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Trumplash: Rapidly Evolving Syria 'Policy' Leaves Pundits And Supporters Puzzled

ecofarm said:
A deal was made for Russia to assure Assad didn't have chemical weapons. Obviously that failed. New situation. He also has better access to advisers and information.

What kind of idiocy is it to expect one's position to not change in a changing environment.
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I agree. It's good to have a President that's flexible and adaptable to changing situations. It's also good to have a President that's also decisive.

I know that it'll come as a shock to some, but that's how all presidents used to be, until recently.
 
MaggieD said:
My thoughts are that he did the exact right thing. Unlike his predecessor, he acted swiftly and decisively. The world needed to see the message he sent. He didn't even BOTHER to draw a line in the sand. Love it.
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Better to keep them guessing. It's a strategic advantage. One that seems to have been lost on some.
 
eohrnberger said:
I agree. It's good to have a President that's flexible and adaptable to changing situations. It's also good to have a President that's also decisive.

I know that it'll come as a shock to some, but that's how all presidents used to be, until recently.
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One man's decisive action is the next man's hasty impulse...
I prefer leaders who are deliberately reflective.
 
Trump supporters were lied to, and deceived. Trump is just another globalist, neo-con, puppet of the establishment. At this point there is really no difference between the left and the right. They are working in tandem to play good cop / bad cop with the common goal to enslave the American people.
 
jdog said:
Trump supporters were lied to, and deceived. Trump is just another globalist, neo-con, puppet of the establishment. At this point there is really no difference between the left and the right. They are working in tandem to play good cop / bad cop with the common goal to enslave the American people.
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You really hate somewhat strong responses to the use of chemical weapons against civilians, don't you?
 
jdog said:
Trump supporters were lied to, and deceived. Trump is just another globalist, neo-con, puppet of the establishment. At this point there is really no difference between the left and the right. They are working in tandem to play good cop / bad cop with the common goal to enslave the American people.
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Clinton would have nominated Gorsuch and signed on to repealing ACA because there's no difference between the left and right . :peace
 
RickJames3000 said:
One man's decisive action is the next man's hasty impulse...
I prefer leaders who are deliberately reflective.
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To each his own, I guess.

As described by another, this was just a little spanking for Assad and his transgression. Yet you have to believe that Iran and North Korea are taking note, as are the Chinese and yes, even Putin. Many nations in the free world are supporting the decision and the action, and, by some measure, are more unified now. Seems that this action has many up sides to it.
 
ecofarm said:
You really hate somewhat strong responses to the use of chemical weapons against civilians, don't you?
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OK where is your proof Assad did it? You have none, you are just accepting the word of a lying government and the lying press. They could tell you anything and you would believe it.
 
eohrnberger said:
To each his own, I guess.

As described by another, this was just a little spanking for Assad and his transgression. Yet you have to believe that Iran and North Korea are taking note, as are the Chinese and yes, even Putin. Many nations in the free world are supporting the decision and the action, and, by some measure, are more unified now. Seems that this action has many up sides to it.
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What did it actually accomplish? Besides lining the pockets of the corporate elite who run the military industrial complex.
Did the US "send a message"?

Was it just a great way to make a very expensive, empty statement?
Or do you think we're soon to be back in the regime change business?
 
jdog said:
OK where is your proof Assad did it? You have none, you are just accepting the word of a lying government and the lying press. They could tell you anything and you would believe it.
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:screwy
 
NIMBY said:
Clinton would have nominated Gorsuch and signed on to repealing ACA because there's no difference between the left and right . :peace
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It really does not matter. Gorsuch will turn out to be another tool of Goldman Sachs and the globalist agenda. Health care's future is already set, you will at some point in the not too distant future be herded into a Medicare type coverage where you will receive poor level health care in exchange for crippling taxes, and the government will decide if you receive treatment or not....

Face it, the future is bleak, and unless you are already wealthy, you are screwed.
 
jdog said:
It really does not matter. Gorsuch will turn out to be another tool of Goldman Sachs and the globalist agenda. Health care's future is already set, you will at some point in the not too distant future be herded into a Medicare type coverage where you will receive poor level health care in exchange for crippling taxes, and the government will decide if you receive treatment or not....

Face it, the future is bleak, and unless you are already wealthy, you are screwed.
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So nothing on Gorsuch when equating the left or right, just for starters ?
 
RickJames3000 said:
What did it actually accomplish? Besides lining the pockets of the corporate elite who run the military industrial complex.
Did the US "send a message"?

Was it just a great way to make a very expensive, empty statement?
Or do you think we're soon to be back in the regime change business?
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No, I don't think we are, or should be, back in the regime change business.

Iran fires off ballistic missiles with a range sufficient to reach Israel. That's a very aggressive militaristic move.
North Korea fires off ballistic missiles with a range sufficient to reach Japan, and at their rate of progress, soon the US West Coast.
Assad gasses his own people, crossing again, the red line that Obama drew, but didn't enforce. Perhaps Assad was wanting to see what Trump is made of? It's been reported that Assad doesn't do anything without Putin's OK. Putin want to see what Trump is made of?

No, I think there's more up sides to this action than there are down sides, none of which are about "corporate elite who run the military industrial complex". :roll:
 
jdog said:
Like I said, you got nothing. Don't bother to respond. You are hopelessly outmatched.
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I do not mean this as an ad hom, just genuine curiosity. Are you a Truther?
 
NIMBY said:
So nothing on Gorsuch when equating the left or right, just for starters ?
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Left and Right are just a game played on idiots who are not smart enough to recognize the game. The agenda is always advanced regardless of who is in office, you just are ignorant as to what the agenda really is.
 
ecofarm said:
:screwy
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Try answering the question. What evidence is there to support the conclusion that Assad is responsible for it?
 
ecofarm said:
I do not mean this as an ad hom, just genuine curiosity. Are you a Truther?
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Do you attempt to put labels on people so you can more easily classify your personal prejudice's?

What I am is a person who makes decisions about what I believe based on evidence, facts, and logic.

You should try it sometime, it requires an above average knowledge of issues, and requires constant research, but it beats the hell out of being a clone in the collective that simply regurgitates whatever your personal choice of lying media tells you.
 
jdog said:
Do you attempt to put labels on people so you can more easily classify your personal prejudice's?

What I am is a person who makes decisions about what I believe based on evidence, facts, and logic.

You should try it sometime, it requires an above average knowledge of issues, and requires constant research, but it beats the hell out of being a clone in the collective that simply regurgitates whatever your personal choice of lying media tells you.
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I'll take that as a 'yes'.
 
Henrin said:
Try answering the question. What evidence is there to support the conclusion that Assad is responsible for it?
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You don't read news?

Syria attack survivors describe chemical bombs falling from sky - CNN.com

The US, UK, UN, various international organizations, experts and the victims claim such.

It was a nerve agent. That's not something the rebels can make in a shack.

It was air delivered. The rebels have no capacity for such.

Literally everything we know points to Assad. Nothing we know makes it possible otherwise.

It happened this week. A complete report of evidence will be available soon enough, despite it being obvious enough now.
 
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