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MARK CUBAN: I'd give Trump a C-minus for his first 100 days

trouble13 said:
I give Trump a soft B on his 1st 100 days.

He has set a solid framework to move his agenda forward via EOs. I would give him a higher grade but he has not done the arm twisting he needs to do with congress yet.

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you have a very low bar
 
MaggieD said:
Glad I checked in on this post. Now Cuban's vocal criticism makes more sense. He sees himself as a contenda. How interesting.
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He could potentially destroy Trump under the right circumstances. There's a reason why Trump's team is worried about him.
 
Fletch said:
C- from a critic like Cuban is really not that horrible of a grade. Most lefties have Trump on double secret probation.
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Right, which is why Cuban has cross over appeal. I looked up some of his political positions, and honestly he's less liberal than Trump.

Again, there's a reason why Trump's team is worried about Cuban's political prospects.
 
jimbo said:
President Trump didn't open that door. If you are over 35. a natural born US citizen, and an 11 year resident, you can run for President. That was the founding fathers.

Even in '20, even if President Trump tanks, the election will still be about what the Republicans in Congress do, and more importantly what the Democrats in general do. So far, all the Democrats have done is whine and obstruct.
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LOL, you wish.

The 2020 election will be all about Donald Trump and how he governs. If he fails, then you get another Democrat in the white house. It's that simple.

You guy's can't run away from Trump now. You voted for him in the primaries, and then the general election. He's the face of your political party. You guys own him.
 
VanceMack said:
Cuban is a bitch. We can just get that out of the way up front. Mr mouth...theres your money. Jump into the ring. Until you do...you are just a mouth and nothing more.

As for Trumps first 100 days. Wouldnt you say it is going precisely how you might imagine? Trump has played politics his entire business life but he isnt a politician. It will naturally be a bit of a stumbling block to have the roles and powers as boss hindered. Id bet he thought he could get around a lot of things that he cant get around. He also has to deal with a worthless congress that is not only inept, but largely against him. He is limited to executive actions...that IS after all the capacity of presidents to make changes on their own.
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Ah, good ole Vance coming in to defend Trump yet again.
 
Vox said:
People gave Obama a pass for not getting things done by saying the Republicans were "the Party of NO" and it was their fault that Obama couldn't get anything done.

So now the Democrats have become "the Party of NO" and Trump gets the same pass.

The main difference is that Obama was the black darling of the Media and Trump is..........not.

He's an old white guy and thus evil.

I'd give Trump a B for his efforts thus far. He's made mistakes (tweeting too loud) but he's also made an honest effort to do good things and been delayed by the courts and the legislature.

This will improve with Gorsuch on the Supreme Court and as Trump slowly builds a coalition that will include some right-thinking Democrats and the CENTRIST majority among Americans and their representatives.

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"But Obama!"

Focus on the thread topic. This is about Mark Cuban's grade of Donald Trump's first 100 days as president, and him potentially running in 2020. What we know is...Cuban thinks Trump is thoroughly mediocre...and that Trump's team consider's Cuban a potential threat in 2020.
 
Perotista said:
As I stated on a couple of other threads, Trump so far hasn't done anything to upset me or anything to give him praise. It's been a rather ho hum 100 days so far. Sure, a lot of things Trump has done or attempted to do has got him condemn as the devil or elevated to heaven by the folks on this site, the political active partisans. But for the public as a whole, not as partisan and not political junkies, its been business as usual with a shrug.

So a C minus or perhaps a C fits as far as I'm concerned. Trump started out at 44% approval and is at 42% today, not much movement. So most people haven't changed their minds about him, Minds made up long before the election. He has remained fairly steady in that aspect. In other words, Trump has done nothing so far, good or bad, to really move the needle. Compare Trump to Obama, Obama began at 64% approval and dropped to 60% over the same time period.

