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Fear of Trump Makes Migrants Disappear From Mexican Border

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NOGALES, Mexico—In the 35 years Gilda and Juan Francisco Loureiro have been running a shelter in northern Mexico for undocumented immigrants, they’ve never seen a week like this one.
The shelter, called Albergue San Juan Bosco, is perched on a steep hillside looking over the busy border town of Nogales, Mexico. Its walls are painted bright turquoise and tangerine, and its wide-open double doors look west over low hills and Highway 15. Since they opened it, upward of 1 million people have slept there on their way to the U.S. But on the day I visited, it was almost empty.

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But today, those mattresses are neatly stacked in a closet, untouched. And the shelter is almost empty—no women travelers, and fewer than a dozen men. That’s despite the fact that April, with its mild weather, should be the busiest time of year for migrants. The place is all but dead. Gilda and Paco have never seen anything like it.

They can only think of one explanation: President Donald Trump.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/14/fear-of-trump-makes-migrants-disappear-from-mexican-border.html

I cannot find any pity in my heart for enablers of criminals being sad. Just... can't do it.
 
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The term "criminal" has harsh and wide connotation perhaps beyond what the illegal immigrants are doing, but yeah I agree wholeheartedly here.

To think the U.S. government declared war on its people for their using drugs, to the point of shredding the Constitution. But then the government seemingly turns it's back, allowing foreign nationals to break American immigration laws! It's insanity!

And check this out, from the article:

“Mexicans are very stubborn,” he said, “and there is not a wall that can restrain them.”

What? Are we suppose to rise to champion the cause of foreign nationals breaking our laws? Really? Bah, The Daily Beast got this one wrong.

There's so much I dislike in Trump, but in general terms he's got the illegal immigration issue right. I don't always agree with his tactics, but I support him on this issue!
 
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Maybe they can revise their business as a welcome back center.
 
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It is a little like in Europe. Merkel's invitation brought the Eu to the brink and could well have crashed it. It was the hated mr Orban and his friends that stopped the flow ruthlessly that granted the Eu reprieve.

This does not mean that immigration is bad nor that it isn't good to save refugees. But doing it stupidly is inexcusable. That is one of the reasons Trump was elected.
 
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I don't have a problem with this because it is on the Mexican side.

These people provide a place to sleep and probably water. Nothing wrong with that.

What the people do after they leave there is up to them.
 
And the Kino Border Initiative, a Roman Catholic humanitarian aid group that provides food and clothing to recently deported migrants on the Mexico side, has seen things slow. Joanna Williams, the group’s director of education and advocacy in the U.S., said their Mexican shelter would normally help 500 to 700 people every month. But in March, she added, they only worked with 200—likely because fewer people are being deported to Nogales, because fewer people are crossing the border there in the first place.


But Williams added that though the overall number of migrants crossing the border has dropped, the numbers from some parts of Mexico have risen significantly. Her group asks migrants to share what city and state of Mexico they came from—a valuable data trove—and noticed there’s been an uptick in travelers from the city of Chilpancingo in the state of Guerrero on Mexico’s southwest coast. A conflict between two cartels there has displaced 250,000 people, according to Sky News.

Williams said she expects the number of migrants crossing the border to go back up because Trump hasn’t changed the structural realities that drive migration: He hasn’t made southern Mexico any less poor and violent, and he hasn’t made the cartels any weaker. The changes in the last month are significant, she said, but temporary.


I don't mind the Catholics doing what they do. It's humanitarian. I'm not a monster. Lots of these people didn't ask to be born where they were born.

I'm not sure the article was intended to drum up pity for the people who spend their own time and money being humanitarians so I'm not sure who these "enablers of criminals" are that you aren't finding any pity in your heart for.
 
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Yeah now they're flying in an overstaying their visas
 
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*shrug*

Fewer unauthorized immigrants have been coming to the US for years, particularly across the southern border. Many are now flying into the US, and overstaying visas.
2013 article, fewest crossings in 40 years:
CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years - CNNPolitics.com

2015 article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2de05b6b2a4_story.html?utm_term=.cbeffba627c8


This is also not the first time there's been a political-based slowdown at the border. There was a similar reaction at the start of Bush's term, it didn't last long.
 
