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Wall Street Journal: Rural America Is the New 'Inner City'

Fenton said:
Hmmm...Im a Native Texan, lived here my entire life and havent seen this rural decay you speak of.

If its a product of Conservative policies Texas proper should be destitute and impoverished.

But its not ! Low taxes and sensible regulatory policies attracts new capital investment and bussines and quite of few people from Blue States like California, Illinois, New York, Washington, etc.
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another ignorant post out of texas. close to the same number of businesses move from texas to cali.
 
Zalatix said:
Big cities have problems. We get that. Rural people have been calling us "city slickers". That is ALSO true.
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There are rural people that have stupid stereotypes about all people living in cities. I've encountered some and they irk me.

I'm a city slicker, and proud of it. But that doesn't change the fact that rural areas are infested with big city drugs, big city crime and big city poverty. "But teh big cities, too!" doesn't fix that. Rural areas are in a population decline. That is an irrefutable fact as determined by the US Census. If you don't fix that it's pretty much game over. And I'm happy with that.
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Some rural areas. Speaking for Wisconsin, which has heroin and certain crime problems to be found through the state, there are still some very nice small towns and rural communities.

I'm a city slicker and I'm proud of my city diversity, my city tolerance of gays and lesbians, and my city cheap food and electricity. At least my cities don't need subsidies like rural electrification and bull****. Oh and there are 5 hospitals within spitting distance of me, too. Can all you rural folks say that?
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I was born and raised in Milwaukee. I don't farm land nor do I ride a horse.

Although Milwaukee is a lot younger in origins as a city than Siena in Italy. And Milwaukee is also more ethnically and racially diverse than that Italian city. But in that densely packed Italian city they not only love riding horses they mix religion within it. (And bribes, but hey, we are speaking about Italian culture in Italy)

But is Siena in Italy so bad a place because it has a culture going back longer than the US existed and Siena is less diverse than Milwaukee? I don't think so.



Milwaukee tolerates LGBTQ as well. Plenty of gay clubs and annual LGBTQ celebrations and OI think even a gay bathhouse. But a Catholic University (Marquette University) still makes a big social and economic impact on the neighborhood my apartment is located in.



That said... I'm pretty sure quite a number of small rural-like towns in Wisconsin treat LGBTQ people pretty good. I doubt most go out an stone them. Everyone in rural or small towns are not ignorant hicks waiting to harm some black person or LGBTQ person. Some of those people exist sure. But surprise, surprise, California is full of them in what is it? Orange County I think? I think the single place on earth with the greatest number of racist skinheads outside of Germany.
 
FastPace said:
There are rural people that have stupid stereotypes about all people living in cities. I've encountered some and they irk me.



Some rural areas. Speaking for Wisconsin, which has heroin and certain crime problems to be found through the state, there are still some very nice small towns and rural communities.



I was born and raised in Milwaukee. I don't farm land nor do I ride a horse.

Although Milwaukee is a lot younger in origins as a city than Siena in Italy. And Milwaukee is also more ethnically and racially diverse than that Italian city. But in that densely packed Italian city they not only love riding horses they mix religion within it. (And bribes, but hey, we are speaking about Italian culture in Italy)

But is Siena in Italy so bad a place because it has a culture going back longer than the US existed and Siena is less diverse than Milwaukee? I don't think so.



Milwaukee tolerates LGBTQ as well. Plenty of gay clubs and annual LGBTQ celebrations and OI think even a gay bathhouse. But a Catholic University (Marquette University) still makes a big social and economic impact on the neighborhood my apartment is located in.



That said... I'm pretty sure quite a number of small rural-like towns in Wisconsin treat LGBTQ people pretty good. I doubt most go out an stone them. Everyone in rural or small towns are not ignorant hicks waiting to harm some black person or LGBTQ person. Some of those people exist sure. But surprise, surprise, California is full of them in what is it? Orange County I think? I think the single place on earth with the greatest number of racist skinheads outside of Germany.
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Orange County is a Conservative county, they sent B1 Bob Dornan to Congress (and then dragged him back home, LOL). There's a lot of very low population Trumplandia rural red zones in CA. Nonetheless OC went for Clinton, probably because of the cities there - Irvine, Anaheim, etc. You might be right about the skinheads. But they won't ever wander into the cities. They'll get hurt there, just like the Trumpsters did.

And with nearly 600,000 people, Milwaukee hardly qualifies as any sort of rural area. If I recall correctly 288K Milwaukeeans voted for Clinton vs 126K for Trump but my memory could be off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What is your definition of rural?
 
Winchester said:
Did you read that or just the headline?
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If you're going to make a point then why not just make it? Bluff called - yes I did. Show yer cards. What in there negates my point?
 
Zalatix said:
And with nearly 600,000 people, Milwaukee hardly qualifies as any sort of rural area. If I recall correctly 288K Milwaukeeans voted for Clinton vs 126K for Trump but my memory could be off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What is your definition of rural?
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Yeah, Milwaukee is urban and run by Democrats. Most people voted for Hillary Clinton I'm sure. Milwaukee has a strong socialist past, too, with having had more than one socialist mayor.

