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Donald Trump: The 'Unreliable Flip-Flop Loser' President Who 'Lacks Stamina'

katzgar said:
Bush had a nonproliferation deal with N. Korea that N. Korea promptly broke so Bush started the red line ignoring.
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Yeah, so?

Your trying to defend Trump means you have some tough times ahead of you.
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I'm not defending Trump here, merely pointing out lib hypocrisy. :shrug:
 
katzgar said:
you chose to point out Obamas failure and ignore Bush failure. obviously a right wing ploy
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How is that different from you pointing out Trump's failure, and ignoring O'Bama's? :shrug:
 
countryboy said:
How is that different from you pointing out Trump's failure, and ignoring O'Bama's? :shrug:
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I love partisans, when caught in their hypocrisy they just point to the other side and say "well they're partisans too". lol
 
Ikari said:
I love partisans, when caught in their hypocrisy they just point to the other side and say "well they're partisans too". lol
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Yeah you do.
 
countryboy said:
Yeah you do.
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Oh, I don't. I've gone after Obama as I have Bush, Clinton, and Trump. It's not my arguments that have flopped with the change in political party.

So don't come here throwing your partisan tripe around just because you were trying to excuse your partisan behavior by the partisan behavior of others.
 
countryboy said:
Issued talking point noted. And yet, we already see China reprimanding N. Korea. Did that ever happen under 8 years of O'Bama?
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We didn't have an unpredictable, undisciplined president who was sending an armada to start a war with a nuclear power, either.
 
Ikari said:
Oh, I don't. I've gone after Obama as I have Bush, Clinton, and Trump. It's not my arguments that have flopped with the change in political party.

So don't come here throwing your partisan tripe around just because you were trying to excuse your partisan behavior by the partisan behavior of others.
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Preach it, brother!
 
katzgar said:
so you support the sleazy scum bag?
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Not really. But he has already done the one thing that I wanted him to do which was keep Hillary out of the White House. I knew going in that I opposed many of his policies. I was hoping that he, like Obama, lacked the skills to get much done. The President is simply the Chief Executive, subject to the Congress.
 
joG said:
The way people i.e. media write about Trump's activities my suspicion is that they are defective in their deep bias or actually haven't realized that the President is not so much "unreliable" as "unpredictable". Now, this might seem the same to persons untrained in negotiations. But they are very wrong.
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Actually Trump is becoming more predictable by the day. Just pick any issue that he faulted Obama on and now he is agreeing with him on the same issue. On Assad in Syria, on China, on N. Korea, on NATO and even on Yellen and interest rates. Trump is becoming Obama lite. It makes you wonder what we are getting for our money, Trump is quite high maintenance, he is on track to spend more in a year on himself than Obama spent in 8 years.
 
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Motti said:
Furthermore, I really don't see the point of Trump phoning up the Saudi king to apprise him of the Syrian strikes. Who is he beholden to? Saudis or Americans?
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I can't believe you said that. Trump's only allegiance is to money. I thought that was obvious.
 
Eric7216 said:
Not really. But he has already done the one thing that I wanted him to do which was keep Hillary out of the White House. I knew going in that I opposed many of his policies. I was hoping that he, like Obama, lacked the skills to get much done. The President is simply the Chief Executive, subject to the Congress.
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just more right wing fake reality
 
Mason66 said:
I never thought I would see somebody accuse Trump of a lack of stamina after the schedule he kept during the campaign.
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Sure, he was fine to run around the country holding rallies to stroke his ego. Now that it is time to get down to serious work he seems flat out lazy.
 
katzgar said:
just more right wing fake reality
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Which one?
Did Hillary lose? I thought she did.
Do I oppose most of Trump's policies? I thought I did.
Is Trump a competent politician? I don't think he is.
 
katzgar said:
Your bar is very low
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No, reality is what reality is. Not sure why Democrats did not nominate O'Malley or Sanders or why Republicans did not nominate almost anyone else.
 
I can't believe you said that. Trump's only allegiance is to money. I thought that was obvious.
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True. But his actions have just sent Dow Jones into a tailspin. If this goes on for another 4 weeks, another 2008-style meltdown is inevitable, especially after this incident:

"Mother Of All Bombs" Sends Stocks To 2-Month Lows Amid Safe-Haven Scramble

"Mother Of All Bombs" Sends Stocks To 2-Month Lows Amid Safe-Haven Scramble | Zero Hedge

And one wonders how Nikki Haley will wag the dog at the UN over this incident

Syria Accuses US Of Hitting ISIS Chemical Weapons Depot Killing Hundreds; Russia Sends Drones

Syria Accuses US Of Hitting ISIS Chemical Weapons Depot Killing Hundreds; Russia Sends Drones | Zero Hedge
 
joG said:
The way people i.e. media write about Trump's activities my suspicion is that they are defective in their deep bias or actually haven't realized that the President is not so much "unreliable" as "unpredictable". Now, this might seem the same to persons untrained in negotiations. But they are very wrong.
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Yeah, see this is the kind of opinion that just looks reality in the face and says, "no that's not what's happening"... Have you been a cave sine Trump was elected? Have you noticed he;s stopped Tweeting? Have you noticed his staff room looks like a shuffle board game? Have you noticed that he has done a complete turn around from what he promised in his campaign? Have you noticed that Kellyanne Conway's been shoved in a closet? The MSM was simply reporting on what the president has been saying and doing; you can't make that stuff up! Have you noticed how much of your hard earned tax dollars he's spending on his trips to Florida? Talk about redistribution!

JoG; how can you say such things about the US media with a straight face against all the crap that Trump has been up to?

The moon isn't made of cheese and we really landed on it in 1969.
 
Motti said:
True. But his actions have just sent Dow Jones into a tailspin. If this goes on for another 4 weeks, another 2008-style meltdown is inevitable, especially after this incident:

"Mother Of All Bombs" Sends Stocks To 2-Month Lows Amid Safe-Haven Scramble

"Mother Of All Bombs" Sends Stocks To 2-Month Lows Amid Safe-Haven Scramble | Zero Hedge

And one wonders how Nikki Haley will wag the dog at the UN over this incident

Syria Accuses US Of Hitting ISIS Chemical Weapons Depot Killing Hundreds; Russia Sends Drones

Syria Accuses US Of Hitting ISIS Chemical Weapons Depot Killing Hundreds; Russia Sends Drones | Zero Hedge
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Stop with the drama.

There is no direct correlation between MOAB and the DOW - the market had already been sliding down prior to today.
 
Unfortunately, Trump is learning on the job more than any president since George Washington. The difference being that Mr. Washington was a well-meaning gentlemen who cared about things like honor and decency.



I just hope that Trump's overriding concern is his own self-image. That might just keep him within an acceptable vicinity of the ballpark.
 
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