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Trump Reveals Location Of U.S. Nuke Subs To President of Phillipines

Captain Adverse said:
1. Both China and (within it's more limited capability) North Korea are ALWAYS seeking the location of foreign military assets in their backyards...and the seas are fairly vast.

2. Who says that if this story is true, it means that we ONLY have TWO nuclear submarines operating in that area?

3. Trump may have been just been blowing smoke, since Duterte has been making noises of drifting toward a closer Chinese connection.

Again, despite all attempts to make this a "horrible case of giving away classified information," it is just another tempest in a teapot as Trump revealed nothing anyone would not expect to know anyway.
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Let me explain to you the reality of the situation.

China gathers an ocean of sensor data. They don't necessarily know how many subs there are, which makes the data rather difficult to develop an appropriate filter for. How do they discern a submarine from sensor noise?

Now, China can look at the sensor data around the time of the phone call and use that data to improve their counter-submarine capabilities.

And yes, if President Trump says there are two stationed off the coast of North Korea, that implies there are only two. If there were 8, he could have blurted out 8, but he didn't.

Further, rather than debate the seriousness of the disclosure (not terribly serious), you seem to absolve President Trump of having any responsibility for the carelessness of his own behavior. We don't generally publish submarine movements and deployments because their secrecy helps keep them (and by extension us) safe. Do you really think President Trump checked with his advisors to see if this disclosure was kosher first? I don't. I think he's a loose cannon.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Ah, yes. Yet more rather pathetic rationalizing away of yet more proof of Trump's utter incompetence and ineptitude.
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I believe you honestly think that because opponents eventually stop responding to your posts it must be due to some insightful or telling "witticism" that wins the argument.

I think it is more likely due to the reason I seldom do...explained in my tagline. :coffeepap:
 
Captain Adverse said:
I believe you honestly think that because opponents eventually stop responding to your posts it must be due to some insightful or telling "witticism" that wins the argument.
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I wasn't trying to win an argument. I simply made an observation. You seem unable to distinguish between the two. Oh, well.
I think it is more likely due to the reason I seldom do...explained in my tagline. :coffeepap:
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Yawn.
 
Absentglare said:
Let me explain to you the reality of the situation.

China gathers an ocean of sensor data. They don't necessarily know how many subs there are, which makes the data rather difficult to develop an appropriate filter for. How do they discern a submarine from sensor noise?

Now, China can look at the sensor data around the time of the phone call and use that data to improve their counter-submarine capabilities.

And yes, if President Trump says there are two stationed off the coast of North Korea, that implies there are only two. If there were 8, he could have blurted out 8, but he didn't.

Further, rather than debate the seriousness of the disclosure (not terribly serious), you seem to absolve President Trump of having any responsibility for the carelessness of his own behavior. We don't generally publish submarine movements and deployments because their secrecy helps keep them (and by extension us) safe. Do you really think President Trump checked with his advisors to see if this disclosure was kosher first? I don't. I think he's a loose cannon.
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Learn to read for content. I already responded to every one of these counter-points in the original response.

The fact that you disagree with my points is, of course, your privilege. :shrug:
 
Captain Adverse said:
Learn to read for content. I already responded to every one of these counter-points in the original response.

The fact that you disagree with my points is, of course, your privilege. :shrug:
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Lol, no you didn't. Perhaps you should re-read my post and see if you can muster an actual rebuttal instead of another forfeit like the above.
 
Absentglare said:
Are you two joking? Your case is just so stupid.

You think the president of the Philippines knows how many nuclear submarines the US has stationed off the coast of North Korea? ... how? Magic?

We don't freely tell people where our submarines are. That's because submarines are more discrete than carriers or larger strike groups.



https://www.buzzfeed.com/nancyyouss...-disclosure-of?utm_term=.cqGAG000A#.qf0OA444O

And this is from a president that tries to turn his unpredictable ineptitude as some sort of upside, as though it's important for other nations to not know our military plans. So why did he choose to give him specific details for no discernible reason...?
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I understand you do not really understand military matters. You did not need to show it. Here, let me help: we have 14 boomers. That means that, in Asian waters, we have somewhere between 2 and 5ish actually out at any time. As a simple glance at a map will show you, that is alot of water. It helps to know something about what you talk about, and you should pretty much never use buzzfeed as a source...
 
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