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The south rises again...

Moderate Right said:
A cartoon is a cartoon is a cartoon. You have no arguments so you want to post comedy routines as proof? Like I said, a cartoon.
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Actually it wasn't a cartoon and explain to you the difference and you still don't get it
 
nota bene said:
You're beginning with the simplistic assumption that this war, known by some as the War of Northern Aggression, was solely about this when it wasn't.

I'm not really interested in re-fighting this war and will say simply that those who refer to the Southerners who fought as "traitors" are foolishly trying to apply 21st century understanding to a 19th century and earlier's sensibilities.

None of my relatives on either side who fought in the Civil War were slave owners. The Southern ones were not fighting for slavery.

As George Santayana said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." And being needlessly insulting, as some are on this thread and similar ones, doesn't accomplish anything good.
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And those who DO remember the past are condemned to stand by helplessly and watch while those who do not remember the past repeat it.
 
Paperview said:
I give what I get, bud. You seem to smugly think you have all the knowledge on this, and I'm telling you, you don't.

I said any day of the week, I would take a confederate dollar for change -- and happily pay a dollar if I spotted a genuine one, which I detailed to you earlier, I have decades of authenticity skills, and many numerous examples of authentic confederate currency
in
my
own
archives.

Do you? No, you just went on a lash about how you think you know about something that another is a skilled professional at, and told that person they would be a fool to accept any CC, as it would be worthless.

Maybe if you hadn't been so prickly in your initial comments on this, I wouldn't have an attitude about this, but you did.

I'm telling you -- all genuine Confederate currency has some collector value -- much of the 1864 issue notes, for example, can be very common, and yes, condition counts always, but even then -- as I relayed a few posts up:

"A few years ago, I bought about 15 pieces of confederate currency for about 3 dollars apiece at an estate sale.

They were in pretty horrid condition, but I knew they fell into the fairly scarce territory.

I sold them the next day for ten times what I paid for them.

They'd be worth even more today."

Earlier issues in the war range quite a bit, but are more scarce (some, too, can be common)-- and they all hold at least one autograph on the note. Often two.

There were counterfeits made and were circulated at the time of issue -- but even those have collector value - as they were contemporary.

Now how about you just say -- yeah, maybe I could be wrong on this, and perhaps, Paperview, you have a much deeper background on this than I knew, and concede to your knowledge base on this.
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Thanks for the excellent information. I can only agree and doubt there's more to know otherwise.
 
Henrin said:
Why is the left so interested in attacking everything that speaks towards the confederate side of the civil war? For that matter, why is the left always so interested in starting tensions in the country over stupid ****?
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Maybe they think slavery wasn't exactly ok.
And would we rather be black or white in these United States?
Deafening silence usually
Know what they say, "if you haven't been there you have zero to say"
 
Moderate Right said:
How can you talk logic to someone who is illogical, such as yourself? It is just a waste of oxygen. If you are a tree hugging environmentalist you should care more about the oxygen on the planet.
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ppv just gave the logic I needed, thank you very much. Where is the logic behind being a tree hugging environmentalist, if I were one, have to do with any of this? I mean, since you brought it up.
 
katzgar said:
LOL. you need to think stuff through before you post.
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Do you have something against the Roadrunner or Bullwinkle? They would actually prove your point better than those stupid "videos" you posted. The left often has no proof of anything so they have to resort to posting stupid links that have nothing to do with proving anything.
 
Moderate Right said:
Do you have something against the Roadrunner or Bullwinkle? They would actually prove your point better than those stupid "videos" you posted. The left often has no proof of anything so they have to resort to posting stupid links that have nothing to do with proving anything.
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what I did prove is you dont know the difference between a video and a cartoon even after I explained it to you.
 
katzgar said:
what I did prove is you dont know the difference between a video and a cartoon even after I explained it to you.
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What it does prove is that you admit that the "videos" you posted were nothing but a cute distraction because you couldn't offer any proof of anything. Are those "videos" the only proof you can offer up, Nancy?
 
Moderate Right said:
What it does prove is that you admit that the "videos" you posted were nothing but a cute distraction because you couldn't offer any proof of anything. Are those "videos" the only proof you can offer up, Nancy?
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It really isn't anything to meant they are obviously just cute videos holy crap dude calm down
 
katzgar said:
It really isn't anything to meant they are obviously just cute videos holy crap dude calm down
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You're the one who made several posts trying to explain the difference between a video and a cartoon. However, I will accept your pathetic surrender on the real topic.
 
calamity said:
Read the article. The so-called memorials being removed are not mere remembrances but rather are celebratory. Why do you want to celebrate something as despicable as slavery and white supremacy?




The Left has brains. What more can be said?
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Slavery, Slavery, Slavery, sounding like a one trick pony!

The majority of Confederate generals did not own slaves and did not come from slaveholding
families (Hattaway and Beringer, Jefferson Davis, Confederate President, p. 37).

The CSA's two highest ranking generals, Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston, both
slavery and supported emancipation in various forms. Lee called slavery "a moral and
political evil." Johnston called it "a curse."

HERE LIES THE THINKING OF THE MAJORITY OF SOUTHERN SOLDIERS
Consider many men joining a gentlemen club, & then Group #1 started sticking their noses into
the private lives of Group #2 & Group #2 because of that upped & resigned & then Group #1
tells group #2 they don't have the right to resign.

They were fighting for freedom from the rule of what was to them a foreign government. The
country was established after all with strong states govenments for one reason, to avoid a central tyranny.
 
slick said:
Slavery, Slavery, Slavery, sounding like a one trick pony!

The majority of Confederate generals did not own slaves and did not come from slaveholding
families (Hattaway and Beringer, Jefferson Davis, Confederate President, p. 37).

The CSA's two highest ranking generals, Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston, both
slavery and supported emancipation in various forms. Lee called slavery "a moral and
political evil." Johnston called it "a curse."

HERE LIES THE THINKING OF THE MAJORITY OF SOUTHERN SOLDIERS
Consider many men joining a gentlemen club, & then Group #1 started sticking their noses into
the private lives of Group #2 & Group #2 because of that upped & resigned & then Group #1
tells group #2 they don't have the right to resign.

They were fighting for freedom from the rule of what was to them a foreign government. The
country was established after all with strong states govenments for one reason, to avoid a central tyranny.
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your post is just revisionist foolishness. Read the articles of secession. The south seceded over slavery, it is that simple.
 
Moderate Right said:
You're the one who made several posts trying to explain the difference between a video and a cartoon. However, I will accept your pathetic surrender on the real topic.
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the real topic being I had to explain the difference between a video and a cartoon to you.
 
katzgar said:
the real topic being I had to explain the difference between a video and a cartoon to you.
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I thought the topic was "The South Rises Again". But, I do understand why you want to change the subject.
 
Geoist said:
Is it a bad thing Soviet statues are being taken down?

If some Confederate redneck wants to erect a statue of Stonewall Jackson on his property then he should be free to. Personally, I dislike any idolization so I'm pretty anti-statue in general, but idolization of people who represented an institution we now consider morally reprehensible is much worse.
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At this time when the country is so divided I think actions that we know will cause further division should be avoided if it at all possible. Instead we have the left paying no mind to such issues and in fact fanning the flames at an even greater pace than they have ever done in this country. If the left was really concerned about division like they claim they would step back and let things calm down for a bit instead of trying to find a new gear to swing things in. This whole statue issue is not an issue that needs to be addressed, but like usual if the left finds something that offends them they just have to jump on it no matter how much **** it will throw into the air.
 
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