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Fox News recants Seth Rich story

iguanaman said:
Brennan was head of the CIA not in the media. Are you calling him treasonous for reporting multiple suspicious and possibly treasonous contacts with known Russian agents by high level Trump campaign members?
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No. Please improve your reading comprehension. From my post, I was clearly reserving that to the media's behavior.

How do you think the CIA found out about this and remember this was before the DNC hack? Hint: It is the CIA's job to monitor Russian espionage activity. And why do you think these contacts were made in secret and were repeatedly denied to have happened? All I can tell you is that if Trump is innocent he certainly has a strange way of showing it.
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If by "strange way of showing it" you are referring to the typical multiple contacts with the Russians (and other nations) of campaigns in the general, and yes, Hillary campaign as well, your political, partisan hypocrisy is showing again.
 
JackA said:
Fairly reporting the missteps of a fool is negative but not biased.
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As made out to be one by the media.

Sure, there are missteps. Sure, they are times when Trump shoots himself (or more often his staff) in the feet. Doesn't necessarily make him a fool.

The negative media portrayal is doing that, and since the vast majority of journalists live and work in the liberal / progressive ideal bubble that is the echo chamber (I'll Tweet about your story if you Tweet about my story, etc. etc.) it just feeds on itself and builds.
 
calamity said:
"Hold on tight to that dream."

Brennan's testimony yesterday was devastating. Of course, if it perpetuates that dream, you can spin it into "nothing new here." But, that would be like that guy outside the bar in Florida who jumped into the lake last year saying, "**** the alligators."
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I think the 'dream' here is Trump / Russian Collusion. Mind you, not Trump / Russian contact or Hillary / Russian contact. Trump / Russian Collusion.

From what's been quoted from Brennan's testimony, seems he was more so referring to 'contact', and not 'collusion'. From the sound bite I heard, Brennan was pushing back 'Collusion, your word', IIRC.

In the end, it's what Mueller's going to find and conclude in his investigation, not necessarily what Brennan, or any other single witness or any other single testimony says.
 
The Seth CTists are indifferent to the grief they add to the young man's family having to endure the baseless exploitation of his death.

Second observation: if it's stories of juicy political murder these guys like they might try reading up on how their leader's favorite dictator goes about dealing with the opposition. An added benefit is this one doesn't require fantasizing.
 
calamity said:
"Hold on tight to that dream."

Brennan's testimony yesterday was devastating. Of course, if it perpetuates that dream, you can spin it into "nothing new here." But, that would be like that guy outside the bar in Florida who jumped into the lake last year saying, "**** the alligators."
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“I saw interaction,” Brennan said not answering the question, “but I don’t know. I don’t have sufficient information to make a determination whether or not there was cooperation or complicity or collusion.”

I guess you don't know what "devastating" means.
 
JasperL said:
That's nonsense. Seth Rich was obviously set up in a false flag operation by Trump operatives, and murdered with the intent to frame Hillary for it. So the focus must be on Trump and/or the RNC who are clearly the likely perps in this story. It makes no sense for the DNC to murder Seth Rich since the emails had already been leaked. What does make sense is the Trump campaign had the Russians hack the DNC, plant evidence on Rich's computer that he leaked them, then kill him and wait for the police to find the fake incriminating evidence. This is so obvious, can't believe you don't see it.
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Since it is so obvious, then you must be able to show us all here proof of your accusations, right?
 
eohrnberger said:
“I saw interaction,” Brennan said not answering the question, “but I don’t know. I don’t have sufficient information to make a determination whether or not there was cooperation or complicity or collusion.”

