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Berkeley reverses decision to cancel speech by conservative pundit Ann Coulter

TheGoverness said:
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So it looks like crazy ol' Ann might get her chance to speak after all, albeit on a different date and under different conditions. But I'm happy the university reversed their decision, though I understand why they cancelled it in the first place.

Look, I think most of us can agree that Ann Coulter is a moron. She spews a crapton of stupid psychobabble on a daily basis in order to draw more attention to herself, and sell more copies of her ****ty books. But with that being said, I think that she should allowed to speak at the university (if she does end up going through with it). If one wishes to protest these events, they should be able to do so, but it should be done peacefully. Committing acts of violence in order to prevent someone from exercising their right to free speech is where it crosses the line.

I've made similar remarks before, but I think we as a society need to hold up the principle of free speech, particularly the concept of articulating one's opinions without fear of societal sanction. We should be open to the concept of free expression, including towards ideas and views that aren't popular with the majority. Concerning the many incidents of violent protests that have erupted around these conservative speaking events at colleges in very recent history, that kind of behavior shouldn't be acceptable. And resorting to violence should not be in any way legitimized, which is why I'm glad the university reversed their decision. Because that just looks like the university is bending the knee to these ANTIFA assholes, who come to these events with the intent of causing trouble. Giving them what they want will just encourage that kind of reprehensible behavior even further. Silencing the views of another because they are offensive, shoudn't be encouraged. Also, trying to inconvenience others by blocking their ability to access these events should also unacceptable. If someone wants to go and hear a different perspective, then they should be able to do so. And a learning environment such as a university should be a place where all ideas have a have a platform, and promotes openness, but I guess that's not the case at Berkley.

If this event does go as planned on the re-scheduled date, and the group that invited Ann Coulter doesn't reject the new conditions, I hope it doesn't get shut down like the last one did, and security should be ramped up in order to prevent any violence from breaking out, but let's just say my hopes aren't very high.
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The way it ought to be. And Ann isn't at all crazy. Nancy Pelosi, Liz Warren and Maxine Waters are the crazy ones.
 
matchlight said:
No doubt she's stupid, like most people who graduate with honors from top law schools. When compared with the stunning intellects of people on sites like this one who loathe Ms. Coulter, who can help but look like a moron?
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Affirmative action.
 
nota bene said:
Whatever else can be said about Coulter, she's not a moron. As a writer, she turns a deft phrase. I don't buy her books, but I've read many of her columns over the years, and saying she's stupid is...embarrassing.

I also don't think she's crazy. Don't like her opinions? Millions would agree. She's a pot-stirrer to be sure. But she's no moron, and if she's crazy, she's crazy like a fox laughing all the way to the bank.
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She's a race baiter who sells books to the same people who voted for Donald Trump in the primaries. In fact, Trump successfully took the Ann coulter route to the presidency.
 
"Race-baiter's" a new insult. Good work. You could've stuck to the "She looks like a man" schtick.
 
nota bene said:
"Race-baiter's" a new insult. Good work. You could've stuck to the "She looks like a man" schtick.
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She is. Basically the white female conservative version of Al Sharpton, though occasionally Sharpton makes some good points when he isn't race pimping.
 
Mario said:
The way it ought to be. And Ann isn't at all crazy. Nancy Pelosi, Liz Warren and Maxine Waters are the crazy ones.
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I don't know about their sanity, but Speaker Pelosi and Ms. Waters--not to mention other pseudo-liberal geniuses like Patty Murray and Sheila Jackson Lee--are obviously far more intelligent than that moron Coulter. Everybody knows progressives are, like, you know, super smart, while conservatives are just, like, uber dumb.
 
Phys251 said:
Is it in any way possible for conservatives to send speakers to college campuses that are not highly obnoxious trolls?
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Don't go to the event. Problem solved.
 
TheGoverness said:
So it looks like crazy ol' Ann might get her chance to speak after all, albeit on a different date and under different conditions. But I'm happy the university reversed their decision, though I understand why they cancelled it in the first place.

Look, I think most of us can agree that Ann Coulter is a moron. She spews a crapton of stupid psychobabble on a daily basis in order to draw more attention to herself, and sell more copies of her ****ty books.
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I don't think anyone can objectively say that she's a moron. She seems pretty smart and knows exactly what she's doing. Is she intentionally a provocateur? Of course, she has made a lot of money doing it. I don't think she believes everything she says but I think she does most of it but will say it in the way that will get the biggest reaction from the left.


