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New Book Reveals Inside Details Of Hostile Clinton Campaign: "We Got An Ass-Chewing"

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Mr Person said:
Well, from what I've heard before, their main failing was assuming victory in a few states Obama flipped and simply not campaigning in them. Trump won enough of those to take the election despite being 3 million votes under in total.

I don't think that has to do with anger. It was just a really really bad campaign plan.



She certainly had reason to be angry, though. Who wouldn't be, if one is losing to...him.
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I agree, she made 0 visits to Wisconsin and 1 i think to Michigan. That if nothing else is indicative of terrible campaign management. She can't be expected to know all the #s out of every state and decide on her own where to visit and when

But yeah as to the OP story, she's nasty indeed. I recall a story of when she visited a military base (photo op) as first lady with young Chelsea, who stopped to chat with a few soldiers. She took Chelsea away saying "We don't talk to the help"
 
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Risky Thicket said:
Bernie supporters knew she didn't get it. They know to this moment that she didn't get it and the DNC didn't it. But yes, in the end due to massive subterfuge and bull****tery Hillary got the Democratic nod.

You know what is telling? The serious talk about Chelsea running for office. Jesus H. Christ! Never happen. No way in hell. It is to me inconceivable that the Clintons and their sycophants/toadies would even consider the possibility of Chelsea or any Clinton running for anything ever again. They still do not get it.
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Why? She's bungled up other opportunities outside politics from what i hear. Between the Bushes and these pieces of ****, we may as well live under a monarchy, just pick which royal family. They're too self serving to give a damn what this country needs

What SHOULD be inconceivable is that the DNC would ever allow another Clinton to run. But like i've been saying, they prefer Trump over Sanders, who would've aimed to raise taxes on the rich including the lobbyists. So if it means throwing superdelegates behind another Clinton to block the next socialist and they "lose" the election, they'll gladly do it

My only hope is that socialist does what Sanders did not, and run as independent from the start
 
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Moot said:
Ahh, yes...I forgot about the Bernie supporters. They are the real sore losers, for sure. They cut off their nose to spite their face...brilliant. Now they have nothing...so whats to get?

Ya, I saw the headline about Chelsea but don't know if she is or will run. But then, politics runs in her family, so why wouldn't she?
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Hillary colluded with the DNC to oust Bernie and the primary was nothing but a rouse. Further, the party still dismisses Bernie despite immense popularity, why would we just forget about that and forgive when the Democratic party hasn't even tried to make amends or take our concerns seriously? If you're looking for blame for Trump being in office look no further than Hillary and the DNC. Many of us Berners still ended up voting for that corrupt bitch because of the horrors of Trump. Do not try to put this **** on us.
 
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Moot said:
Ahh, yes...I forgot about the Bernie supporters. They are the real sore losers, for sure. They cut off their nose to spite their face...brilliant. Now they have nothing...so whats to get?

Ya, I saw the headline about Chelsea but don't know if she is or will run. But then, politics runs in her family, so why wouldn't she?
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Seeing a connecting thread in your posts.... If someone criticizes Clinton they are a sore loser or sore winner what ever case is appropriate.
Hillary was a clueless candidate who has blamed everyone for her lost but the person who actually lost the election... Herself. Her supporters seem to
be doing the same thing. Blame everyone but Hillary!

The DNC screwed Bernie big time! And most people realize that.
 
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chromium said:
Why? She's bungled up other opportunities outside politics from what i hear. Between the Bushes and these pieces of ****, we may as well live under a monarchy, just pick which royal family. They're too self serving to give a damn what this country needs

What SHOULD be inconceivable is that the DNC would ever allow another Clinton to run. But like i've been saying, they prefer Trump over Sanders, who would've aimed to raise taxes on the rich including the lobbyists. So if it means throwing superdelegates behind another Clinton to block the next socialist and they "lose" the election, they'll gladly do it

My only hope is that socialist does what Sanders did not, and run as independent from the start
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we need a good independent to run... the country seems ready for it.
 
