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Down goes General Lee[W:525]

Re: Down goes General Lee

beerftw said:
That is actually what the taliban, isis and al quaeda literally did though, they tried to tear down monuments and destroy historical artifacts that did not agree with their interperatation of history.
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These monuments are not being destroyed. They are being removed and relocated.

Big difference.
 
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Chomsky said:
Oh bull****. I often go as liberal as any, and would've let the statue remain for historical significance.

Maybe the problem isn't with those of us that support freedom and liberty, but rather it's with those that support political correctness.
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Should we burn crosses on people's lawns because of the historical significance of the KKK? That's the same as glorifying these monuments.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
That's right fella's. I'm just a dumbass southern redneck racist country ****er that doesn't understand because I was indoctrinated by racists and I should sit happily by and keep my uppity mouth shut while all the smart folks erase all physical markers of a major portion of our history.

So sorry, I'll go back in my corner now and shut the **** up like a good little ignorant boy.

(read what I actually said en toto, not as separate pieces to be slayed like slugs with salt while you laugh)
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Why are you forced to resort to strawmen building?
 
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Carjosse said:
Except all those times where it didn't.
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You obviously don't have a clue as to how bad the election map is right now, even with the most incompetent president and incompetent GOP congress in our history.

Every time I think we're gaining ground, some stupid ****in democrat comes along with an unforced error. Landrieu must be thinking of running for higher office.

Meanwhile, DEMs at the gerrymandered local levels will pay the price .
 
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NIMBY said:
You obviously don't have a clue as to how bad the election map is right now, even with the most incompetent president and incompetent GOP congress in our history.

Every time I think we're gaining ground, some stupid ****in democrat comes along with an unforced error. Landrieu must be thinking of running for higher office.

Meanwhile, DEMs at the gerrymandered local levels will pay the price .
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I suppose you'd also like burning crosses in the town square. We wouldn't want to forget the history of the KKK, right?
 
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ecofarm said:
Here we go... "blacks are naturally slaves they just live on the Dem party plantation now". As if blacks are incapable of voting in their interest, they're just fooled unlike the smart white people.

Spare us that racist crap.
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This is a strawman. Nothing I said was racist. Slavery exists today.
It is a multi-billion dollar industry still.
 
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TheGoverness said:
These monuments are not being destroyed. They are being removed and relocated.

Big difference.
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Removing the statues without destroying them is a steep task, I need to pull it up but the last statue they tore down they severely damaged the base on, and it is practically a challenge or near impossible to move them without breaking them.

Is the city going to hire people to reconstruct them for that museum?
 
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beerftw said:
That is actually what the taliban, isis and al quaeda literally did though, they tried to tear down monuments and destroy historical artifacts that did not agree with their interperatation of history.
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Your post is a perfect example of how the Taliban operate, demonized those you disagree with through simplistic, faulty logic, ignoring facts, so that it is easy to make them the enemy, worthy of fighting against.

See what I did there?
 
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ludin said:
This is a strawman. Nothing I said was racist. Slavery exists today.
It is a multi-billion dollar industry still.
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So you weren't angling for the "Dem plantation"? What then, taxes? Just stop with that pathetic victim card BS. It's disgusting that you'd liken anything in America today with slavery. You're just apologizing for slavery and guess what - that's racist.
 
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Lee should be known as a traitor more than benedict arnold, not to mention the greatest ever defender of slavery
 
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beerftw said:
Removing the statues without destroying them is a steep task, I need to pull it up but the last statue they tore down they severely damaged the base on, and it is practically a challenge or near impossible to move them without breaking them.

Is the city going to hire people to reconstruct them for that museum?
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I have no idea what the city plans to do with them. But I think they should repair them, and place them in a museum. These statues still have historical value.
 
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NIMBY said:
Democrats are doomed to remain a regional party in this Nation with this kind of election idiocy. I gave Landrieu more credit than I should have. He's history in LA.

Democrats will remain an archipelago of high-density DEM cities that are unconnected; with zero connection to the south and flyover country.

