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Is O'Reilly Out?

poweRob said:
I guess you just missed these episodes:

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I guess you missed how edited the clips were and not a single one was put into context. I'm not sure some of those clips were not the video version of photoshopped. But the O'Reilly Factor has been on Fox News for 20 years--that's an impressive run for anybody--and he has earned billions for Fox News. I doubt he's going anywhere other than a week's vacation for a very long time.
 
Moot said:
Man, I'd hate to see your idea of a "gentleman".

"O'Reilly is against gay marriage because he thinks domestic abuse should only be between a man and a woman."

THIRTEEN MILLION!!!

According to the NYT...that's how much O'Rilley paid off women over the years to keep their mouths shut...and that was before Roger Ailes left FoxNews in disgrace. As the pattern of that kind of behavior emerges it starts to become apparent that sexually harassing women was part of the culture at FoxNews and can no longer be denied or ignored.

One would think that as a frugal conservative...it would've been a lot cheaper to just to hire prostitutes instead of sexually harassing his co-workers....because thirteen million is lot of moola just to get laid.
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I take these things a bit more pragmatically because I am not a blind partisan who hates anybody conservative or rightwing or libertarian in point of view. For that matter I don't hate anybody leftwing and am just as skeptical at some of the obviously emotional or partisan shots taken at them.

If it is accusations involving the left I can pretty well count on the fanatical leftists to deny that there is any proof of wrongdoing. And if it accusations involving somebody on the right, I can pretty well count on the fanatical leftists to repeat again and again and again that the person is obviously guilty as sin.

I prefer to look at these things my way.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I take these things a bit more pragmatically because I am not a blind partisan who hates anybody conservative or rightwing or libertarian in point of view. For that matter I don't hate anybody leftwing and am just as skeptical at some of the obviously emotional or partisan shots taken at them.

If it is accusations involving the left I can pretty well count on the fanatical leftists to deny that there is any proof of wrongdoing. And if it accusations involving somebody on the right, I can pretty well count on the fanatical leftists to repeat again and again and again that the person is obviously guilty as sin.

I prefer to look at these things my way.
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Most of the women that O'Reilly harassed were conservatives....but instead of hearing their pov...you automatically judged them to be liars and gold diggers and whatnot. So it's not that you blame those conservative women for their point of view...it's that you blamed them because they're women...and that's your own way of looking at things. Sad.
 
Moot said:
Most of the women that O'Reilly harassed were conservatives....but instead of hearing their pov...you automatically judged them to be liars and gold diggers and whatnot. So it's not that you blame those conservative women for their point of view...it's that you blamed them because they're women...and that's your own way of looking at things. Sad.
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I don't automatically assume anything. All I know is that they got a whole bunch of money for accusing somebody who may or may not be guilty. But I don't assume anybody is automatically guilty whether they are Bill O'Reilly or Hillary Clinton or President Trump or President Obama.

Those who automatically assume somebody they don't like is guilty are pretty sad though.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I don't automatically assume anything. All I know is that they got a whole bunch of money for accusing somebody who may or may not be guilty. But I don't assume anybody is automatically guilty whether they are Bill O'Reilly or Hillary Clinton or President Trump or President Obama.

Those who automatically assume somebody they don't like is guilty are pretty sad though.
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No..you just automatically blame the left for O'Reillys indiscretions and assume he's innocent and the women are lying because that's what you would do.

It's not that hard to prove.....


AlbqOwl said:
Suppose I had a boss who was quite wealthy and worked for one of the most prosperous news agencies and decided I would see if I could capitalize on that by making salacious accusations against my boss. Or suppose I had a beef against my boss and decided to take him down with such accusations.

I am one of those people who presumes a person is innocent until proven guilty. Show me the proof of any of those allegations against O'Reilly....
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AlbqOwl said:
I have also done a lot of investigations on this, as well as research, and I am of the opinion that most sexual harassment cases now would have been laughed out of court 30 years ago. I also think the women who are hugely profiting from settlements in these cases do very well. I think they also are diminishing opportunity for women as a whole because of the fear of men being accused if they mentor a female colleague. And that's happening out there too.
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Thats not very objective of you, is it?
 
