This is not a Debatable issue.

Moot · Apr 12, 2017

jamesrage said:
I never voted for Turmp/ I left that part of my ballot blank. Clinton is a lying sack of **** and so is Trump.I refuse to vote for a loony leftists like Stein and refuse to vote for an illegal alien testicle licker like Johnson.

The don't have anything.Because if they did then they would have stopped the election.Evidence would have been leaked or released.

I am not defending him.I am just pointing out the idiocy of hacks who want to jump on the anti-Trump band wagon who are buying into whatever idiotic anti-Trump conspiracy theory there is. I spoke out when a handful of republicans jumped on the Obama was born in Kenya and is a closet muslim bandwagon. And I spoke out when lib-tards jumped on the Bush lied war, masterminded 9-11, went awol and is a dictator bandwagon. And who ever is president after Trump I will speak out when ever people jump on the idiotic anti-president conspiracy theory there is of that time.

No...they wouldn't have stopped the election just because they were investigating a possible Russian influence. Thats just absurd. But if the investigations prove that Trump co-ordinated with the Russians to influence the election then that could be a yuuuuuge problem. But until then, he's the president elect.

There's only one conspiracy theory that I know of...and it's the one the FBI and congress are currently investigating.

It's hard to take you seriously when you still use such juvenile name calling as "looney leftists" and "illegal alien testicle licker" and "lib-tards." Hardly the mark of a rational thinking adult...but it does answer the question on how low you will go.

iguanaman · Apr 12, 2017

Eric7216 said:
It will be interesting. At this point it looks like Obama administration people or their hangers on illegally accessed classified data on communications and leaked this data to the press. And made up stories about collusion between Trump and the Russians. Of course, there is nothing illegal about talking to foreign governments so that seems like quite a leap. I would hope that any prospective administration would strengthen their relationships with foreign governments.

But who illegally accessed this information and who illegally sent it to their cohorts in the media. Real interesting. NYTimes has been hoist by their on petard with their reporting.

LOL Speaking of no evidence, there is no evidence of wrong doing by the Obama administration. The jury is still out on Trump and his people although the smoke is quite thick.

Washington (CNN)After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal, multiple sources in both parties tell CNN

Classified docs contradict Nunes surveillance claims, GOP and Dem sources say - CNNPolitics.com

poweRob · Apr 12, 2017

Cigar said:
:mrgreen: When your Boy is walking out of The White House in his Orange Suit and Handcuffs, it will be interesting to hear the excuses.

His birthday suit is orange. It'll be like he's naked.

eohrnberger · Apr 12, 2017

Cigar said:
:mrgreen: When your Boy is walking out of The White House in his Orange Suit and Handcuffs, it will be interesting to hear the excuses.

Keep dreaming.

Meanwhile . . . .

Rice improperly and inappropriately requested / demanded unmasked data she was not entitled to see, being a mid level manager consumer of intelligence analysis rather than an intelligence analyst herself, vending the nation's intelligence services to political ends.
Without a shadow of doubt, with the full knowledge of the then sitting president.
The Obama Administration’s Zelig
The Benghazi deceptions, the selling of the Iran deal, the Bergdahl trade – one ‘expert’ kept turning up to peddle falsehoods.
Susan Rice is the real version of Woody Allen’s cinematic character Zelig, who in the movie of the same name popped up almost anywhere as an expert on anything.
Wikileaks Bombshell: Guccifer 2.0 Admits “Seth” Rich Was DNC Leaker - No, it wasn't the Russians, but many have been saying that.
Those that claim the DNC was hacked by the Russian, and the Crowdstrike wasn't suspiciously biased, or why they were called by the DNC.
Cyber Firm Behind “Russian Hacking” Claims Has Ties To Soros-Supported Think Tank
And no, the Russians didn't have much of an impact:
Little Evidence Backs Up Claim That Russian Interference Changed Election
All this adds up to the Obama administration being the most corrupt, but ethically and morally, in the history of the nation
(I suspect its connected to the leftist ethos and rationalization 'by any means necessary' - [to get what I / we want / deem as 'right for everyone else] - moral relativism at it's worst and logical conclusion - all the more reason to avoid it).
Is Obama going to be charged with treason? Hell, I don't know. But . . .
I have no idea if there's anything real behind all this. I suspect if it were Obama'd just claim executive privileged and protection and skate. those under him, well, they'd not be so lucky, right? And since when has Obama really worried about those reporting to him?

My conclusion is, sorry, but you guys and the media have just plain old run out of credibility. Been too wrong, too often, for too long, to be taken seriously anymore. You'll have to call somethings right for awhile before I'll start believing you again.

jamesrage · Apr 12, 2017

Moot said:
No...they wouldn't have stopped the election just because they were investigating a possible Russian influence. Thats just absurd. But if the investigations prove that Trump co-ordinated with the Russians to influence the election then that could be a yuuuuuge problem. But until then, he's the president elect.

There's only one conspiracy theory that I know of...and it's the one the FBI and congress are currently investigating.

It's hard to take you seriously when you still use such juvenile name calling as "looney leftists" and "illegal alien testicle licker" and "lib-tards." Hardly the mark of a rational thinking adult...but it does answer the question on how low you will go.

Again if they had actual proof then they would have stopped the election, released or leaked evidence to the public.
You buy into this idiot the Russians did it conspiracy because you are upset Clinton lost and don't want want to accept the fact Clinton sucked ass more than Trump. Jill Stein is a loony leftist and Gary Johnson is an illegal alien testicle licker. The Trump Russian interference is a loony leftist conspiracy theory that only loony leftist lib-tards believe. You are no different than the Truffers and birther nuts who bought into idiotic conspiracies because you are upset your candidate lost and didn't want to accept reality.

