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Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your president'

Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

Clinton Corp hurt America by sabotaging the Democratic Party and their 2016 primaries, and thus enthroning Donald J. Trump as the President of the United States of America.

Great minds think alike!

However, the reading of their list of crimes runs longer.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

Hillary and the dems love it more and want even bigger government

One day you'll realize your precious GOP grows the government just as much as the Democrats do.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

No idea-what was Hanks' policies. I am not very familiar with that guy from Arizona either

That's the point. Who cares what he thinks? Trump won despite the majority of his voters believing he was lying about the centerpiece of his campaign - that Mexico would pay for a wall. Nobody believed that. So it sounds to this guy (I'm this guy) like the only reason Trump won was because people didn't like Hillary. People love Tom Hanks.

I mean, I'm glad you care what Tom Hanks thinks, I would too should I vote for him. But the question is, could Tom Hanks just run for President on a platform like "I'll defeat ISIS using sandworms and I will pay for it with their spice"? I think he'd win. I'm being serious except for running on a Dune centered platform.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

The same pathetic individual who emerged at the side of Bill Clinton who ate all the feces he gifted her.

No, she would have lost. PA, WI, MI... thanks to Obama, and her having no message for those people who suffered under Obama.


Final Score:
304 - 227 or 306 - 232...


What was her message anyway?

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/19/why-hillary-clinton-really-lost/?print=pdf

I agree with her. She lost because wikileaks exposed her incompetence and deception.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

One day you'll realize your precious GOP grows the government just as much as the Democrats do.

one day you will realize that its the democrats who have raped the tenth amendment the most
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

One day you'll realize your precious GOP grows the government just as much as the Democrats do.

Not just as much, no, but certainly more than it should.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

Hilldog needs to go back to NY, and bake cookies for her grandchild. If the choke queen even hints at running for office, the DNC should run, fast!! She needs to remove her claws from the DNC, and let some new blood have there chance.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

I just find it the mother of all ironies that some on the Hillary camp still call upon the Russian meddling theory to justify what amounts to a gargantuan defeat. Let's say that the accusations are all true and Russia did supply WikiLeaks with the documents.

Somehow, it doesn't hit Hillary's supporters that the reason why those documents were damaging in the first place is because they revealed partial and immoral behaviour from the DNC to benefit her. Had the DNC not engaged us such unscrupulous behaviour there would be nothing to write home about and nothing to leverage against Clinton. Yet her supporters are willing to attack the massager, WikiLeaks, not the villains.

Charming.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

the main take from her electoral loss and supposed popular vote win (lots of votes are not counted once the margin has been surpassed due to the fact that all that matters is who won the state-not by how much) is that California is an aberration

So I'll take that as a no, that you are not interested in having that conversation.

But I will say it is foolish to think of the state with the highest population by a margin of about 10 million, that on it's own has the world's 6th largest economy, as being "aberrant". It is normal and natural for the population and economic centers of any nation to have enormous influence on the culture and politics of their nation, that is not aberration sir, that is as it should be.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

No, she just needs to make more money off a book that most people shouldn't give two craps about.

No more bogus speeches for millions of dollars (bribes) unless the rich believe the corrupt and evil witch has risen from the ashes and will try again. Evil does not go away it must be stamped out.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

She may be right. Since she lost the tipping point state by only .7% it's certainly possible that there was that shift the last few weeks, especially as she seemed to be crashing/Trump rising around then.

It doesn't really mean anything though. The election was on November 8th. And before or after the Comey letter it's not like America had a positive view of her. She lost an extremely close election to another candidate America hated, and the fact that there may have been points in time where she was ahead of him doesn't mean much.

Any decent candidate by the left would have beaten Trump with ease.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

Yes, it makes me chuckle, as it's a hollow and laughable argument in terms a legitimate look at the more pressing and substantial factors that played into her loss. It's like someone who's obese focusing on the fact they like to have the occasional ice cream cone and putting that on equal footing or ahead of the fact they drink soda continuously, eat fast food 4 times a week, never work out, and eat a snickers bar at lunch every day.

