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White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriation
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Is it "cultural appropriation"? is it bad? is it a tool of "White supremacist culture"?
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
I say this:
Makes no ****ing sense whatsoever. What next, are they gonna say "if you're a white person, you have no business eating Asian, Latin, etc cuisines".? WTF is going on with the world today!?
I say this:
Makes no ****ing sense whatsoever. What next, are they gonna say "if you're a white person, you have no business eating Asian, Latin, etc cuisines".? WTF is going on with the world today!?
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
Deal. But non-white ethnic groups can't use white inventions such a refrigerators or microwaves when running their dining establishments because that would be appropriating inventions by white men.
Deal. But non-white ethnic groups can't use white inventions such a refrigerators or microwaves when running their dining establishments because that would be appropriating inventions by white men.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
I say it's such a bizarre concept that someone's going to burst out laughing and slapping their thighs, saying, "Boy, we sure had you going, didn't we?"
I say it's such a bizarre concept that someone's going to burst out laughing and slapping their thighs, saying, "Boy, we sure had you going, didn't we?"
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
And if you are a Mexican, you have no business cooking American food... "Uh... where are all our cooks today, boss?"
Typical California craziness, empowered by people as crazy as they are.
And if you are a Mexican, you have no business cooking American food... "Uh... where are all our cooks today, boss?"
Typical California craziness, empowered by people as crazy as they are.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
Not directly addressing the question above, but when I want ethnic food I go to an ethnic restaurant. The less English spoken, the better. Because I want the real deal.
But to answer the question: Who cares?
Not directly addressing the question above, but when I want ethnic food I go to an ethnic restaurant. The less English spoken, the better. Because I want the real deal.
But to answer the question: Who cares?
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
In NYC it's less important. Chinese makes bagels, Jews pizza, Italians well they have the mexicans make pizza.
SJW's, snowflakes, leftist PC warriors.
In NYC it's less important. Chinese makes bagels, Jews pizza, Italians well they have the mexicans make pizza.
SJW's, snowflakes, leftist PC warriors.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
The trick to finding, for example, a good Cuban restaurant isn't looking to see if the cooks and owner are Cuban. It is looking to see if the customers are Cuban.
The trick to finding, for example, a good Cuban restaurant isn't looking to see if the cooks and owner are Cuban. It is looking to see if the customers are Cuban.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
booooom!!!!!!
the trick to finding, for example, a good cuban restaurant isn't looking to see if the cooks and owner are cuban. It is looking to see if the customers are cuban.
booooom!!!!!!
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
I would post the list on the wall, wear it like a badge of honor and include a sales pitch in the menu for my culturally appropriated dishes. If I lived in Portand (I used to) I would put the appropriating restaurants at the top of my list for dinner venues. I think I'm going to retire outside the U.S. I hate what it is becoming.
I would post the list on the wall, wear it like a badge of honor and include a sales pitch in the menu for my culturally appropriated dishes. If I lived in Portand (I used to) I would put the appropriating restaurants at the top of my list for dinner venues. I think I'm going to retire outside the U.S. I hate what it is becoming.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
This kind of ridiculousness is why it's hard to take these SJA morons seriously.
This kind of ridiculousness is why it's hard to take these SJA morons seriously.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
From article in post #1:
They can keep that philosophical worldview in Oregon.
I'm pleased with the diverse and robust culinary and cocktail scene that has emerged over the years in Milwaukee. While the city is too small to be analogous to heavy weights in the scenes like New York City, Chicago, and San Fransisco it has (along with Madison, Wisconsin) developed itself as a strong contender in its lower weight class, like a Floyd Mayweather. Fighting for a "Pound-For-Pound" recognition.
In my layman view that can only happen--particularly in today's culinary scene--by opening yourself "to the world" so to speak. And let's not forget a lot of the West's culinary tradition has been deeply influenced by France. Does not matter if you are a Black-American or Asian-American, if in culinary school, because a significant portion of your training will have French influence.
(The whole Michelin Star system is French rooted. Which has a lot to do with white table clothes, how you are served, and several course meals. In the USA it's bigger in places like New York City. In Milwaukee it is of little importance as the new chefs do things their way, less traditional, and place more emphasis on the American James Beard Award [which in the USA is like the Oscars of Food/Chefs].)
And a lot of serious chefs move around. Not that it is 100% necessary nor that all great chefs do or have done it, but a vast portion of them do. So, a lot of Milwaukee's greatest chefs have spent years cooking in Europe, Latin America, and big American culinary cities like NYC, Chicago, and San Fransico. Or a few even in Japan I think.