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Moot said:
Gawd, another whiney sore winner thread about Clinton.

I do declare right wingers seem more bent about Clinton's loss than the left does. They just can't let her go.
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That's a rather remarkable assertion Moot. The left, along with it's MSM partners, are hell bent on delegitimizing President Trump and his agenda. It's historic in it's hyperbole and outright fabrication and propagandizing is never ending. To me, that suggests an obsession over Hillary's loss that far outstrips any continued comments by those who were glad she lost.

Hillary Clinton remains a name in the media, and she continues to be followed and quoted.

Perhaps the issue for some on the left is fueled by a desire to distance themselves from Hillary, which may explain your comment.
 
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Moot said:
Ahh, yes...I forgot about the Bernie supporters. They are the real sore losers, for sure. They cut off their nose to spite their face...brilliant. Now they have nothing...so whats to get?

Ya, I saw the headline about Chelsea but don't know if she is or will run. But then, politics runs in her family, so why wouldn't she?
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Politics may run in her family but the political talent gene seems to have stayed out of Bill's spooge.
 
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chromium said:
I agree, she made 0 visits to Wisconsin and 1 i think to Michigan. That if nothing else is indicative of terrible campaign management. She can't be expected to know all the #s out of every state and decide on her own where to visit and when

But yeah as to the OP story, she's nasty indeed. I recall a story of when she visited a military base (photo op) as first lady with young Chelsea, who stopped to chat with a few soldiers. She took Chelsea away saying "We don't talk to the help"
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Well, she certainly can't be expected to know where to visit and when - not exactly - but it still seems striking that the key states were simply ignored. It wasn't just her visits or lack thereof. Apparently, the ground apparatus was largely volunteers generally unconnected with the campaign because HQ just didn't bother.

Now, she was also a bad candidate and I really didn't like her. But the bottom line seems to me to be that she ignored those states. As bad a candidate as she was, she did win the popular by almost 3 million votes, which is a lot. I think that points most directly to bad strategy in terms of which states to focus on, far more than her other faults.
 
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Moot said:
Gawd, another whiney sore winner thread about Clinton.

I do declare right wingers seem more bent about Clinton's loss than the left does. They just can't let her go.
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If you think DA60 is pro-Trump, you definitely haven't been paying attention.
 
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apdst said:
If you think DA60 is pro-Trump, you definitely haven't been paying attention.
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People like him are mugwumps...and I mean that in the nicest way. :)
 
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Not surprised people that believe in a Vast Right-Wing-Left-Wing-Republican-Democrat-Russian-Chinese-European-Communist-Nazi-Obama Conspiracy against Hillary Clinton are accusing a known Trump critic of being a Trump supporter for criticizing Hillary Clinton. Just... go away...
 
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Mr Person said:
Well, she certainly can't be expected to know where to visit and when - not exactly - but it still seems striking that the key states were simply ignored. It wasn't just her visits or lack thereof. Apparently, the ground apparatus was largely volunteers generally unconnected with the campaign because HQ just didn't bother.

Now, she was also a bad candidate and I really didn't like her. But the bottom line seems to me to be that she ignored those states. As bad a candidate as she was, she did win the popular by almost 3 million votes, which is a lot. I think that points most directly to bad strategy in terms of which states to focus on, far more than her other faults.
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Yeah, and it also points to the faults in the other party and her opponent, and our electoral system in general, that her own faults didn't stand in the way of those 3 million more votes

Had those shortcomings not been the case, no strategy in the world could've helped her. Which largely explains her loss in '08. She was lucky as hell to even be competitive this time, as was her opponent
 
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bubbabgone said:
Politics may run in her family but the political talent gene seems to have stayed out of Bill's spooge.
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Well, since her father was the president and her mother almost became one suggests that Chelsea would have double the political talent gene.
 
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Moot said:
Well, since her father was the president and her mother almost became one suggests that Chelsea would have double the political talent gene.
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The political talent gene doesn't transfer through marriage either.
 
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