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How Do We Stop The Recruitment Of Terrorists?

Tigerace117 said:
No, as I just pointed out in past decades it is incredibly, blatantly, false.
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What IRA or Puerto Rican terrorist events have happened lately?
 
phattonez said:
Kick out the refugees, residents, etc. We're not going to be kicking out citizens, but it's become totally clear that Islam cannot coexist with the West.
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Have you read the Old Testament? That **** aint compatible with our values either.
 
Deuce said:
Have you read the Old Testament? That **** aint compatible with our values either.
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So are you saying that Jews are incompatible with the West?
 
faithful_servant said:
Take out the leadership, then replace it with people who understand that terrorism is bad for Islam. This means being willing to tell ANY notion that supports terrorism than we will "show up on their front step" with a gun in hand to remove those who are terrorist leaders. But we also have to be VERY specific in who we target. No shotgun style attacks where the non-combatant deaths out number the terrorists. We need to get liberals to stop defending terrorists and making excuses for them (see 4th generation warfare).
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Take out leadership, impose our own chosen dictator on people. That always worked out so ****ing well int he past.

Liberals aren't "defending terrorists," you just lied to everyone. Why would you lie like that?
 
Deuce said:
If "being tough" results in more casualties... why am I supporting this again?
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You don't support inflicting more casualties on the terrorists?
 
Deuce said:
Take out leadership, impose our own chosen dictator on people. That always worked out so ****ing well int he past.

Liberals aren't "defending terrorists," you just lied to everyone. Why would you lie like that?
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I think we should take out leadership, let whoever wants it step in. Hard to hide in civilian neighborhoods when you're the ruler. Then we take out that leadership, and let whoever wants it step in. Then repeat.

We don't occupy, we don't bomb areas with civilians. We just kill anyone that tries to form a government at all. Like cracking a whip, in and out.
 
phattonez said:
What IRA or Puerto Rican terrorist events have happened lately?
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The IRA didn't conduct terrorist attacks in the United States bud. Clearly your knowledge of history is lacking.

But that doesn't surprise me given that you are totally ignorant of the fact that people other than Arabs have conducted terrorist attacks in this country.
 
Deuce said:
Take out leadership, impose our own chosen dictator on people. That always worked out so ****ing well int he past.

Liberals aren't "defending terrorists," you just lied to everyone. Why would you lie like that?
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It has worked well, when it was followed up. In Iraq, we eviscerated the leadership of AQI and the recruiting of new followers by AQI by using this kind of approach. It was the failure to follow it up that caused those efforts to come to naught.

I didn't lie. EVERY time there is a terrorist attack by an Islamic terrorist, the liberals come out in force with comments that try to apologize for the terrorist, usually by blaming "the west" and America for creating them. It's easy to see if you are willing to do so.
 
phattonez said:
So are you saying that Jews are incompatible with the West?
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No, that appears to be what you are saying. This is your standard, after all. Their book says some incompatible things, so we have to kick as many out as possible.

Unless... wait, no. Are you applying a different standard to Muslims than you do to Jews?
 
faithful_servant said:
It has worked well, when it was followed up. In Iraq, we eviscerated the leadership of AQI and the recruiting of new followers by AQI by using this kind of approach. It was the failure to follow it up that caused those efforts to come to naught.

I didn't lie. EVERY time there is a terrorist attack by an Islamic terrorist, the liberals come out in force with comments that try to apologize for the terrorist, usually by blaming "the west" and America for creating them. It's easy to see if you are willing to do so.
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More laughable lies.

America has played a role in shaping the middle-east, and that includes some of the strife there. Admitting that history exists is not "apologizing for the terrorists," that's a lie.

You people will never figure out how to reduce the spread of terrorism because you actively resist understanding terrorism. How do you sit there and pretend to know how to solve a problem when you don't want to know how it started in the first place?
 