AlbqOwl said:
I guess you missed how edited the clips were and not a single one was put into context. I'm not sure some of those clips were not the video version of photoshopped. But the O'Reilly Factor has been on Fox News for 20 years--that's an impressive run for anybody--and he has earned billions for Fox News. I doubt he's going anywhere other than a week's vacation for a very long time.
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You were specifically saying you never saw him not acting like a gentleman to his guest. He wasn't acting like a gentleman in those clips no matter the context.
 
Mr Person said:
I'm still not "the left", not even if you put a new insult between "the" and "left."




Do you have anything to say on the subject of whether O'Reilly's misdeeds merit t
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I thought I made it clear this is a leftwing political attack and has nothing to do with o'reillys on screen opinions which liberals hate


You hate the man because you hate what he says

As for the les ian at MSNBC I do watch her occasionally and have never called for her to be fired
 
Moot said:
No..you just automatically blame the left for O'Reillys indiscretions and assume he's innocent and the women are lying because that's what you would do.

It's not that hard to prove.....







Thats not very objective of you, is it?
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Seems objective enough to me. As for the personal insult, I'll just wish you a pleasant day.
 
poweRob said:
You were specifically saying you never saw him not acting like a gentleman to his guest. He wasn't acting like a gentleman in those clips no matter the context.
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That would depend. Even a gentleman is allowed to be angry. I did not see any of those clips myself, I have absolutely no way to know when they happened, under what circumstances, or whether he was the interviewer or the interviewee. So I was absolutely honest that I have never seen him lose his cool on his program ever.
 
AlbqOwl said:
That would depend. Even a gentleman is allowed to be angry. I did not see any of those clips myself, I have absolutely no way to know when they happened, under what circumstances, or whether he was the interviewer or the interviewee. So I was absolutely honest that I have never seen him lose his cool on his program ever.
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I don't even like to watch o'reilly because he's a blowhard

But the only sin he is guilty of in lib la la land is not being a progressive wacko and being on Fox News

The fake lib outrage over his offscreen problems is just politics
 
Mac77 said:
I don't even like to watch o'reilly because he's a blowhard

But the only sin he is guilty of in lib la la land is not being a progressive wacko and being on Fox News

The fake lib outrage over his offscreen problems is just politics
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I don't really see him as a blowhard--he does get it right a lot of the time--but I just get tired and frustrated at his interview style that is very displeasing to me. Yes, all the other hosts sometimes have to talk over their guest who is filibustering the topic, but O'Reilly does that to excess in my opinion and I usually go watch something else when it gets too blatant.

But he still enjoys the highest cable ratings of ANY show on television except for a couple of non-political shows and he earns hundreds of millions for Fox News every year more than justifying his $20 million annual salary. His net worth is estimated at about $70 million so he doesn't need to do his program. I think it is something he truly loves to do.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I don't really see him as a blowhard--he does get it right a lot of the time--but I just get tired and frustrated at his interview style that is very displeasing to me. Yes, all the other hosts sometimes have to talk over their guest who is filibustering the topic, but O'Reilly does that to excess in my opinion and I usually go watch something else when it gets too blatant.

But he still enjoys the highest cable ratings of ANY show on television except for a couple of non-political shows and he earns hundreds of millions for Fox News every year more than justifying his $20 million annual salary. His net worth is estimated at about $70 million so he doesn't need to do his program. I think it is something he truly loves to do.
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I agree with O'reilly most of the time

But he's still a blowhard at least in my opinion
 
Mac77 said:
I agree with O'reilly most of the time

But he's still a blowhard at least in my opinion
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Fair enough. Somehow I don't think he would necessarily disagree with you. :)
 
Mr Person said:
I'm still not "the left", not even if you put a new insult between "the" and "left." Do you have anything to say on the subject of whether O'Reilly's misdeeds merit termination?
For extra credit, ask yourself what you would be posting if Rachel Maddow settled five molestation and harassment lawsuits. Then post it. You wouldn't want anyone speculating about what you'd be saying, now would you?
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Mac77 said:
I thought I made it clear this is a leftwing political attack and has nothing to do with o'reillys on screen opinions which liberals hate You hate the man because you hate what he saysn As for the les ian at MSNBC I do watch her occasionally and have never called for her to be fired
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Do I actually have to copy/paste the entire exchange if I intend to reply to you? You seem desperate not to respond to the point, even when it is a point you have raised.

(For anyone willing to suffer through it, see #71)
 
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