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Why do many Liberals advocate political violence?

SCitizen said:
Many Liberals on Social Media advocate punching those they disagree with. A very respectable Liberal media source Everyday Feminism advocates violence. Just is two days on Twitter I have been threatened with being burned and crushed.

Why do #notallliberals not accept that those who hold different opinions have Freedom to express their opinions?
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Why don't you ask senator Gianforte and all those voters in Montana who elected him?
 
SCitizen said:
Definitely -- Political Violence was not the intention of Freedom of Speech.
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Some on the far left do believe in violence.

That goes right back through Vietnam to the union violence of the 1870s to 1930s.

On the other hand, government and business always worked together to suppress workers just demands for good pay and safe working conditions.
 
ataraxia said:
So Trump had offered to pay the legal fees of liberals who hurt protestors at his rallies? Cool.
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Soros has actually paid a salary to protesters who commit violence.

Hillary's election campaign was intimately connected to organizations and people who paid protesters to disrupt and cause violence.

So don't tell me about some smart-ass remark Trump made. It pales in comparison.
 
Mycroft said:
Soros has actually paid a salary to protesters who commit violence.

Hillary's election campaign was intimately connected to organizations and people who paid protesters to disrupt and cause violence.

So don't tell me about some smart-ass remark Trump made. It pales in comparison.
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Sources?
 
Ikari said:
How many "liberals" are there? How many have engaged or advocated violence?

I know, sweeping generalizations are fun, but do you have any statistics to back it up?
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What, you don't remember the Trump election violence, where liberals went on a rampage, broke windows and spray painted threats of violence on public property? I mean, Black Lives Matter and Antifa anyone?

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I see it didn't take long for this thread to devolve into "liberals enjoy setting people on fire."
 
Kobie said:
I see it didn't take long for this thread to devolve into "liberals enjoy setting people on fire."
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When you can't argue issues, what do you have left?
 
Redress said:
Ah, so you use it to smear a group of people you disagree with, because it is easier than actually arguing policy.
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Moderate Liberals advocate many policies which I support 100%. Like Welfare, Universal Healthcare, high minimum wage and guaranteed jobs.

Some extremist Liberal groups like some Antifa and Anarchist and Communist groups believe in violence as policy.
 
Ikari said:
How many "liberals" are there? How many have engaged or advocated violence?
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I do not know how many. I know there are some fractions like some Anarchist groups which believe in violence as strategy.

Communist literature has lots of theory on why terrorism is acceptable for a right cause.
 
SCitizen said:
I do not know how many. I know there are some fractions like some Anarchist groups which believe in violence as strategy.

Communist literature has lots of theory on why terrorism is acceptable for a right cause.
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Neither anarchy nor Communism is "liberal."
 
Unhinged Activists Never Enter the 'Real World'
David French, National Review

 ". . . Conservatives tend to respond to incidents like this by rolling their eyes, calling the students “snowflakes” (a term many on the right need to stop using, given their own hysterical reactions to leftist critiques), and relishing their inevitable education in the so-called “real world.” The presumption is simple — these kinds of antics won’t fly when they’re trying to sell insurance or write code or balance a company’s budget. The “real world” is a harsh teacher, and soon they’ll have to grow up.

This response, however, is fundamentally wrong. For the most committed campus radical, the “real world” doesn’t await; a lifetime of activism does. They’ll move seamlessly from academia into government, art, and politics, and sometimes right back into academia.

Remember Emma Sulkowicz? She’s the former Columbia University student who carried a mattress on her back to protest the university’s handling of her sexual-assault claim against a fellow student. The university found her alleged attacker not responsible, and law enforcement refused to prosecute, but she insisted on his expulsion anyway. She was hailed from coast to coast by people with no first-hand knowledge of the incident and celebrated as a feminist hero. Shortly after attending the State of the Union address at the invitation of New York senator Kirsten Gillibrand, she filmed a pornographic depiction of her alleged rape. Now she’s a “performance artist living and working in New York City,” and in her latest piece she was “bound, berated, and hung from the ceiling” as some sort of comment on Donald Trump.