This kind of stupidity is why GOPs are wiping DEM asses up one side and down the other. The GOPs southern strategy from Nixon continues to win .
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The Dems has made it a tradition at this point to disrespect the south and not give two ****s what they think on anything.
 
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Chomsky said:
Oh bull****. I often go as liberal as any, and would've let the statue remain for historical significance.

Maybe the problem isn't with those of us that support freedom and liberty, but rather it's with those that support political correctness.
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Looks like trump and his GOPs are the only stupid politicians making unforced errors.

Better change the name of 'Lee Circle' to the crook 'Huey Long Circle'. It's not like the parties changed after the civil war until civil rights and the southern strategy came along.

While we're at it, let's cancel 'Jefferson Davis' holiday in Alabama. That'll help DEMs expand. The stupid Puritan test will kill democrats once and for all .
 
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Henrin said:
The Dems has made it a tradition at this point to disrespect the south and not give two ****s what they think on anything.
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Poor victims!

:2bigcry:
 
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Henrin said:
The Dems has made it a tradition at this point to disrespect the south and not give two ****s what they think on anything.
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Not all of us .
 
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ecofarm said:
Poor victims!

:2bigcry:
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Yes, having your views ignored for a century is real nice. If dems want to win in the south they have to stop doing this kind of ****, but of course they can't put their dumb ass crap on the side burner and let things be, so they meddle in things they shouldn't and they burn their own asses as a result.
 
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Redress said:
Your post is a perfect example of how the Taliban operate, demonized those you disagree with through simplistic, faulty logic, ignoring facts, so that it is easy to make them the enemy, worthy of fighting against.

See what I did there?
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you actually demonstrated it too perfect, and that same logic applies to both sides on this issue as well, if you do not agree I can spam quote nearly every anti monument poster in this thread doing exactly that.
 
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ecofarm said:
I suppose you'd also like burning crosses in the town square. We wouldn't want to forget the history of the KKK, right?
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Why go off the south rim of the Grand Canyon of personal insults and accuse me of wanting to burn crosses in the town square, ecofarm?

Anyone who knows me knows how I feel about the KKK and what a steaming pile of trump blatant irrational lies you just spewed .
 
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TheGoverness said:
The comparison here is a little extreme, because ISIS literally destroys monuments that pre-date Islamic civilization. This statue here however, is being stored and relocated somewhere else.
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I've been sidetracked with real life stuff and haven't had a good old fashioned rant in a while, and what would a rant be if it didn't push the extreme? Truth is, I didn't even read the article. That's not like me, but like I said, it was just a rant. About 40% accuracy and 60% hyperbole - a classic style rant.
 
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NIMBY said:
Why go off the south rim of the Grand Canyon of personal insults and accuse me of wanting to burn crosses in the town square, ecofarm?

Anyone who knows me knows how I feel about the KKK and what a steaming pile of trump blatant irrational lies you just spewed .
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These monuments are the same thing as burning crosses in the town square. It's basically terrorism.
 
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beerftw said:
you actually demonstrated it too perfect, and that same logic applies to both sides on this issue as well, if you do not agree I can spam quote nearly every anti monument poster in this thread doing exactly that.
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Redress and ecofarm are perfect examples of why democrats will remain in a permanent minority in the south .
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
I never even remotely indicated that, fella, so spare me the strawman.

More emotion-based bull**** that was never implied.

Read it. No history is being forgotten or erased.

Please try again.
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Off course it's emotion based bull****. That's why I wrote it. To point out that emotion based bull**** is not a valid reason to act, just like removing these monuments is emotion based bull**** spurred by a 150 year old need for revenge.
 
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ecofarm said:
For too long we glorified the Confederacy. Good riddance.



New Orleans removes Gen. Robert E. Lee statue - CNN.com
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in five years, the people who whined about General Lee will be demanding we take down monuments of founders who

1) owned slaves

2) fought the Indians

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andy Jackson, William Henry Harrison etc will all be attacked

the mentality of such people is really disgusting.
 
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