Trump's Losing Support With Everyone: Including Republicans Close to 1/4 Disapprove

Jetboogieman said:

Like... For example...

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Jetboogieman said:

Like... For example...

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Captain Adverse said:

I expressed a personal opinion based on personal observations of her health and demeanor during the campaign season.

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Captain Adverse said:

First, I find this video analysis compelling:



This gentleman has years of experience dealing with Parkinson's Disease. According to him, Ms. Clinton appears to be exhibiting most of the symptoms of Parkinson's Disease, which he points out via examples.

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MrPeanut said:

Trump is a salesman. I think a lot of people are coming around to the fact that he isn't actually doing what he said during the election. He promised health care for all and then pushed the AHCA, he promised to "drain the swamp" and then immediately hired people from Goldman Sachs, jobs were going to come back in a gigantic way and then there was no noticeable change in job gains. Granted, the jobs thing will still require time to truly analyze, but I can understand why people don't believe in him anymore.

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Captain Adverse said:

Not quite.

I expressed a personal opinion based on personal observations of her health and demeanor during the campaign season.

She is no longer in the public eye, is she? So who knows what her medical condition and/or current treatment's might be? Time will tell. :coffeepap:

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Chomsky said:

There's numbers that impact the long-term, and numbers that impact the short.

The immediate numbers that can effect Trump are GOP rank & file approval. If he's strong within them (he is), then he is immune to any immediate threats to his Presidency, legislation, or agenda. With strong rank & file numbers, the GOP establishment will never move against him, and he is essential immovable. The Dems of course, are completely impotent against him. He will last his term, unless they (GOP rank & file) turn against him. As of now, his support is still very strong there - in the mid 80's.

Then, there's the longer term. I too have seen his numbers slip amongst the Indies, and that (if it continues) bids him vulnerability in 2020 for re-election. Besides turning out one's base, nothing sways elections more than Independents. So he has a problem here, especially consider he barely squeaked-by in 2016, and I suspect the Dem base is going to be a bit more active due to anti-Trumpism.

So in essence, his popularity amongst the GOP will determine his intra-term fate; his popularity amongst the Indies will determine his inter-term fate. He has no immediate problems (yet), but he is looking at possible re-election problems.

That's my opinion.

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Jetboogieman said:

"Yeah I'm a Trump supporter, yes I'm attacking people for buying into propaganda and yes I did buy into propaganda myself, but that's different because it was my... wait for it, personal opinion" :lamo, yes, personal opinion right champ:

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Captain Adverse said:

After a recent video showing Hillary near-collapsing during a 9/11 even, a report went out she is suffering from Pneumonia. Many supporters are grasping at this straw to keep from sinking under the manifest weight of evidence indicating that even if true, this is merely a symptom of a much more serious medical issue.

First, I find this video analysis compelling:

This gentleman has years of experience dealing with Parkinson's Disease. According to him, Ms. Clinton appears to be exhibiting most of the symptoms of Parkinson's Disease, which he points out via examples.

The doctor also points out that the symptoms include loss of automatic movements, as well as difficulty swallowing (or dysphagia) causing food to stick in the throat or liquids going the wrong way. The symptoms may also include Dysarthria.

These symptoms can eventually cause "Aspiration Pneumonia." Meaning that Ms. Clinton's doctor may not be lying about her currently suffering from "pneumonia," but it is only a partial truth hiding the real truth of a more serious condition she wants to keep hidden from the electorate.

This second video shows that Ms. Clinton's coughing issues have been around at least since 2008:

Now is anyone REALLY going to argue she has been suffering from pneumonia for eight years?

Finally, this last video of her recent incident on 9/11/16 indicates there is something else going on...perhaps even evidence of a hidden catheter which adds further support to the Parkinson's hypothesis.

There is something physically wrong with Ms. Clinton, whether Parkinson's or some other major problem, but it isn't a simple case of pneumonia. Talk about heads in the sand. :roll:

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Jetboogieman said:

"Yeah I'm a Trump supporter, yes I'm attacking people for buying into propaganda and yes I did buy into propaganda myself, but that's different because it was my... wait for it, personal opinion" :lamo, yes, personal opinion right champ:

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Captain Adverse said:

Always remember to quote accurately:

So yes, I was offering MY personal opinion based on clear evidence available to anyone. She was exhibiting signs of an ongoing problem, signs evident over eight years. Not being a medical practitioner means my layman's opinion has about as much merit as anyone else's opinion.

Again, since she has been out of the picture for several months and is no longer the focus of public attention, we may never know until some future date if there was or was not a problem.

Meanwhile, this has nothing to do with the OP, and is one of your typical red herring arguments. :roll:

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iguanaman said:

All Trump has to worry about is him becoming a liability for the "rank and file" in Congress. The only thing they like less than impeachment is losing their jobs. I'de say 10 points lower and he is toast.

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Winston said:

Approval of President Trump drops to lowest since inauguration: Reuters/Ipsos poll | Reuters

Trump's approval rating is down to 38%. New poll





Trump losing ground with Republicans, 2 points shy of 1/4 of Republican disapproval.

Everyone's starting to see Trump for who he is. I understand giving someone the benefit of the doubt. But, if anything the past 100 or so odd days, have only confirmed what we already knew; impulsive, self-centered, egotistical, dishonest.

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Mycroft said:

Once again, we have a poll with screwed up sampling.

R - 36%

D - 40%

I/O - 23% (I/O = Independent and Other)

Sorry folks, but this is NOT a representative breakdown. Independents are GREATLY undersampled.

Bogus numbers = Bogus poll.

Dismissed.

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Winston said:

Trump's down 14 points with Independents since January.

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Mycroft said:

How do you know? Are you going by some bogus poll?

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Mycroft said:

Once again, we have a poll with screwed up sampling.

R - 36%

D - 40%

I/O - 23% (I/O = Independent and Other)

Sorry folks, but this is NOT a representative breakdown. See here: Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends

Republicans - oversampled. Democrats - oversampled more. Independents are GREATLY undersampled.

Bogus numbers = Bogus poll.

Dismissed.

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Winston said:

Yeah.

Taking his support on RCP with Independents in January, vs. where he's at with Independents today. he's down 14 points. Or, to put it differently, 14% more Independents disapprove of Trump today than in January.

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Mycroft said:

How do you know he's down 14 points? Frankly, all the recent polls I've seen have been just like the polls during the campaign season...bogus. I don't think anybody really KNOWS what his approval rating is.

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Mycroft said:

How do you know he's down 14 points? Frankly, all the recent polls I've seen have been just like the polls during the campaign season...bogus. I don't think anybody really KNOWS what his approval rating is.

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