It’s easy to take your activism straight to work. Have you heard of Eric Clanton? He’s a college professor who was arrested for beating three people with a bike lock at a Trump rally in April. He’s apparently served as a part-time instructor at Diablo Valley College, teaching a class described as “introduction to philosophy with a background in teaching ethics, critical thinking, and comparative philosophy East/West.” Yes, even ethics professors are beating people with bike locks now. . . . "
 
Jack Hays said:
Unhinged Activists Never Enter the 'Real World'
David French, National Review

 ". . . Conservatives tend to respond to incidents like this by rolling their eyes, calling the students “snowflakes” (a term many on the right need to stop using, given their own hysterical reactions to leftist critiques), and relishing their inevitable education in the so-called “real world.” The presumption is simple — these kinds of antics won’t fly when they’re trying to sell insurance or write code or balance a company’s budget. The “real world” is a harsh teacher, and soon they’ll have to grow up.

This response, however, is fundamentally wrong. For the most committed campus radical, the “real world” doesn’t await; a lifetime of activism does. They’ll move seamlessly from academia into government, art, and politics, and sometimes right back into academia.

Remember Emma Sulkowicz? She’s the former Columbia University student who carried a mattress on her back to protest the university’s handling of her sexual-assault claim against a fellow student. The university found her alleged attacker not responsible, and law enforcement refused to prosecute, but she insisted on his expulsion anyway. She was hailed from coast to coast by people with no first-hand knowledge of the incident and celebrated as a feminist hero. Shortly after attending the State of the Union address at the invitation of New York senator Kirsten Gillibrand, she filmed a pornographic depiction of her alleged rape. Now she’s a “performance artist living and working in New York City,” and in her latest piece she was “bound, berated, and hung from the ceiling” as some sort of comment on Donald Trump.

It’s easy to take your activism straight to work. Have you heard of Eric Clanton? He’s a college professor who was arrested for beating three people with a bike lock at a Trump rally in April. He’s apparently served as a part-time instructor at Diablo Valley College, teaching a class described as “introduction to philosophy with a background in teaching ethics, critical thinking, and comparative philosophy East/West.” Yes, even ethics professors are beating people with bike locks now. . . . "
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Happy Sunday, Jack. :2wave:

Ethics only apply to the "other side!" :thumbdown
 
SCitizen said:
Moderate Liberals advocate many policies which I support 100%. Like Welfare, Universal Healthcare, high minimum wage and guaranteed jobs.

Some extremist Liberal groups like some Antifa and Anarchist and Communist groups believe in violence as policy.
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Those (bolded above) often tend to conflict with each other. For example, I will hire help only if I can pay that help at least $100/day and still make decent money on that job. If I were to raise that wage floor to $150/day then there would be far fewer days that I could afford to hire that help.
 
Cephus said:
What, you don't remember the Trump election violence, where liberals went on a rampage, broke windows and spray painted threats of violence on public property? I mean, Black Lives Matter and Antifa anyone?

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I just asked if anyone had the statistics to back it up, or if the violent actions remain a part of the few and not the many.

As I see, you too have none.
 
SCitizen said:
Because Liberals have used political violence -- especially this year.
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And Conservatives kill people. Where's your condemnation of that?
 
Ikari said:
I just asked if anyone had the statistics to back it up, or if the violent actions remain a part of the few and not the many.

As I see, you too have none.
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Where's his condemnation of the Conservative violence that precipitated that?

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Ikari said:
I just asked if anyone had the statistics to back it up, or if the violent actions remain a part of the few and not the many.

As I see, you too have none.
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What kind of statistics do you want? You've been given examples.
 
Cephus said:
What kind of statistics do you want? You've been given examples.
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There are X number of "liberals", there are Y number of liberals who engage in violent behavior. Is Y/X any significant fraction of the overall population? Is the violence retrained to the few or is it part of the many? The OP alleges it is part of the many, I just wanted the statistics to see if it were true.

Examples? I didn't ask for examples, I asked for statistics. You got numbers, or are we just playing partisan games?
 
Ikari said:
There are X number of "liberals", there are Y number of liberals who engage in violent behavior. Is Y/X any significant fraction of the overall population? Is the violence retrained to the few or is it part of the many? The OP alleges it is part of the many, I just wanted the statistics to see if it were true.
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Most Democrats would oppose violence. Some Anarchist/Communist/Antifa groups consider violence part of their strategy.
 
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