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Shattered: Hillary Clinton campaign biographer: Here’s where she went wrong

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“But she really never had the feel for what was going on in this country...”


...after Sanders crushed Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, Clinton... said: “I don’t understand what’s happening in the country.”

On election night, as Trump was racking up wins in states like Wisconsin, Bill Clinton said, “It’s like Brexit. … I guess it’s real.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-campaign-biographer-heres-went-wrong-205403959.html
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She was out of touch, a dinosaur in a sprint, she was lazy, arrogant, is corrupt, was unapologetic for her corrupt behavior, and despite the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) doing absolutely everything in their power to stop Trump... she failed. How sweet.

I guess it was "a vast right-wing conspiracy". It couldn't have been her, or her message. What was her message?

And we thank Obama, Clinton and the corrupt DNC for their efforts.

Oh! And not a word about the Russians... ROTFLOL...
 
According to the book, after Sanders crushed Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, Clinton turned to Minyon Moore, one of her longtime aides, and said: “I don’t understand what’s happening in the country.”
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No kidding......because she sucks at this.

Is this The Book that is going to best explain what happened? IDK, but it is nice to see folks starting to comprehend just how bad Clinton Corp is at this.


Shattered is what happens when political parties become too disconnected from their voters. Even if you think the election was stolen, any Democrat who reads this book will come away believing he or she belongs to a party stuck in a profound identity crisis. Trump or no Trump, the Democrats need therapy – and soon.
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Taibbi on the New Book That Brutalizes the Clinton Campaign - Rolling Stone
 
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I'm going to offer you guys some advice that many Trump supporters have been offering others over the past few months: "He won, get over it."
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I'm going to offer you guys some advice that many Trump supporters have been offering others over the past few months: "He won, get over it."
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Just trying to assist Demokrats with the autopsy.
 
zimmer said:
Just trying to assist Demokrats with the autopsy.
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Sure, that's what you were doing. :roll: I thought surely after she lost you could finally get over it and stop your daily incessant whining about her. Perhaps you could obsess about someone politically relevant in 2017.
 
The obsession continues.
 
zimmer said:
She was out of touch, a dinosaur in a sprint, she was lazy, arrogant, is corrupt, was unapologetic for her corrupt behavior, and despite the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) doing absolutely everything in their power to stop Trump... she failed. How sweet.

I guess it was "a vast right-wing conspiracy". It couldn't have been her, or her message. What was her message?

And we thank Obama, Clinton and the corrupt DNC for their efforts.

Oh! And not a word about the Russians... ROTFLOL...
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It's a nice narrative but the facts don't tell the same story. Trump got the same votes that McCain and Romney got the difference is the blacks and Latinos didn't vote for Hillary the same way the voted for Obama. They chose to stay home and I suspect it had a lot to do with Hillary's skin color since Hillary was promising to pretty much be a 3rd term of Obama and as a group they loved Obama and his policies.
 
But it is also true, as “Shattered” makes indisputably clear, that she was unquestionably the worst major presidential candidate in our lifetime.

Others (like Bob Dole) did far worse. But they likely never really had a shot. Hillary had no business losing an election to Donald Trump — but Allen and Parnes pile up headshaking detail after headshaking detail from the very beginning of her campaign to its end showing that she and her people were incapable of making a good call.

About anything.
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Hillary ran the worst presidential campaign ever | New York Post

Yep, and she is the one the party elite tried to run without allowing the voters other options.....she was according to them "the one".
 
I just have to do it:

(Full disclosure: I have not yet read the book. Allen and Parnes are both good, reliable reporters, and I have no doubt that all of the anonymous backstabbing, ass-covering, and score-settling in the book is accurately quoted and a further clear example that the members of the consultant class have the fundamental loyalty of a brood of vipers.)
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Will The New York Times Ever Fix Its Clinton Problem?
 
Crovax said:
It's a nice narrative but the facts don't tell the same story. Trump got the same votes that McCain and Romney got the difference is the blacks and Latinos didn't vote for Hillary the same way the voted for Obama. They chose to stay home and I suspect it had a lot to do with Hillary's skin color since Hillary was promising to pretty much be a 3rd term of Obama and as a group they loved Obama and his policies.
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But the difference is that Hillary is a blatant and open racist who proudly supported Barry Goldwater. Obama did not. Furthermore many Blacks felt that Obama was a chump and a sellout and with Hillary promising more of the same...
 
reinoe said:
But the difference is that Hillary is a blatant and open racist who proudly supported Barry Goldwater. Obama did not. Furthermore many Blacks felt that Obama was a chump and a sellout and with Hillary promising more of the same...
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Supporting Goldwater makes you a racist? and I belive Hillary was in high school at the time, do you think the average voter knows this about her or that it really had any impact on their vote?

