Angelus
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Wow - we agree on just about everything.
Cold war - you seem to see this as static - I don't. Putin is former KGB officer and damn smart. I agree that all along our countries have been opposites in a paradigm of competition, using the same tricks in different ways. They do it and we do it. We have different explanations for our atrocities. But - Russia is openly committing them right now in the Crimea to regain land they lost at their weakest. We aren't occupying Iraq where our atrocities happened. This matters in a geopolitical sense.
Putin's agenda is not ours - they are not and never will be our friend. Putin wants a strong Russia so why try to strengthen their biggest competitor? Why would they want us strong? Why would they want us taking the same slice of world pie as they do - it makes theirs smaller. Our allies are always weaker than we are in some way. If a country is at the same strength, they compete to be king of every mountain.
Study the trends in the past century - England was a world power bigger than Russia last century. Now what are they? ISIS was born in the WWI when we destroyed the Ottoman Empire. WWII changed borders all around the world. The result of both of those events made the US a world power, and Russia too. This isn't about economics. Or just economics. It's about us becoming England. Russia, China and the US compete - our part of the triangle is getting weaker. No democracy has ever lasted more than 200 years - Russia is ****ing with our democracy when they even try to influence the vote. And they are doing it for Russia - not for us. Whether or not it influenced the election will be debated forever. Not my issue - it's them being able to interfere at all. Slippery slope, anyone?
I am not reliving the election - frankly, I liked Bernie so I am as pissed as anyone about Hillary and the Dems and I believe this is as much their fault as any, maybe more. I have other reasons to hate her and her candidacy, but you probably know what they are. The Libertarian candidate was a joke, and so was the Green. The choice was between two corrupt candidates - kinda like the US and Russia, and just as likely to become friends .
That doesn't mean I won't see and object to what I consider a rather appalling job so far. Trump is predictable, inexperienced, arrogant and narcissist. Not unusual, but more than most. He is also defensive and unwilling to learn or to listen to anyone out side his circle. My belief - Trump had a temper tantrum because he's thin skinned. Then they put out a story, throwing Rosenstein under th bus. Maybe Trump wanted to do what was right during the interview but it added up to throwing the rest of his people under the bus. That's a microcosm of everything wrong with what is going on.
Yeah - I am not gonna cry about supporters like that - more likely to laugh at the irony. And yes - a lot of intelligent consideration goes into the choice for some people.
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