But comparing the two really isn't valid concerning the two different type of elections we that were held and how the American people viewed the candidates. 62% of all Americans had a positive or favorable view of Obama when he ran in 2012, Romney was was viewed positive by 55%. A majority of Americans viewed both candidates in a positive manner and had a heap of more trust in them than the candidates of 2016. In contrast only 34% viewed Trump positively, 38% Clinton. Each were viewed unfavorable or negatively by around 60% of all Americans. Neither was trusted and I suspect either on would be in the low 40's today as far as approval since the choice last November was one a majority of Americans didn't want to make.
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Trump's support has gone down among independents. If Trump continues to lose their support, he loses the election in 2020. The GOP base along is not large enough to win elections.
 
Puigb said:
Ah, good ole Vance coming in to defend Trump yet again.
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Please feel free to point out anything in that comment that is a 'defense'.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Actually no, winning takes skill just as it always has, which Trump has demonstrated but I dont know that this Cuban fella has.
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Now, I see it much differently.

All things considered, Trump's demonstrations are not at all flattering to his business astuteness. (Is that even a word?)

Trump is a trust fund baby. I have read articles suggesting that if Trump would have just taken the money he inherited and invested, he would be lot more wealthier than he is now. He has a long history of spearheading bankruptcies under his brand, hiding behind the corporate veil and getting rich on the backs of other's misfortunes for dealing with him and he is well known for not paying his bills and in general being an over-all a two-faced, narcissistic welsh.

As for Cuban, I believe he had to actually work to get where he is. I'm not sure. I have to go Google that.
 
Puigb said:
Right, which is why Cuban has cross over appeal. I looked up some of his political positions, and honestly he's less liberal than Trump.

Again, there's a reason why Trump's team is worried about Cuban's political prospects.
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I like Cuban. He might be left of center but he doesn't seem like an ideological lefty so I could vote for him
 
Fletch said:
I like Cuban. He might be left of center but he doesn't seem like an ideological lefty so I could vote for him
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Yeah, I could potentially vote for him too, provided he sticks to his positions and doesn't change them when it's convenient for him like Trump does.

The thing is, the Democrats will never let him make it through the primaries if he chooses to run as a Democrat. But who knows...anything can happen. Look at Trump
 
Captain America said:
Now, I see it much differently.

All things considered, Trump's demonstrations are not at all flattering to his business astuteness. (Is that even a word?)

Trump is a trust fund baby. I have read articles suggesting that if Trump would have just taken the money he inherited and invested, he would be lot more wealthier than he is now. He has a long history of spearheading bankruptcies under his brand, hiding behind the corporate veil and getting rich on the backs of other's misfortunes for dealing with him and he is well known for not paying his bills and in general being an over-all a two-faced, narcissistic welsh.

As for Cuban, I believe he had to actually work to get where he is. I'm not sure. I have to go Google that.
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He did. Cuban is a true American success story, unlike Trump who, as you said, is a trust fund baby.
 
Puigb said:
Well, your need to call Cuban a bitch for one.
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Mark Cuban IS a bitch. he has no skin in the game and is content to talk ****. Its entirely likely he would do no better and perhaps no worse than Trump for approximately the same reasons. Now...show me the defense of Trump.
 
Puigb said:
LOL, you wish.

The 2020 election will be all about Donald Trump and how he governs. If he fails, then you get another Democrat in the white house. It's that simple.

You guy's can't run away from Trump now. You voted for him in the primaries, and then the general election. He's the face of your political party. You guys own him.
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Oh, I agree. The next four years or the next two, will be about Republican political leaders. Not necessarily just Trump. I'm not running away for now. Although I'm prepared to go another direction if the road looks better.

I knew this would be a long hard battle. The object is to win the war.

I do have to ask, which Democrat in 2020? Hillary? Socialist Bernie? Injun Liz? The Democrats have the same problem as the Repubs. Not much to choose from. My choices. Webb (D), Pence (R). I'm not positive Trump will seek a second term.
 