I guess you don't know what "devastating" means.
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He basically said that it was not his job to make that determination. It was the FBI's job. But, you can ignore the fact that the CIA handed over to the FBI information that Trump operatives were communicating with Russian spies. I'm sure it makes you feel better while you focus on fake murder conspiracies :lol:
 
JasperL said:
I disagree!! That just confirms my theory Trump's people did it - my guess is Flynn had it done through his contacts with ex special forces guys. We need a special investigator assigned just to any and all ties between Trump and his people and Seth Rich to clear them of wrongdoing. No one has said yet if there were any emails to and from Flynn or maybe a dummy account he set up. We need to know that I think! We also need a complete audit of Flynn's phone, computers and all known bank accounts although if he paid a hit man it was probably from an untraceable overseas account. He's no dummy.

FWIW, I think by "not saying we know this for sure" you mean "this theory was pulled entirely from the rear end of a crazy person spreading baseless rumors for fun or profit." There is exactly as much evidence for your theory as there is for mine.
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What do you mean by theory and I guess now?

You said in a previous post that it was obvious.

That means you have evidence of what happened.

Please share that with the rest of us.
 
Mason66 said:
Since it is so obvious, then you must be able to show us all here proof of your accusations, right?
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Well, I have lots of proof according to the evidentiary standards of the Seth Rich story being advanced by right wingers. The proof I have exactly matches the proof in both amount and quality that you or anyone else has that the DNC and/or Hillary or someone working on their behalf had Rich murdered.
 
Cardinal said:
While it's sickening that Fox would have led with such a story in the first place, it's almost as sickening as this half-recantation after it was shown to be fake. Their statement allows Fox News to walk both sides of the line: appear to correct the record while still leaving the door wide open for their viewers to claim that the story still has feet.




Statement on coverage of Seth Rich murder investigation | Fox News

No, Fox News, the problem wasn't that you didn't use "high degrees of editorial scrutiny," it's that you lied. And now that you put out a conspiracy theory that will never die, you're putting on a veneer of respectability with this retraction that no one is buying.
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So now suddenly you are concerned with "#fakenews"....
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So now suddenly you are concerned with "#fakenews"....
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So far as I've been able to put together, Republicans have held onto the Seth Rich story as some form of revenge for the ongoing Russian investigations by the FBI, independent counsel and the two Senate committees, as well as for the press reporting on those investigations.
 
I haven't read ever post yet, but is there a single conservative on this thread that has accepted that this story is on it's death bed with an audible flatline beep echoing through the halls? Has anyone on the conservative side stepped up and admitted that this conspiracy theory is over and that this kids family don't deserve to be hearing lies about their son? Can we at least agree on this?
 
Mason66 said:
What do you mean by theory and I guess now?

You said in a previous post that it was obvious.

That means you have evidence of what happened.

Please share that with the rest of us.
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I have shared the same level of evidence Sean (Dumbest man on Television) Hannity has that the DNC did it.
 
Cardinal said:
So far as I've been able to put together, Republicans have held onto the Seth Rich story as some form of revenge for the ongoing Russian investigations by the FBI, independent counsel and the two Senate committees, as well as for the press reporting on those investigations.
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Bout the same amount of actual evidence,,,,,
 
calamity said:
He basically said that it was not his job to make that determination. It was the FBI's job. But, you can ignore the fact that the CIA handed over to the FBI information that Trump operatives were communicating with Russian spies. I'm sure it makes you feel better while you focus on fake murder conspiracies :lol:
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Once again, you overstate my position so as to not only to create a false narrative but also to bolster your already weak position.

I left both investigations and allegations, Russian / Trump collusion AND the Seth Rich murder at 'Show me evidence'.

To date, no evidence has been uncovered, reported, or testified to for the Trump / Russian collusion that has you salivating.

There is some evidence that Russia used the media, RT for one, to promulgate political propaganda but the efficacy of this yet t be determined or not existent (i.e. this didn't have am impact on the election results).

As I stated previous, there are some troubling questions about the Rich murder, and it's apparent lack of investigation as well as it being labeled as a robbery when nothing was taken from Rich.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Bout the same amount of actual evidence,,,,,
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As I thought. The fact that your defense for a conspiracy theory is that you believe something else to be a conspiracy theory does not reflect well on you.
 
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