If this event does go as planned on the re-scheduled date, and the group that invited Ann Coulter doesn't reject the new conditions, I hope it doesn't get shut down like the last one did, and security should be ramped up in order to prevent any violence from breaking out, but let's just say my hopes aren't very high.
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I agree with your sentiment that the current growing use of violence by far-leftists is disconcerting. She was planning to go anyways so Berkeley is trying to save what little face they still have but we all know it's a sham. They condone this type of behavior everything they hold back serious police intervention. They should bring back mounted police officers for these borderline terrorists and just gallop over them. Wouldn't take that happening at a few events to restore some semblance of order. Everyone with similar ideologies as them are a threat to the liberties of the nation and should be dealt with harshly.
 
LowDown said:
No, not when liberals define all conservatives as highly obnoxious trolls.
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The problem is not their stance but their ignorance and incitement of hatred. But you knew that already, didn't you?
 
Harshaw said:
They do. The problem is, people like you call ALL of them that, no matter who they are. Milo and Coulter are rabble-rousing trolls.
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Good. You see it. Yet many conservatives for some reason want those rabble-rousing trolls to have the right to speak on college campuses.

Heather Mac Donald isn't. Christina Hoff Sommers isn't. Charles Murray isn't. Ben Shapiro isn't. The vast majority of them aren't.
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Please show me exactly where in my 10,000+ posts on DP I specifically said that any of those names should be disinvited from speaking at college campuses. Show me the post.

You and everyone who liked your blatantly dishonest post are attacking a position I categorically did not take.
 
Mario said:
The way it ought to be. And Ann isn't at all crazy. Nancy Pelosi, Liz Warren and Maxine Waters are the crazy ones.
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I won't deny that those two are crazy, because they are. Or at the very least extremely stupid. But Ann Coulter is crazy as well.

But Ann's smart crazy in a way, because she's actually found a way to profit from being a provocateur.
 
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Phys251 said:
Good. You see it. Yet many conservatives for some reason want those rabble-rousing trolls to have the right to speak on college campuses.
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It's called "diversity of opinion," and it's what nurtures critical thinking skills.
 
Well, Governess, I hope you don't ever make the mistake of calling Ann Coulter a "moron" again. You sure got a tongue lashing from people.:roll:

Anyway, ignoring all the whiny finger wagging at The Governess, I'm glad that they reversed their decision on Coulter's speaking engagement. I don't care for her message much of the time because she's a professional provocateur, like Al Sharpton and Rush Limbaugh and some others. But she has a right to share her views with anyone who wants to hear them. I get why they cancelled but I'm glad it's been rolled back, and she's a big enough grown up to decide if there is any danger to her presence or not.
 
Phys251 said:
The problem is not their stance but their ignorance and incitement of hatred. But you knew that already, didn't you?
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Can you list some examples od her "incitement of hatred"? Quotes and links please.
 
A university should be a marketplace of ideas. I once attended a debate between Nobel Prize-winner William Shockley and a Dr. Goldsby. Shockley, who in addition to believing he could prove that blacks were genetically inferior also came up with the idea for a "genius sperm bank" (which, BTW, produced perfectly average offspring, LOL), was destroyed on stage by logic within ten minutes.

Yes, his argument was heinous. Nobody protested his appearance or was outraged by it; we all saw the debate as a tremendous opportunity. And it was memorable. Here I am all these years later talking about it. Why should anybody be askeered of a contrarian opinion?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Many folks seem to hate her so she must have incited that hatred. ;)
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I'm not a fan, but I've never thought she "incited hatred". It's just more of that whiny triggered snowflake "everyone who disagrees with far left kookism is a racist" garbage.
 
Phys251 said:
Good. You see it. Yet many conservatives for some reason want those rabble-rousing trolls to have the right to speak on college campuses.



Please show me exactly where in my 10,000+ posts on DP I specifically said that any of those names should be disinvited from speaking at college campuses. Show me the post.

You and everyone who liked your blatantly dishonest post are attacking a position I categorically did not take.
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Speaking of dishonesty, I didn't say you "specifically" said any such thing. What you did do is imply that all conservative speakers - or at least the ones run off campuses - are "highly obnoxious trolls."

But if you're admitting that you, er, obnoxiously painted with far too broad of a brush, then we're all cool.
 
you do have to wonder what sort of person would want to listen to that idiot.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I'm not a fan, but I've never thought she "incited hatred". It's just more of that whiny triggered snowflake "everyone who disagrees with far left kookism is a racist" garbage.
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So long as it works it will continue.
 
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