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Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump?

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According to those who worked against the Iran deal the answer is yes.


The Obama Administration Allegedly Spied on Pro-Israel Activists. Did They Do the Same to Trump? ? Tablet Magazine

“At some point, the administration weaponized the NSA’s legitimate monitoring of communications of foreign officials to stay one step ahead of domestic political opponents,” says a pro-Israel political operative who was deeply involved in the day-to-day fight over the Iran Deal. “The NSA’s collections of foreigners became a means of gathering real-time intelligence on Americans engaged in perfectly legitimate political activism—activism, due to the nature of the issue, that naturally involved conversations with foreigners. We began to notice the White House was responding immediately, sometimes within 24 hours, to specific conversations we were having. At first, we thought it was a coincidence being amplified by our own paranoia. After a while, it simply became our working assumption that we were being spied on.”
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

According to those who worked against the Iran deal the answer is yes.


The Obama Administration Allegedly Spied on Pro-Israel Activists. Did They Do the Same to Trump? ? Tablet Magazine

“At some point, the administration weaponized the NSA’s legitimate monitoring of communications of foreign officials to stay one step ahead of domestic political opponents,” says a pro-Israel political operative who was deeply involved in the day-to-day fight over the Iran Deal. “The NSA’s collections of foreigners became a means of gathering real-time intelligence on Americans engaged in perfectly legitimate political activism—activism, due to the nature of the issue, that naturally involved conversations with foreigners. We began to notice the White House was responding immediately, sometimes within 24 hours, to specific conversations we were having. At first, we thought it was a coincidence being amplified by our own paranoia. After a while, it simply became our working assumption that we were being spied on.”

Oh so unnamed sources are ok again? Trying to keep up with the conservative Waffle House here.
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

Oh so unnamed sources are ok again? Trying to keep up with the conservative Waffle House here.

Talk about unnamed sources! That is what has been used against Trump over and over and over!
There is no evidence that Trump colluded with Russian agents. Zero.

What did James Clapper, Obama's DNI say about this:

"Clapper, who served as director for more than six years before he departed in January, also said he knew of no evidence that members of Trump’s campaign had colluded with Russia during the election campaign and that no suggestion that they had was made in a January report on the subject."

“We did not include anything in our report … that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians,” he said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “There was no evidence of that included in our report. We had no evidence of such collusion.”
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

What administration used the IRS to attack conservative groups for years?
What administration spied on a congressman (Dennis Kucinich)?
What administration went after a Fox news reporter (James Rosen)?
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

Oh so unnamed sources are ok again? Trying to keep up with the conservative Waffle House here.

Oh, so unnamed sources aren't OK anymore? :roll:

The problem is that the NAMED sources on the Trump/Russia story all say there is no evidence.
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

What administration used the IRS to attack conservative groups for years?
What administration spied on a congressman (Dennis Kucinich)?
What administration went after a Fox news reporter (James Rosen)?

The NSA data gathering was always questionable, though I supported it at one time. All it took to change my opinion was to give that power to a corrupt Chicago politician.
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

Fake News.
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

Oh so unnamed sources are ok again? Trying to keep up with the conservative Waffle House here.

So to you it sounds like something the Obama Administration never ever would have done?

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Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

The NSA data gathering was always questionable, though I supported it at one time. All it took to change my opinion was to give that power to a corrupt Chicago politician.

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........... NOT WITTINGLY ...........
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

When your question is also your answer.

Another of the earnest and desperate efforts of Trump apologists to change the subject from investigations into their hero's apparent acts of disloyalty.
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

I see a lot of "what ifs" and "I believes"
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

When your question is also your answer.

Another of the earnest and desperate efforts of Trump apologists to change the subject from investigations into their hero's apparent acts of disloyalty.

Having an investigation is not and end in and of itself.
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

Oh, so unnamed sources aren't OK anymore? :roll:

The problem is that the NAMED sources on the Trump/Russia story all say there is no evidence.

Cons and Trump have proclaimed that it is fake news unless it has a source to it. Just asking if unnamed sources are ok now? Why can't you answer my question?
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

So to you it sounds like something the Obama Administration never ever would have done?

And as usual you are wrong bubba, is that your prison name?
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

Cons and Trump have proclaimed that it is fake news unless it has a source to it. Just asking if unnamed sources are ok now? Why can't you answer my question?

Where have I ever made a blanket statement against unnamed sources?

Also, so are you ironically taking the "fake news" stance on this story to show "cons" that hey were wrong to question anonymous sources? Or are you actually being a hypocrite?
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

Where have I ever made a blanket statement against unnamed sources?

Also, so are you ironically taking the "fake news" stance on this story to show "cons" that hey were wrong to question anonymous sources? Or are you actually being a hypocrite?

For the past month conservatives on this board have been saying fake news to ANYTHING against Trump that has unnamed sources. Yes, I am pointing out your hypocrisy in asking us to take for word YOUR source cause it is against OBama. Make up your damned minds, are unnamed sources allowed or not. YOU guys decide and let us know ok? Or is it only unnamed sources against Obama or Dems allowed?
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

According to those who worked against the Iran deal the answer is yes.


The Obama Administration Allegedly Spied on Pro-Israel Activists. Did They Do the Same to Trump? ? Tablet Magazine

“At some point, the administration weaponized the NSA’s legitimate monitoring of communications of foreign officials to stay one step ahead of domestic political opponents,” says a pro-Israel political operative who was deeply involved in the day-to-day fight over the Iran Deal. “The NSA’s collections of foreigners became a means of gathering real-time intelligence on Americans engaged in perfectly legitimate political activism—activism, due to the nature of the issue, that naturally involved conversations with foreigners. We began to notice the White House was responding immediately, sometimes within 24 hours, to specific conversations we were having. At first, we thought it was a coincidence being amplified by our own paranoia. After a while, it simply became our working assumption that we were being spied on.”

I remember when this was happening to liberal groups. It was so prevalent, it made it into the movie Farenheit 9/11. Back then, of course, the conservatives supported it. You were warned that the Patriot Act was a bad idea and that we shouldn't support the expansion of domestic spying programs. Now you see why.
 
Re: Did the Obama Admin's Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump

For the past month conservatives on this board have been saying fake news to ANYTHING against Trump that has unnamed sources. Yes, I am pointing out your hypocrisy in asking us to take for word YOUR source cause it is against Obama. Make up your damned minds, are unnamed sources allowed or not. YOU guys decide and let us know ok? Or is it only unnamed sources against Obama or Dems allowed?

Yes, you have now made the same statement twice. I am asking you if you ACTUALLY put no stock in anonymous sources, or if you are just acting like you don't for the sake of this story.

And I have asked you where I have made a blanket statement against the veracity of anonymous sources and all you can come up with is "b...b...but cons!"
 
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