The disparity of men voting for Trump instead of her essentially the same that we saw in Bush vs Gore and in Bush vs Kerry. Her 13 point advantage in women was larger than Bush vs Gore or Clinton vs Romney. You can no more claim "misogyny" was a significant driving factor based on the numbers than you could say misanthropy was.

Am I suggesting that there were some people who were misogynistic that didn't vote for her? Absolutely. However, I'd suggest that many of those that were misogynistic and didn't vote for her likely still wouldn't have voted for her if she was a HE, and would've voted for her if she was an (R).

I chuckle, because it's basically an attempt to soft peddle and downplay her significant flaws as a candidate and in the campaign that were FAR more impactful in terms of the reasons for her loss. A sad and desperate attempt to play the victim card in order to attempt and protect her legacy as someone who had her chance at the Presidency stolen from her due to bigotry as opposed to because her campaign bungled their strategy. I chuckle a sad chuckle, because it's not any kind of honest attempt to raise awareness or actually show concern for true misogyny, but is simply using it for the emotional and political cache that comes along with it to suit her own selfish purposes.

Finally, part of the chuckle is because it makes me recall this incredibly interesting social experiment that was conducted post election that's results were significantly shocking to those who put it together.

The fact is any decent candidate by the democrats would have slaughtered Trump. If Trump beat her without party support and one of the most hostile medias in history she was clearly never going to win or deserved to win.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

I agree with her. She lost because wikileaks exposed her incompetence and deception.

We have to give credit to Bernie for exposing all the bribes by the rich and powerful I mean speeches.:lamo
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

That's the point. Who cares what he thinks? Trump won despite the majority of his voters believing he was lying about the centerpiece of his campaign - that Mexico would pay for a wall. Nobody believed that. So it sounds to this guy (I'm this guy) like the only reason Trump won was because people didn't like Hillary. People love Tom Hanks.

I mean, I'm glad you care what Tom Hanks thinks, I would too should I vote for him. But the question is, could Tom Hanks just run for President on a platform like "I'll defeat ISIS using sandworms and I will pay for it with their spice"? I think he'd win. I'm being serious except for running on a Dune centered platform.

There is no question I voted for trump because the democrats left me no choice when Hillary became their candidate. The evil witch needs to go away like George W for the good of the country.

But no the evil has risen again and vowed to be the cog in the machine or as she puts it (the resistance). Her goal is not to help the American people but to make sure nothing gets accomplished unless it benefits the rich and powerful who feather her nest. That is the usual positon of the corupt.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

October 27th? Yeah, no. The damage was done well before that.

She fell five points on RCP immediately after Comey's announcement, which finally put her well within the margin of error. That's catastrophic. Nobody who follows daily polling averages with any degree of consistency wouldn't see that as the determining factor that handed the Presidency to Trump once and for all.
 
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Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

No more bogus speeches for millions of dollars (bribes) unless the rich believe the corrupt and evil witch has risen from the ashes and will try again. Evil does not go away it must be stamped out.

She's not "evil" per say, no more than any other standard Republocrat. She's just a rich elitist politician who believes she deserves to lead. She's just part of the new Aristocracy, this is how aristocrats behave.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

The same pathetic individual who emerged at the side of Bill Clinton who ate all the feces he gifted her.

No, she would have lost. PA, WI, MI... thanks to Obama, and her having no message for those people who suffered under Obama.


Final Score:
304 - 227 or 306 - 232...


What was her message anyway?

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/19/why-hillary-clinton-really-lost/?print=pdf

I don't agree with HIllary often, but I believe the Comey letter swung the election to Trump and I said so at the time. Prior to that, Trump was in free fall over the ***** grabbing tape and his poor debate performances. He got new life when Comey said he was reopening the invesigation
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

She's not "evil" per say, no more than any other standard Republocrat. She's just a rich elitist politician who believes she deserves to lead. She's just part of the new Aristocracy, this is how aristocrats behave.