VanceMack said:
Mark Cuban IS a bitch. he has no skin in the game and is content to talk ****. Its entirely likely he would do no better and perhaps no worse than Trump for approximately the same reasons. Now...show me the defense of Trump.
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How is he a bitch? He's still relatively young and he may run in the future. And you can't really compare him to Trump yet. I have yet to see Cuban flip flop in his political positions the way Trump has, but he COULD potentially do that in the future.

On the other hand, you must have considered Trump a bitch for 30 years or so considering he's been talking about running for president since the 1980's.
 
Puigb said:
Trump's support has gone down among independents. If Trump continues to lose their support, he loses the election in 2020. The GOP base along is not large enough to win elections.
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True, but who knows how independents will view Trump in 2020? Heck, who knows how the GOP will view him? If Obama ran for re-election in 2010,2011, 2014 or 2015, he would have been defeated. As luck would have it, Obama regained popularity in 2012 enough for him to win by 4 points, although he did lose the independent vote 51-47. But the Democrats had the larger base, so Obama could afford to lose independents as long as he kept it close. He succeeded.

I firmly believe if the Democrats had run someone else other than Hillary, they would be sitting in the Oval Office today. Back in 2012 the Democratic base made up 35% of the electorate while the GOP base was at 30%. Today the Democratic base is down to 30% while the GOP base has dropped to 26%. Dissatisfaction with both parties galore. Gridlock, polarization, candidates no one likes outside of their core supporters, all have contributed to the frustration of the average American. I would say when the two parties nominate candidates with only a 34% and 38% favorable ratings, something is terribly wrong with our two party system.
 
jimbo said:
Oh, I agree. The next four years or the next two, will be about Republican political leaders. Not necessarily just Trump. I'm not running away for now. Although I'm prepared to go another direction if the road looks better.

I knew this would be a long hard battle. The object is to win the war.

I do have to ask, which Democrat in 2020? Hillary? Socialist Bernie? Injun Liz? The Democrats have the same problem as the Repubs. Not much to choose from. My choices. Webb (D), Pence (R). I'm not positive Trump will seek a second term.
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Anything can happen between now and 2020. When Romney lost in 2012...nobody thought some Reality T.V. star would be the next GOP nominee and president...and look what happened. Right now, who the Dems nominee is in 2020 is anyone's guess. I definitely don't think it will be either of the three you mentioned, due to their ages. In Hillary's case she's a two time loser, and even if she was younger, I don't think she'd run again.
 
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Perotista said:
True, but who knows how independents will view Trump in 2020? Heck, who knows how the GOP will view him? If Obama ran for re-election in 2010,2011, 2014 or 2015, he would have been defeated. As luck would have it, Obama regained popularity in 2012 enough for him to win by 4 points, although he did lose the independent vote 51-47. But the Democrats had the larger base, so Obama could afford to lose independents as long as he kept it close. He succeeded.

I firmly believe if the Democrats had run someone else other than Hillary, they would be sitting in the Oval Office today. Back in 2012 the Democratic base made up 35% of the electorate while the GOP base was at 30%. Today the Democratic base is down to 30% while the GOP base has dropped to 26%. Dissatisfaction with both parties galore. Gridlock, polarization, candidates no one likes outside of their core supporters, all have contributed to the frustration of the average American. I would say when the two parties nominate candidates with only a 34% and 38% favorable ratings, something is terribly wrong with our two party system.
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Any yet independents still have control of congress to the GOP, despite 6 years of controlling the house and two years as a majority in the senate. Why are the independents letting the GOP congress of the hook?
 
Puigb said:
How is he a bitch? He's still relatively young and he may run in the future. And you can't really compare him to Trump yet. I have yet to see Cuban flip flop in his political positions the way Trump has, but he COULD potentially do that in the future.

On the other hand, you must have considered Trump a bitch for 30 years or so considering he's been talking about running for president since the 1980's.
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All we need is another TV pop star sitting in the oval office running the country.

That speak volumes in regard to the voting habits of Americans.
 
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