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"NATO isnt obsolete any more" Can we start a pool on what day Trump will advocate for open borders?
 
katzgar said:
"NATO isnt obsolete any more" Can we start a pool on what day Trump will advocate for open borders?
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Did he ever say that the borders should be closed to those that add value to the country and came legally?
 
katzgar said:
"NATO isnt obsolete any more" Can we start a pool on what day Trump will advocate for open borders?
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He told them to pay money despite money being the least important thing but the "one for all, all for one" pact the most important. They may not have done anything, but he said some words, so that's enough for him to claim victory.....on the least important point of NATO.....
 
sangha said:
He called for a Muslim ban and then tried to implement one two times with an EO. Those EOs also closed the border to refugees
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What he said is not the same as we find in the EOs. In the latter he restricts entry from an number of countries, where jihad war and conflict are rife. True, the populations there are mostly Muslim, but no more so than in many other countries. Most OECD countries restrict entry from those areas in one form or another. Usually the restriction is just more complicated and so less visible to those that do not look carefully. I really do not think that the squawking is at all honest.
 
sangha said:
He called for a Muslim ban and then tried to implement one two times with an EO. Those EOs also closed the border to refugees
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How do Muslims add value to the country?
 
_Sal said:
:shock:

how do you?
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After having had time to read at least posts 9 and 10, did you post the above with the expectation, all but knowing that the folks trying to lower the boom would simply not assess you the same blame as [you and] they try to exact? A reverse bigoted question is allowed... the answer being that you get your question without the outrage... at least to a liberal's satisfaction? Those days are simply done over, glad to say.

Over done over.

Went the way of the "unbiased" mainstream media. DOA.

And her question is valid even if you want to hide your eyes and be super politically correct. You know, so that you never genuinely arrive at any truthful answers. How could you, its like expecting the bomb to be right on how to handle radical Islamic terrorism when he could not ever bring himself to even say it.

When one studies history, one can evaluate groups, generally. Such as the many English contributions, certainly the French and Germanic as well as many others. We have Scottish value added in some cases, perhaps taken away in other cases. The Irish, Italian, Masons, Anti Masons, Catholic, Jew, Black, Indian, Chinese, women, Polish, Hungarian, Russian... well, you get my drift. While the lines are not nearly precise [and getting more blurred all the time with "progress"], there are general measures, value calculations that we, the cognizant, can prudently make... or decide to make.

I think this most certainly can be validly asked by a country allowing a certain amount of entrants each year. Many that, if one of those chosen, I would suspect feel as I do, as one born in the US, that I won the world lottery as to places, during my era, to be born. Born of just about any color, race, religion or creed.

But...

It should not just be automatic. We are a thinking people, we should be smart. Why not when the option is, of those desiring admittance, which to choose? Who should we allow in...how many... and for what reasons? Since America is still the land of opportunity. Based on how many want in vs how many want out, and we have millions we allow in legally...and we have millions, perhaps tens of millions, who have made their ways in otherwise. And while there is the myth that all cultures are equal...they...

aren't.
 
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katzgar said:
"NATO isnt obsolete any more" Can we start a pool on what day Trump will advocate for open borders?
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I read a few righties on my FB feed argue that Trump is learning on the job. :doh
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
A reverse bigoted question is allowed... the answer being that you get your question without the outrage... at least to a liberal's satisfaction? Those days are simply done over, glad to say.

Over done over.

Went the way of the "unbiased" mainstream media. DOA.

And her question is valid even if you want to hide your eyes and be super politically correct. You know, so that you never genuinely arrive at any truthful answers.
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Wow, just wow.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
After having had time to read at least posts 9 and 10, did you post the above with the expectation, all but knowing that the folks trying to lower the boom would simply not assess you the same blame as [you and] they try to exact? A reverse bigoted question is allowed... the answer being that you get your question without the outrage... at least to a liberal's satisfaction? Those days are simply done over, glad to say.

Over done over.

Went the way of the "unbiased" mainstream media. DOA.

And her question is valid even if you want to hide your eyes and be super politically correct. You know, so that you never genuinely arrive at any truthful answers. How could you, its like expecting the bomb to be right on how to handle radical Islamic terrorism when he could not ever bring himself to even say it.

When one studies history, one can evaluate groups, generally. Such as the many English contributions, certainly the French and Germanic as well as many others. We have Scottish value added in some cases, perhaps taken away in other cases. The Irish, Italian, Masons, Anti Masons, Catholic, Jew, Black, Indian, Chinese, women, Polish, Hungarian, Russian... well, you get my drift. While the lines are not nearly precise [and getting more blurred all the time with "progress"], there are general measures, value calculations that we, the cognizant, can prudently make... or decide to make.

I think this most certainly can be validly asked by a country allowing a certain amount of entrants each year. Many that, if one of those chosen, I would suspect feel as I do, as one born in the US, that I won the world lottery as to places, during my era, to be born. Born of just about any color, race, religion or creed.

But...

It should not just be automatic. We are a thinking people, we should be smart. Why not when the option is, of those desiring admittance, which to choose? Who should we allow in...how many... and for what reasons? Since America is still the land of opportunity. Based on how many want in vs how many want out, and we have millions we allow in legally...and we have millions, perhaps tens of millions, who have made their ways in otherwise. And while there is the myth that all cultures are equal...they...

aren't.
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what the?



are you drunk? I cannot make heads nor tails of what you are attempting to impart
 
katzgar said:
"NATO isnt obsolete any more" Can we start a pool on what day Trump will advocate for open borders?
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Whatever the number, I'll take the over.

Trump will not advocate for open borders.
 
_Sal said:
what the?



are you drunk? I cannot make heads nor tails of what you are attempting to impart
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Nice.

No. I am not nor was I inebriated, madam. And, while I will not punitively reciprocate on that specific question [nor other capacities], I will assume a certain level and while asserting these assumptions try to break it down to simple. As to however complex as you want to make it I cannot control.


1. One cannot feign ignorance after being given plenty of time to read posts 9 and 10 said.
2. You super opened your eyes...leaving us to assume you were not showing approval, more shock that anyone might ask, to the post to which you replied.
3. I assume you understood she was talking about a group, not individuals,
4a. If that can be assumed, and really it must be for reasoned debate, then you did understand that
4b. in your minimalist response, as bare bones as it was and so requiring the reading audience to make their own assumptions, it could be intelligently assumed you were in return also talking about her group. That is if you were intellectually honestly responding in kind.
5. And even though you are in thus manner not attempting an answer but instead reversing it [attacking] by questioning either her group [ as assumed] or her individually.
6. People on your side will see her post as bigoted, but yours will be allowed.
7. We, my side and me in particular, a'int putting up with any of that kinda crap nowadays.
8. An explanation as to why her post is not a question that need remain unasked... nor unanswered.
9. And then follow up as to additional reasoning as to /what/why.
10. Then an explanation of how we could, perhaps should look at the problem.
11. And why we can, and probably should, look at it that way.

So, that was a counter to your post AND to posts 9 and 10. Post #11 as well, but you may not have had enough time to read that as you were replying and may not have even had a chance to see that post.

If still in the dark, it should always be remembered, that I am merely a debater here. Seriously, I don't lay on with the hands. I never suggest that I am a miracle worker. I try to give it an ostensibly good shot, but then its up to fate.
 
jimbo said:
Whatever the number, I'll take the over.

Trump will not advocate for open borders.
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do you have a crystal ball on what position he will abandon and what he will continue to support?
 
Trump played chess and now have the liberals on the run. Trump will be the hero and Russia and China will work with trump to stop Muslims and liberals world wide
 
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