And the Kino Border Initiative, a Roman Catholic humanitarian aid group that provides food and clothing to recently deported migrants on the Mexico side, has seen things slow. Joanna Williams, the group’s director of education and advocacy in the U.S., said their Mexican shelter would normally help 500 to 700 people every month. But in March, she added, they only worked with 200—likely because fewer people are being deported to Nogales, because fewer people are crossing the border there in the first place.


But Williams added that though the overall number of migrants crossing the border has dropped, the numbers from some parts of Mexico have risen significantly. Her group asks migrants to share what city and state of Mexico they came from—a valuable data trove—and noticed there’s been an uptick in travelers from the city of Chilpancingo in the state of Guerrero on Mexico’s southwest coast. A conflict between two cartels there has displaced 250,000 people, according to Sky News.

Williams said she expects the number of migrants crossing the border to go back up because Trump hasn’t changed the structural realities that drive migration: He hasn’t made southern Mexico any less poor and violent, and he hasn’t made the cartels any weaker. The changes in the last month are significant, she said, but temporary.


I don't mind the Catholics doing what they do. It's humanitarian. I'm not a monster. Lots of these people didn't ask to be born where they were born.

I'm not sure the article was intended to drum up pity for the people who spend their own time and money being humanitarians so I'm not sure who these "enablers of criminals" are that you aren't finding any pity in your heart for.

Now what makes Joanna Williams think it should be up to Trump to make "southern Mexico any less poor and violent" or to make "the cartels any weaker"? Shouldn't that be the responsibility of the Mexican government?
 
Now what makes Joanna Williams think it should be up to Trump to make "southern Mexico any less poor and violent" or to make "the cartels any weaker"? Shouldn't that be the responsibility of the Mexican government?
The populace of the United States are buying the drugs that fuel the cartels, as well as making the guns the cartels buy.

The US definitely bears some responsibility here -- as well as benefits from working to reduce demand for drugs (the only thing that can really fix the issue btw).
 
The populace of the United States are buying the drugs that fuel the cartels, as well as making the guns the cartels buy.

The US definitely bears some responsibility here -- as well as benefits from working to reduce demand for drugs (the only thing that can really fix the issue btw).

The wall will put a BIG barrier in front of the drug trade. That's about the most we can do. The rest has to be done by the Mexicans.

(Unless the Mexicans want us to send the Delta Force in there along with some Apaches and, maybe, the 4th Infantry Division.)

But that STILL doesn't deal with the other thing Ms. Williams thinks we should deal with...Southern Mexico being poor and violent.
 
And the Kino Border Initiative, a Roman Catholic humanitarian aid group that provides food and clothing to recently deported migrants on the Mexico side, has seen things slow. Joanna Williams, the group’s director of education and advocacy in the U.S., said their Mexican shelter would normally help 500 to 700 people every month. But in March, she added, they only worked with 200—likely because fewer people are being deported to Nogales, because fewer people are crossing the border there in the first place.


But Williams added that though the overall number of migrants crossing the border has dropped, the numbers from some parts of Mexico have risen significantly. Her group asks migrants to share what city and state of Mexico they came from—a valuable data trove—and noticed there’s been an uptick in travelers from the city of Chilpancingo in the state of Guerrero on Mexico’s southwest coast. A conflict between two cartels there has displaced 250,000 people, according to Sky News.

Williams said she expects the number of migrants crossing the border to go back up because Trump hasn’t changed the structural realities that drive migration: He hasn’t made southern Mexico any less poor and violent, and he hasn’t made the cartels any weaker. The changes in the last month are significant, she said, but temporary.


I don't mind the Catholics doing what they do. It's humanitarian. I'm not a monster. Lots of these people didn't ask to be born where they were born.

I'm not sure the article was intended to drum up pity for the people who spend their own time and money being humanitarians so I'm not sure who these "enablers of criminals" are that you aren't finding any pity in your heart for.
Of course not, you're too busy feeling.

These people help folks cross into the USA Illegally. While I have nothing but compassion for those trying to better their lives, breaking the law to do so is where I stop having compassion. People that help people break the law are merely enablers of crime.
 
Of course not, you're too busy feeling.

These people help folks cross into the USA Illegally. While I have nothing but compassion for those trying to better their lives, breaking the law to do so is where I stop having compassion. People that help people break the law are merely enablers of crime.

I'm too busy feeling what?
 
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