Case in point this white American young man that opened his own restaurant finally. During the nights of the weekends he turns lights red and serves traditional Japanese ramen noodles. The guy grew up on a farm in small white, Wisconsin town of less than 5,000 people. But he trained in Milwaukee at a Japanese Sushi restaurant. He worked elsewhere too. I think maybe in Chicago if I remember. Don't remember if he went to Japan or not or merely visited.
Back when he worked at a Japanese sushi restaurant in Milwaukee.
At his own restaurant he opened.
A young Black-American chef placed as head chef of a steak house in Milwaukee. A fine dining steak house. (My layman presumption is this steak scene is influenced from Western Europe, Japan, and possibly Gaucho regions of Latin America. I could be wrong on that latter part. It's an assumption.)
From article in post #1:
They can keep that philosophical worldview in Oregon.
I'm pleased with the diverse and robust culinary and cocktail scene that has emerged over the years in Milwaukee. While the city is too small to be analogous to heavy weights in the scenes like New York City, Chicago, and San Fransisco it has (along with Madison, Wisconsin) developed itself as a strong contender in its lower weight class, like a Floyd Mayweather. Fighting for a "Pound-For-Pound" recognition.
In my layman view that can only happen--particularly in today's culinary scene--by opening yourself "to the world" so to speak. And let's not forget a lot of the West's culinary tradition has been deeply influenced by France. Does not matter if you are a Black-American or Asian-American, if in culinary school, because a significant portion of your training will have French influence.
(The whole Michelin Star system is French rooted. Which has a lot to do with white table clothes, how you are served, and several course meals. In the USA it's bigger in places like New York City. In Milwaukee it is of little importance as the new chefs do things their way, less traditional, and place more emphasis on the American James Beard Award [which in the USA is like the Oscars of Food/Chefs].)
And a lot of serious chefs move around. Not that it is 100% necessary nor that all great chefs do or have done it, but a vast portion of them do. So, a lot of Milwaukee's greatest chefs have spent years cooking in Europe, Latin America, and big American culinary cities like NYC, Chicago, and San Fransico. Or a few even in Japan I think.
Case in point this white American young man that opened his own restaurant finally. During the nights of the weekends he turns lights red and serves traditional Japanese ramen noodles. The guy grew up on a farm in small white, Wisconsin town of less than 5,000 people. But he trained in Milwaukee at a Japanese Sushi restaurant. He worked elsewhere too. I think maybe in Chicago if I remember. Don't remember if he went to Japan or not or merely visited.
Back when he worked at a Japanese sushi restaurant in Milwaukee.
At his own restaurant he opened.
A young Black-American chef placed as head chef of a steak house in Milwaukee. A fine dining steak house. (My layman presumption is this steak scene is influenced from Western Europe, Japan, and possibly Gaucho regions of Latin America. I could be wrong on that latter part. It's an assumption.)
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
I say the people slamming this restaurant are bleep bleep bleeeeeeeeping idiots.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
It's noble to try and improve the number of ethnic and minorities businesses.
It's absurd IMO to bully in an effort to do it.
If instead of this, they tried to help just one ethnic person to have a successful business launch, I think their type, and ethics, would be better spent.
It's noble to try and improve the number of ethnic and minorities businesses.
It's absurd IMO to bully in an effort to do it.
If instead of this, they tried to help just one ethnic person to have a successful business launch, I think their type, and ethics, would be better spent.
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Re: White-Owned Restaurants Shamed for Serving Ethnic Food: It's Cultural Appropriati
Another example, albeit it's white Americans traveling to a white European country: Spain.
As Anthony Bourdain the famous chef and TV personality from New York City has pointed out, Spain has been pushing France aside lately to really make a big impact and impression on the culinary scene of today.
All that said... as with Mexican food some niches will be filled with the ethnic people from that tradition doing the cooking and owning the business. Such as with food trucks. At least with the Mexican food food trucks. But even among food trucks you have people that may mix up different ethnic things. The food truck issue locally is not about race or white people "unfairly cooking other races foods" but rather banning them from x number of locations.
Another example, albeit it's white Americans traveling to a white European country: Spain.
As Anthony Bourdain the famous chef and TV personality from New York City has pointed out, Spain has been pushing France aside lately to really make a big impact and impression on the culinary scene of today.
All that said... as with Mexican food some niches will be filled with the ethnic people from that tradition doing the cooking and owning the business. Such as with food trucks. At least with the Mexican food food trucks. But even among food trucks you have people that may mix up different ethnic things. The food truck issue locally is not about race or white people "unfairly cooking other races foods" but rather banning them from x number of locations.