Serenity said:
I refuse to watch/share IS propoganda. Their PR strategy has been effective and elaborate for years and it’s been a key part of their massive rise to global infamy. I have no desire to help them spread their propoganda. I absolutely support discussions relating to the threat that IS pose and the reporting and sharing of information associated with them, everyone should be paying attention to what the current situation is, but i simply will not aid them by spreading their heinous propaganda and buoying their cause.

Shut down all social media outlets who share and promote extremist propoganda. Every time I raise this I get hit back with freedom of speech crap and other nonsense. Choudary springs to mind here. For years he skated along the boundary between freedom of speech and incitement to violence. No right comes wholly without restriction and nor should it. In Choudary’s case, the right to free expression should not extend to advocating support for Islamic State and encouraging participation in the well known violence they engage in because it ultimately impinges on the rights of those who wish to live without fear of attack or persecution by those nutters.

Their right to life is bigger than Choudary's "right" to encourage his puppets to take others lives. Shut them all down. Immediately.
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Choudary was subject to British laws. In this country, that "freedom of speech crap" allows people, within limits established by the Supreme Court, to advocate violence. That is just as it should be, and we are not about to do away with a fundamental constitutional right to aid the fight against Islamic jihadists.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The IRA didn't conduct terrorist attacks in the United States bud. Clearly your knowledge of history is lacking.

But that doesn't surprise me given that you are totally ignorant of the fact that people other than Arabs have conducted terrorist attacks in this country.
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I know you want to celebrate the fact that you think you're right, but try answering the question. Nowhere did I say I was exclusively talking about the US.
 
Deuce said:
No, that appears to be what you are saying. This is your standard, after all. Their book says some incompatible things, so we have to kick as many out as possible.

Unless... wait, no. Are you applying a different standard to Muslims than you do to Jews?
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You were the one saying that the Old Testament was incompatible, not me.
 
Deuce said:
More laughable lies.

America has played a role in shaping the middle-east, and that includes some of the strife there. Admitting that history exists is not "apologizing for the terrorists," that's a lie.

You people will never figure out how to reduce the spread of terrorism because you actively resist understanding terrorism. How do you sit there and pretend to know how to solve a problem when you don't want to know how it started in the first place?
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..and that is how apologizing for terrorists is done. You refuse to accept that the terrorists are in an specific emotional and political position and that terrorism comes from that position. We have to address what is as our first priority and while we're doing that, address the actions that brought them to that place. Apologists like yourself seem to think that if all of America sent a big Hallmark card to Islam apologizing for making them hate us, that all the terrorism will end. What you fail to understand is that we aren't dealing with a Western mindset, but rather an Arab/Persian one. I have a friend who was born and raised in Iran ("I'm a Persian, not a damn Iranian!") who explained the Persian/Arab mindset to me. They respect power and when they see weakness, they work to take advantage of it if they have a reason to do so. Once they start down that road, they'll often pursue it even to their destruction. When we put the cease-fire in Iraq in place and then refused to enforce it (thank you W. Clinton), we were seen as weak. When the Taliban first attacked the WTC and ti was treated like a criminal offence, instead of an act of war, we were seen as weak (again, thank you W. Clinton). That meant that groups like the Taliban and Al Queda saw attacking us as an acceptable venue for their anger. If we had stomped on Iraq and the Taliban hard, they would backed off and backed off fast, since they would have seen that we were more powerful than they were (having power but refusing to use is seen as pretty much the epitome of weakness). Remember, this what I learned from a PERSIAN, not from some dimwitted Harvard college professor. I also have a great-uncle who was literally on the last bus out of Tehran when the Shah fell (he worked for the State Dept. there as a cultural attache and general trouble-shooter) and he said pretty much the same thing. So before you start throwing accusations of not understanding the people who are attacking us, you might want to find out just how little you really know...
 
Deuce said:
Take out leadership, impose our own chosen dictator on people. That always worked out so ****ing well int he past.

