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Time for a Special Prosecutor or Special Commission

Vetplus40 said:
You don't need probable cause to have a special entity to investigate a matter. That said, there has been enough "special" circumstances already to warrant such an action. You are obviously worried about what an entity outside of the influence of the WH might actually provide. Color me surprised.
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There is no evidence. There isn't even a specific charge. I'm not worried because I can't imagine that there would be anything to find concerning Trump. They are working overtime on Flynn. Something may come of that, if it makes you feel better.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am not aware of any attempt to interfere with investigations or in fact any actual interference that is anything other than Trump maintaining is innocence...which always needs to be allowed..... or in the case of removing Comey unproven allegation.
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Any amount of communication directed at a witness into the investigation (Yates, Comey, etc.) that is intended to modify that testimony may qualify:

Witness tampering is the act of attempting to alter or prevent the testimony of witnesses within criminal or civil proceedings. Laws regarding witness tampering also apply to proceedings before Congress, executive departments, and administrative agencies. To be charged with witness tampering in the United States, the attempt to alter or prevent testimony is sufficient.
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fmw said:
You have some proof of that?
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Do you not realize that firing Yates, firing Comey, firing Bharara, tweeting to Yates in an attempt to influence her testimony, etc. all qualify?
 
Absentglare said:
Any amount of communication directed at a witness into the investigation (Yates, Comey, etc.) that is intended to modify that testimony may qualify:
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Of course you have it figured that Trump being Trump is a criminal act, regardless of the fact that We the People sent a Trump to town on purpose.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
My beef is that the WH is clearly lying about why he was terminated.
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Nah, there is great argument that Comey had to go, and another that Trump had to wait to fire him so that reasonable people did not jump to the conclusion that he was being fired because of the so-called Russia Investigation.

Trump also had to dig into the FBI, investigate the place, so that he could make the right call.

The Russia investigation has gone no place, it's May, it's time...
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
Nah, there is great argument that Comey had to go, and another that Trump had to wait to fire him so that reasonable people did not jump to the conclusion that he was being fired because of the so-called Russia Investigation.
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No, there is no such great argument about him having to wait. None.
Trump also had to dig into the FBI, investigate the place, so that he could make the right call.
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That is a delusional statement not based in reality.
The Russia investigation has gone no place, it's May, it's time...
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Wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Of course you have it figured that Trump being Trump is a criminal act, regardless of the fact that We the People sent a Trump to town on purpose.
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Of course you have figured it out that Trump being Trump proves he cannot be guilty of any malfeasance, regardless of the fact that he has definitively broken the law.
 
Absentglare said:
Of course you have figured it out that Trump being Trump proves he cannot be guilty of any malfeasance, regardless of the fact that he has definitively broken the law.
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Right, because in that case there is a great argument that the law is wrong here, which would shock me not at all, because our so-called justice system sucks sweaty monkey balls.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, there is no such great argument about him having to wait. None.

That is a delusional statement not based in reality.

Wrong. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Digging into an operation as soon as one gets in the door to figure out what to do with said organization is the practice of good managers, This can sometimes take a lot of time, especially if the organization is large and/or there is great difficulty in learning who to trust, as most everybody who is not a moron knows.


Are you auditioning a comedy act?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Right, because in that case there is a great argument that the law is wrong here, which would shock me not at all, because our so-called justice system sucks sweaty monkey balls.
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Do you understand that it is inappropriate for a government official to interfere in an investigation that involves them?

Or are you claiming that firing three different prosecutors who were actively investigating President Trump is somehow not interference?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Outraged.

You should be too.
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I'm gonna go with bitter. And I've no reason to be.

I am a bit outraged at the unfair treatment of blacks in the justice system. Does that count?
 
Absentglare said:
Do you understand that it is inappropriate for a government official to interfere in an investigation that involves them?

Or are you claiming that firing three different prosecutors who were actively investigating President Trump is somehow not interference?
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When I see Cosby charged for calling his accuser a liar in public I dispute the current standards of appropriate response to being targeted.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm gonna go with bitter. And I've no reason to be.

I am a bit outraged at the unfair treatment of blacks in the justice system. Does that count?
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You can fantasize to your hearts content.
 
ecofarm said:
You believe blacks are treated fairly by the justice system?
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I believe that most have given up on underclass blacks, because of black historic poor performance no matter how many nice words and how much money we throw at them, and because we have no need for their labor, and once that happens the deep sadism of modern American society takes over. We have a thread here somewhere where folks argue for vigilante killings. Of Humans.

Let that set in a spell.

The people whom we write off know when they have been written off, underclass blacks are not wrong that they have been deemed human waste, but the reason is not the color of their skin, as proven by all the successful blacks we have.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
Digging into an operation as soon as one gets in the door to figure out what to do with said organization is the practice of good managers, This can sometimes take a lot of time, especially if the organization is large and/or there is great difficulty in learning who to trust, as most everybody who is not a moron knows.

Are you auditioning a comedy act?
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The only comedy act here is the poster who doesn't understand that the investigatee just fired the investigator. It has nothing to do with 'digging in', it has everything to do with a constitutional issue and possible crisis.

You literally, flat-out have no idea, whatsoever, what you're talking about.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
The only comedy act here is the poster who doesn't understand that the investigatee just fired the investigator. It has nothing to do with 'digging in', it has everything to do with a constitutional issue and possible crisis.

You literally, flat-out have no idea, whatsoever, what you're talking about.
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My crime is not agreeing with you, and for that you tell lies about me.

Charming.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
My crime is not agreeing with you, and for that you tell lies about me.

Charming.
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And yet you cannot cite a single lie I've told about you.

Truth is, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and your posts demonstrate that.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I talk around DP enough about civility and justice that you damn well should not be surprised to find me doing it here.....

The rules can not be special for Trump just because a lot of people are pissed that We the People sent him to the White House.
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We the people didn't send him to the oval. He LOST the popular vote. A fluke of the EC did that. That said, there is nothing in your posts that even hints of objectivity regarding Trump.
 
joG said:
It is hard to see how anyone could argue against a Special Prosecutor/Commission now. That is why it is so off the wall. Nobody that knows how the USA works could have expected otherwise.[/QUOTE

The ONLY people who would object are those with something to hide, or those who are scared to death that they help elect a scandal latent president.
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fmw said:
There is no evidence. There isn't even a specific charge. I'm not worried because I can't imagine that there would be anything to find concerning Trump. They are working overtime on Flynn. Something may come of that, if it makes you feel better.
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Flynn is already "toast" and we both know you are very worried about further details emerging....:) That said, what ever you have to tell yourself ..........:)
 
Tanngrisnir said:
The only comedy act here is the poster who doesn't understand that the investigatee just fired the investigator. It has nothing to do with 'digging in', it has everything to do with a constitutional issue and possible crisis.

You literally, flat-out have no idea, whatsoever, what you're talking about.
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He operated in the Trump world of "alternative facts" that suit his particular argument at any given time.
 
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