And Obama was at a 90%+ approval rating from blacks pretty much the whole time he was in office, so I don't think he was viewed as a chump or a sellout by the black community.
 
zimmer said:
She was out of touch, a dinosaur in a sprint, she was lazy, arrogant, is corrupt, was unapologetic for her corrupt behavior, and despite the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) doing absolutely everything in their power to stop Trump... she failed. How sweet.

I guess it was "a vast right-wing conspiracy". It couldn't have been her, or her message. What was her message?

And we thank Obama, Clinton and the corrupt DNC for their efforts.

Oh! And not a word about the Russians... ROTFLOL...
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She ran one of the worst campaigns in the history of Presidential campaigns. Walter Mondale and George McGovern had better messaging than she did. She is a bad woman and her campaign was a reflection on that, and it's why someone as weak as Trump pulled off a win.

Why does it upset you so much that she ran a bad campaign? Most people in this country probably don't care anymore about her, so I'm not sure why you miss her so much.
 
zimmer said:
She was out of touch, a dinosaur in a sprint, she was lazy, arrogant, is corrupt, was unapologetic for her corrupt behavior, and despite the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) doing absolutely everything in their power to stop Trump... she failed. How sweet.

I guess it was "a vast right-wing conspiracy". It couldn't have been her, or her message. What was her message?

And we thank Obama, Clinton and the corrupt DNC for their efforts.

Oh! And not a word about the Russians... ROTFLOL...
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She was a terrible candidate running against another terrible candidate. But Trump knows how the drama it up and get people to listen, it's why he's the Reality-TV President. Hillary had no clue and no way to connect with people, she's just mean and cold and distant.

I also don't know why anyone wants to read a book about her losing, we all saw it.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I'm going to offer you guys some advice that many Trump supporters have been offering others over the past few months: "He won, get over it."
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Perhaps that might happen as soon as the left embraces "you lost, get over it".
 
Ikari said:
She was a terrible candidate running against another terrible candidate. But Trump knows how the drama it up and get people to listen, it's why he's the Reality-TV President. Hillary had no clue and no way to connect with people, she's just mean and cold and distant.

I also don't know why anyone wants to read a book about her losing, we all saw it.
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I can see where it would be painful for those who lost to see more reasons why.

On the other hand, all I would be interested in is accounts of what it was like in her hotel suite the night the kingdom she was certain was hers was yanked from her grasp.
 
..after Sanders crushed Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, Clinton... said: “I don’t understand what’s happening in the country.”
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Sanity is happening........something a sociopath like Clinton will NEVER understand.

And I certainly don't want to read a book about her.......she should just quietly vanish into the obscurity she so richly deserves.

:2usflag:
 
ocean515 said:
I can see where it would be painful for those who lost to see more reasons why.

On the other hand, all I would be interested in is accounts of what it was like in her hotel suite the night the kingdom she was certain was hers was yanked from her grasp.
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That's not interesting at all. That's just "The Bachelor" level, lowest common denominator drama.
 
I think the people saw through the lie called Hillary. Everyone but the blind saw all that money from speeches as campaign bribes by the rich and powerful which they were. The treatment of Bernie Sanders was the final eye opener. The deceit and corruption had to end.
 
zimmer said:
She was out of touch, a dinosaur in a sprint, she was lazy, arrogant, is corrupt, was unapologetic for her corrupt behavior, and despite the Propagandists Inspired by Goebbels (PIGs) doing absolutely everything in their power to stop Trump... she failed. How sweet.

I guess it was "a vast right-wing conspiracy". It couldn't have been her, or her message. What was her message?

And we thank Obama, Clinton and the corrupt DNC for their efforts.

Oh! And not a word about the Russians... ROTFLOL...
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Is there a Russian version of the book so we can really understand what happened?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
I'm going to offer you guys some advice that many Trump supporters have been offering others over the past few months: "He won, get over it."
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Typical. Leftists have been ****ting themselves over the election results since 9 November weeping, wailing, gnashing their teeth, blanket attacks toward anyone that voted for Trump or anyone that doesnt want to see him and by proxy the country fail. Blanket and to date unfounded accusations about 'the Russians' and claims that anyone that still wants to see Trump become successful is an agent of Vladimir Putin...current leveled charges by Clintonites that the election was lost due to sexism...and now there is a book from insiders that says...no...you lost because of you, not because of them...and you want everyone to just be quiet-win gracefully. Say nothing...just take the incessant chirping an shrieking from leftists. Because...leftists are going to lose gracefully...right?
 
Shattered isn't exactly the sort of autopsy that would match well with Theodore White.
 
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