Liberals aren't "defending terrorists," you just lied to everyone. Why would you lie like that?
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I tend to agree with the poster. From what I have seen, many people who identify themselves as "liberals" or "leftists," in the U.S. and elsewhere, have regularly carried water for Islamists. Andy McCarthy, who played a leading role in the prosecution of Islamists involved in the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 and in plots against other major targets in New York which followed that attack, takes the same view. He has documented this unholy alliance in an excellent book entitled "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America."
 
phattonez said:
I know you want to celebrate the fact that you think you're right, but try answering the question. Nowhere did I say I was exclusively talking about the US.
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Worldwide is the same story. You know zero about the history of terrorism or you'd realize how ignorant your claim is.
 
faithful_servant said:
..and that is how apologizing for terrorists is done. You refuse to accept that the terrorists are in an specific emotional and political position and that terrorism comes from that position. We have to address what is as our first priority and while we're doing that, address the actions that brought them to that place. Apologists like yourself seem to think that if all of America sent a big Hallmark card to Islam apologizing for making them hate us, that all the terrorism will end. What you fail to understand is that we aren't dealing with a Western mindset, but rather an Arab/Persian one. I have a friend who was born and raised in Iran ("I'm a Persian, not a damn Iranian!") who explained the Persian/Arab mindset to me. They respect power and when they see weakness, they work to take advantage of it if they have a reason to do so. Once they start down that road, they'll often pursue it even to their destruction. When we put the cease-fire in Iraq in place and then refused to enforce it (thank you W. Clinton), we were seen as weak. When the Taliban first attacked the WTC and ti was treated like a criminal offence, instead of an act of war, we were seen as weak (again, thank you W. Clinton). That meant that groups like the Taliban and Al Queda saw attacking us as an acceptable venue for their anger. If we had stomped on Iraq and the Taliban hard, they would backed off and backed off fast, since they would have seen that we were more powerful than they were (having power but refusing to use is seen as pretty much the epitome of weakness). Remember, this what I learned from a PERSIAN, not from some dimwitted Harvard college professor. I also have a great-uncle who was literally on the last bus out of Tehran when the Shah fell (he worked for the State Dept. there as a cultural attache and general trouble-shooter) and he said pretty much the same thing. So before you start throwing accusations of not understanding the people who are attacking us, you might want to find out just how little you really know...
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Can it be long before we are treated to the hoary canard that easing Mr. Mossadeq from power in 1953 started all our present troubles? As this tired piece of propaganda would have it, the U.S. itself is to blame (no surprise there) for the rise of Islamic jihad. From what I've seen, many people who dislike this country--even though they choose to live in it--are fond of this fairly tale. With its anti-capitalist, anti-Western flavor--Britain and the U.S. teaming up to force the fascist Shah on the poor Iranian people to help out a powerful oil company--it smacks of a KGB production from the 1950's or '60's.
 
volsrock said:
Cut off all I mean ALL.... machinery, iron, steel, transport vehicles, electrical machinery, tools and appliances. Motor Vehicle Parts

Cell Phones Medicines Air Conditioners and parts

No higher education offered in any Western Country! No Med School

Take Irans satellite out shut it down

And YES BAN Muslim VISA's
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This would work wonders if your goal was to make more terrorists.
 
Geoist said:
Wasn't that called the War on Terror? Didn't see much of a drop in terrorism from that. Actually, it skyrocketed.

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Violation of the 4th Amendment. Why do you hate the Constitution?
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We called it a war on terror but it wasn't a war on anything. I'm talking about a serious war. I love the constitution. I think we need to find recruitment at the source. You must also disapprove of the government investigating businesses, charities, professional practices, universities etc. etc. Why do you love terrorists?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Worldwide is the same story. You know zero about the history of terrorism or you'd realize how ignorant your claim is.
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So what group has been committing terrorist attacks worldwide lately besides Muslims?
 
phattonez said:
So what group has been committing terrorist attacks worldwide lately besides Muslims?
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Oh, you've got various nationalistic militia groups here or there.......and historically you've got a huge variety of causes.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Oh, you've got various nationalistic militia groups here or there.......and historically you've got a huge variety of causes.
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To which various ones do you refer?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Oh, you've got various nationalistic militia groups here or there.......and historically you've got a huge variety of causes.
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And how many are out there committing mass violence?
 
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