Community Development Block Grants Blocked by Trump

[bluesmoke]

That is true. I don't view politics as anything worth debating.

Rather ironic and a self-contradiction that you're posting on debatepolitics. Seems like you're tripping over yourself. Works on so many levels.

 

[chuckiechan]

Community Development Block Grant

Trump’s assault on those with the least to make way with those with more. Please read and respond.

Mulvaney: “We Won’t Spend Money on Programs That Can’t Show They Deliver on Promises”

Mulvaney: We Won?t Spend Money on Programs That Can?t Show They Deliver on Promises

But they do deliver. These HUD grants have proved successful. How dastardly can one be than to cut off funding to such programs so as to, presumably, fund huge tax cuts to the corps and the wealthy.

Some do, some don't. But many are honey pots of graft for political cronies who "deliver the votes".

Again, As they say - buff the good programs, and nerf the bad ones. What is wrong with that?

 

[bluesmoke]

Some do, some don't. But many are honey pots of graft for political cronies who "deliver the votes".

Again, As they say - buff the good programs, and nerf the bad ones. What is wrong with that?

Expanding the topic to all HUD programs, I agree with you. But you are going off-topic. The topic is not HUD. The topic is specifically the Community Development Block Grant Programs.

 

[faithful_servant]

Community Development Block Grant

Trump’s assault on those with the least to make way with those with more. Please read and respond.

Mulvaney: “We Won’t Spend Money on Programs That Can’t Show They Deliver on Promises”

Mulvaney: We Won?t Spend Money on Programs That Can?t Show They Deliver on Promises

But they do deliver. These HUD grants have proved successful. How dastardly can one be than to cut off funding to such programs so as to, presumably, fund huge tax cuts to the corps and the wealthy.

Subcommittee Examines Waste, Fraud, Abuse in HUD Spending Programs | House Committee on Financial Services (from 2013)
CDBG is Code for Waste | Citizens Against Government Waste (from 2010)
https://www.hudoig.gov/program-areas/community-development-block-grant (10 pages of this stuff)

 

[fmw]

Rather ironic and a self-contradiction that you're posting on debatepolitics. Seems like you're tripping over yourself. Works on so many levels.

I don't really debate politics. I just come here to post opinions for entertainment. People can take them or leave them.

 

[chuckiechan]

Expanding the topic to all HUD programs, I agree with you. But you are going off-topic. The topic is not HUD. The topic is specifically the Community Development Block Grant Programs.

They are used in much the same way. Like ACORN.

 

[bluesmoke]

Subcommittee Examines Waste, Fraud, Abuse in HUD Spending Programs | House Committee on Financial Services (from 2013)
CDBG is Code for Waste | Citizens Against Government Waste (from 2010)
https://www.hudoig.gov/program-areas/community-development-block-grant (10 pages of this stuff)

What your articles show is that the Community Development Block Grants internal auditing needs to be improved. It does not show waste, fraud or abuse in spending. Nor does it show any failure in the success of the program itself. As I've said before, the government conducts regular auditing of the program in question which has not turned up any fraud, etc., nor shown any failure in success. As far as what you've found, big deal.

 

[bluesmoke]

They are used in much the same way. Like ACORN.

Are you trying to hijack this subject? Just say whether you think the block grant program in question is successful or not and why. Or, should be gotten rid of, have it's budget cut as proposed, or what, and why. If the why is because it's being used "like ACORN", then at least intellectually explain yourself.

 

[Vetplus40]

Community Development Block Grant

Trump’s assault on those with the least to make way with those with more. Please read and respond.

Mulvaney: “We Won’t Spend Money on Programs That Can’t Show They Deliver on Promises”

Mulvaney: We Won?t Spend Money on Programs That Can?t Show They Deliver on Promises

But they do deliver. These HUD grants have proved successful. How dastardly can one be than to cut off funding to such programs so as to, presumably, fund huge tax cuts to the corps and the wealthy.

If trump or his cronies can figure out how to profit from them, he will suggest re-instating them.

 

[faithful_servant]

What your articles show is that the Community Development Block Grants internal auditing needs to be improved. It does not show waste, fraud or abuse in spending. Nor does it show any failure in the success of the program itself. As I've said before, the government conducts regular auditing of the program in question which has not turned up any fraud, etc., nor shown any failure in success. As far as what you've found, big deal.

They show MASSIVE waste and fraud in spending. Not one or two isolated incidents, but a wide-spread problem across decades. When you simple give people a pile of money with little in the way of guidelines on how it's going to be spent, you set yourself up for a situation where problems are going to happen. CDBGs are rampant with fraud.

 

[bluesmoke]

They show MASSIVE waste and fraud in spending. Not one or two isolated incidents, but a wide-spread problem across decades. When you simple give people a pile of money with little in the way of guidelines on how it's going to be spent, you set yourself up for a situation where problems are going to happen. CDBGs are rampant with fraud.

But you can't show those cases you purport to be. All you can show is that accounting guidelines are not being followed. I agree that not following guidelines can possibly set up a cover-up of fraud. But that has not been shown and you have not shown any facts supporting your claim. None. No rampant fraud. You are making a false claim.