The history of the socialist first making their mark on the city is interesting. Back in the 1800s Milwaukee was like many cities in the US back then, machine politics, lots of corruption, and pretty wide open with a Red Light district (brothels operating openly), gambling halls/bars that would be packed, opium dens run by Chinese, and cocaine sold either legally out of pharmacies or sold out the backdoor of pharmacies with the cops turning a blind eye. A good number of murders went unsolved back then too. A number of corpses found floating in the river. One of which was a man with his legs cut off, hands tied, wrapped in a sack with the sack tied around his neck, and a large ax wound in his head. In the Third Ward section, during the time the Sicilians lived there, the Black Hand got away with a lot of scams and a good number of murders. They liked using double barrel shotguns and just shooting you through a window in your house.

So, the socialist ran on a morally conservative campaign to clean the city up. Primarily from gambling and prostitution (the brothels).


A farm especially around other farms is certainly one kind of place I would call rural:




Something like Ishnala Supper Club in the Wisconsin Dells is what I would regard as small town. But that is kind of blurry because lots of these small towns like the Dells are immediately surrounded by rural land.



Wisconsin Dells has a population of almost 3,000 people. In my own view once you get to a population of about 50,000 people then you become a good sized city and not a small town. So, I consider something like La Crosse, Wisconsin to be a city. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Crosse,_Wisconsin)

But you raise an interesting question. When is something a small town or not a small town? As well as what are the limits to not being "rural" anymore? I don't know. I have subjective views.
 
Zalatix said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/rural-america-is-the-new-inner-city-1495817008


Translation:

Conservatives have been moving out of the big filthy liberal diverse cities into the pristine Gawd fearing militia-friendly enclaves in the rural areas.
Rural Conservatives have dominated these areas with rural Conservative politics.

City slickers, meanwhile, embraced diversity, dem filthy illegals, women's rights and those nasty women, teh gay, transvestites and all those filthy degenerates, and worst of all evolution and global warming and all that

After decades of Gawd-fearing right wing politics ruling the Rural areas the rural folks are poor as heck, sick, and dying out. Now undoubtedly they will want to blame the liberals for the mess they made of their own rural paradise.

Sorry, rural Americans, the mess you are living in out in the American outback is the mess you made. Enjoy! Now sink or swim, just as you like to tell the poor women and people of color. Don't come crying to us liberals as fracking turns your water to fire and everything goes to crap.
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I have always wondered when the crap seen in the cities would find its way to small town USA. It took a long time, but I guess it's finally happening. Stands to reason. No one is immune. They just thought they were.
 
Fenton said:
Hmmm...Im a Native Texan, lived here my entire life and havent seen this rural decay you speak of.

If its a product of Conservative policies Texas proper should be destitute and impoverished.

But its not ! Low taxes and sensible regulatory policies attracts new capital investment and bussines and quite of few people from Blue States like California, Illinois, New York, Washington, etc.
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Texas is a big state. If you are SW, you may not know just how bad the meth problem is in the NE part of your state. Actually, I'd say the entire rural eastern side is MethLand.

Life and Meth
 
calamity said:
I have always wondered when the crap seen in the cities would find its way to small town USA. It took a long time, but I guess it's finally happening. Stands to reason. No one is immune. They just thought they were.
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Their arrogance has come back to bite them on the butt. Bigly.
 
Renae said:
Yes, Chicago is a real example of the virtue of city living, and detroit. Boy oh boy they sure have it good in them there big cities...

I live in San ANtonio, which is growing way to big, can't wait till we move to small town USA, hate the city, with a passion.
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I will be very interesting in hearing how your new small town home welcomes the real YOU. I assume you'll feel free to be open with them. Do tell us about it when you get there.
 
calamity said:
Texas is a big state. If you are SW, you may not know just how bad the meth problem is in the NE part of your state. Actually, I'd say the entire rural eastern side is MethLand.

Life and Meth
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Drugs are in every State, including Blue States where violence attributed to the sale of drugs is currently out of control.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
I will be very interesting in hearing how your new small town home welcomes the real YOU. I assume you'll feel free to be open with them. Do tell us about it when you get there.
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The town we've chosen, was the first in that state to pass legal protections for LGTB folk, and is considered a very welcoming town, population 7,700
 
Zalatix said:
I refute you with this

Are 97 of the nation's 100 poorest counties in red states? | PolitiFact

And then your arguments go right into the trash.

Have a nice day!
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I'm not sure just what your point is.


Our ruling
The meme said that "97 percent of the 100 poorest counties in America are in red states." According to the most recent data, that’s a few percentage points high, but not by much.
However, measuring a county’s lack of affluence this way skews the map of poorest places toward rural states (which tend to be red) and away from big cities (which tend to be blue). This undercuts the simplicity of the meme’s political message.
The statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, so we rate it Mostly True.
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You have found a liberal meme that is "mostly true."
 
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