people, respectively, that their "leadership" was taking them one place; to the grave.

There are, of course, exceptions. The War of 1812 ended in a standstill truce. However, the nations on either side of the border were prepared to live with the other permanently. That is not the case with most current war zones. Russia is not reconciled to Ukrainian independence or for that matter the freedom of the Baltic States or Eastern Europe. The Islamic countries of the Middle East do not want a Jewish state of Israel.

For war to end, the ultimate victors must prosecute it to the maximum extent possible. I am not advocating attacking supermarkets and skyscrapers deliberately. Those kinds of attacks accomplish little. If fanatics seek war, they should be given what they ask for. In spades. Attempts to daintily avoid civilian casualties and negotiate prematurely lead only to prolonged and greater grief.
 
defense is one thing, offense is quite another.

The US should squander every penny it has on offense, we will be more broke than we already are, and the world will hate US even more than they do now.

Bliss ...........
 
defense is one thing, offense is quite another.

The US should squander every penny it has on offense, we will be more broke than we already are, and the world will hate US even more than they do now.

Bliss ...........
Do democracies such as the U.S. or Israel have any hope of being loved and respected? Every attempt to play to world opinion has gotten "leaders" such as Jimmuh Carter and B. Hussein Obama laughed at.
 
Do democracies such as the U.S. or Israel have any hope of being loved and respected? Every attempt to play to world opinion has gotten "leaders" such as Jimmuh Carter and B. Hussein Obama laughed at.


so, getting laughed at hurts your wittle feewings, huh?
IMO it would be more prudent to reserve one's ability to completely destroy an enemy in a defensive response than to destroy one's own reputation via a jackass offensive approach.
 
so, getting laughed at hurts your wittle feewings, huh?
IMO it would be more prudent to reserve one's ability to completely destroy an enemy in a defensive response than to destroy one's own reputation via a jackass offensive approach.
In 1967 Israel attacked preemptively when threatened by a blockade and won in six days. In 1973 they allowed the Arabs to attack first, trying to curry favor with "world opinion." They were almost wiped out.
 
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