I don't agree. I think if she stepped aside the way George W. did and not hamper the incoming president I would agree. But no she has already stated she will cause as much trouble as possible and make sure nothing gets done as usual. That is pure and simple vindictive hate by a clearly evil person. We do not need a resistance but bi partisan cooperation to get things done. She is a prime example of what is wrong in our government.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

I don't agree. I think if she stepped aside the way George W. did and not hamper the incoming president I would agree. But no she has already stated she will cause as much trouble as possible and make sure nothing gets done as usual. That is pure and simple vindictive hate by a clearly evil person. We do not need a resistance but bi partisan cooperation to get things done. She is a prime example of what is wrong in our government.

We absolutely do need resistance to a Republican-led government, but I think what we can agree on is that Clinton's personality and style of messaging is not what will be helpful.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

HRC lost the 2016 election in 2009 when she opted for a personal email server instead of a state dot gov address to conduct State Dept business on.

I'd add, 'and then tried to cover it up, lie about it, minimize it, thwart any and all legitimate investigation and oversight into it'.

In fact there are still emails from her server that contain classified information showing up. Latest from some 900 more emails from Huma and Weiner's computer, if the reports I read are accurate, and there are still FOIA requests that are outstanding and left unfulfilled.

Accountable governmnet? From her? Not on your life. Corrupt government, more like it. Thank goodness the nation dodged that bullet.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

give it your best shot dude. the fact is-hillary lost despite having all the breaks. what does that show us?

1) she was an incredibly flawed candidate. her sense of entitlement and her arrogance was off-putting to millions

2) she was unable to understand how flawed she was and as a result she made no, or very little effort, to deal with those problems.

3) I suspect she was mastered by her own mythology and believed the BS she was being fed that she had the election wrapped up.

Interesting in how she 'accepts responsibility', and then promptly pivots to blame someone else and something else.
I guess that's as close as you get with a Clinton 'accepting responsibility' in real sense of the words.
I keep hearing that 'words matter', but I guess not in the Clinton's case.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

I don't agree with HIllary often, but I believe the Comey letter swung the election to Trump and I said so at the time. Prior to that, Trump was in free fall over the ***** grabbing tape and his poor debate performances. He got new life when Comey said he was reopening the invesigation

Then she really shouldn't have set up that private email server while she was SOS then, shouldn't she have?
She should have made a clear breast of it all, all at once, withholding nothing, every scrap. Has she, it would have blown over in less than a year.

But she did drag it out to the last bitter end, kicking and screaming every step. Kept it in the news over and over and over, far longer had she adopted the above instead.

Hillary lost because of decisions that Hillary made, and the consequences and results of those poor decisions.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

Then she really shouldn't have set up that private email server while she was SOS then, shouldn't she have?
She should have made a clear breast of it all, all at once, withholding nothing, every scrap. Has she, it would have blown over in less than a year.

But she did drag it out to the last bitter end, kicking and screaming every step. Kept it in the news over and over and over, far longer had she adopted the above instead.

Hillary lost because of decisions that Hillary made, and the consequences and results of those poor decisions.

Hillary made poor decisions, and Hillary would have been president if the Comey letter had not come out. Both of these statements can be true.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

The same pathetic individual who emerged at the side of Bill Clinton who ate all the feces he gifted her.

No, she would have lost. PA, WI, MI... thanks to Obama, and her having no message for those people who suffered under Obama.


Final Score:
304 - 227 or 306 - 232...


What was her message anyway?

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/19/why-hillary-clinton-really-lost/?print=pdf

It makes her feel better and feeds her ego. No harm done. She can believe what she likes and express those beliefs. It doesn't matter at all.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton: 'If the election had been on October 27, I would be your preside

She may be right. Since she lost the tipping point state by only .7% it's certainly possible that there was that shift the last few weeks, especially as she seemed to be crashing/Trump rising around then.

It doesn't really mean anything though. The election was on November 8th. And before or after the Comey letter it's not like America had a positive view of her. She lost an extremely close election to another candidate America hated, and the fact that there may have been points in time where she was ahead of him doesn't mean much.

the only thing that counts is the score when the buzzer is at 0:00 anything else that happens up till then doesn't matter.
 
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