Moot · Apr 12, 2017

jamesrage said:
Again if they had actual proof then they would have stopped the election, released or leaked evidence to the public.
You buy into this idiot the Russians did it conspiracy because you are upset Clinton lost and don't want want to accept the fact Clinton sucked ass more than Trump. Jill Stein is a loony leftist and Gary Johnson is an illegal alien testicle licker. The Trump Russian interference is a loony leftist conspiracy theory that only loony leftist lib-tards believe. You are no different than the Truffers and birther nuts who bought into idiotic conspiracies because you are upset your candidate lost and didn't want to accept reality.

Kinda like the email conspiracy, eh? Do you think for one minute that conservatives wouldn't hound Clinton over that fake email conspiracy if she had won? Because I don't.

Now that there is a full on investigation into Trump's ties with Russia and as more evidence comes to light...it's not too late to impeach and force him to resign....or lock him up.

There's just too many lies and cover-ups by Trump and his surrogates to not take the investigations seriously. Frankly, you'd have to be a blind partisan hack not to.

Eric7216 · Apr 12, 2017

iguanaman said:
LOL Speaking of no evidence, there is no evidence of wrong doing by the Obama administration. The jury is still out on Trump and his people although the smoke is quite thick.

We are in agreement. Nothing yet definitively on either Trump or Obama but the smoke is thick.

iguanaman · Apr 13, 2017

jamesrage said:
Again if they had actual proof then they would have stopped the election, released or leaked evidence to the public.
You buy into this idiot the Russians did it conspiracy because you are upset Clinton lost and don't want want to accept the fact Clinton sucked ass more than Trump. Jill Stein is a loony leftist and Gary Johnson is an illegal alien testicle licker. The Trump Russian interference is a loony leftist conspiracy theory that only loony leftist lib-tards believe. You are no different than the Truffers and birther nuts who bought into idiotic conspiracies because you are upset your candidate lost and didn't want to accept reality.

You're the one who sounds butt hurt and can't face reality. Even Trump himself admits Russia hacked the election. You are so far out in left field no one can call you in. Take it easy, you aren't the first person to vote a crook and a traitor into office.

NEW YORK — President-elect Donald Trump acknowledged for the first time here Wednesday that Russia was responsible for hacking the Democratic Party during last year’s election, but he denied that the leaks were intended to boost him and argued that Moscow would cease cyberattacks on the United States once he is sworn in.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjEoZ3z3aDTAhXoK5oKHVwnDiEQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-admits-to-russian-hacking-even-as-he-attacks-us-intelligence-community%2F2017%2F01%2F11%2F40941a34-d817-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html&usg=AFQjCNEzwvh5PMXuxYKiBUXH4sSRw_zfWA&sig2=Qc9klHFxl3SB3_8is5LYEw&bvm=bv.152180690,d.bGs

ludin · Apr 13, 2017

Cigar said:
This is not fake news. This is not a witch hunt. This actually happened.

We are still not conclusively able to connect the dots on the question of whether there was any coordination or collusion between members of Donald Trump’s campaign and the Russians who interfered in our election to benefit him, but those dots do continue to multiply at an alarming rate.

First, and we have to keep saying this because this fact keeps getting obscured in the subterfuge of deflection, misdirection and ideological finger-pointing about what has yet to be proven: It is absolutely clear that the Russians did interfere in our election. This is not a debatable issue. This is not fake news. This is not a witch hunt. This happened.

The investigations, rightly, are seeking to figure out exactly how and to what degree, and those questions obviously depend on knowing more about campaign contacts with Russian meddlers.

The journalistic caution in me keeps having to write that these could all be coincidences, but the journalistic instinct has learned long ago that coincidence is the albino alligator of political reality: It exists, but is exceedingly rare.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/...of-coincidence.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

there is still no evidence congrats on finally admitting it.

jamesrage · Apr 13, 2017

iguanaman said:
You're the one who sounds butt hurt and can't face reality. Even Trump himself admits Russia hacked the election. You are so far out in left field no one can call you in. Take it easy, you aren't the first person to vote a crook and a traitor into office.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjEoZ3z3aDTAhXoK5oKHVwnDiEQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-admits-to-russian-hacking-even-as-he-attacks-us-intelligence-community%2F2017%2F01%2F11%2F40941a34-d817-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html&usg=AFQjCNEzwvh5PMXuxYKiBUXH4sSRw_zfWA&sig2=Qc9klHFxl3SB3_8is5LYEw&bvm=bv.152180690,d.bGs

Trump's opinion changes like the wind. So what he says isn't relevant.

jamesrage · Apr 13, 2017

Moot said:
Kinda like the email conspiracy, eh? Do you think for one minute that conservatives wouldn't hound Clinton over that fake email conspiracy if she had won? Because I don't. .

There was nothing fake about that. Classified info was found in her emails.

Now that there is a full on investigation into Trump's ties with Russia and as more evidence comes to light...it's not too late to impeach and force him to resign....or lock him up.

There's just too many lies and cover-ups by Trump and his surrogates to not take the investigations seriously. Frankly, you'd have to be a blind partisan hack not to

You just like the truffer-tards,birther-tards and other conspiracy loons will continue to believe that nonsense.

iguanaman · Apr 13, 2017

jamesrage said:
Trump's opinion changes like the wind. So what he says isn't relevant.

LOL That is exactly what the world thinks of him, besides being a traitor he's a buffoon and you helped elect him.

jamesrage · Apr 13, 2017

iguanaman said:
LOL That is exactly what the world thinks of him, besides being a traitor he's a buffoon and you helped elect him.

1.Trump has not done nothing treasonous. There is not evidence of that. Someone claiming to have evidence and not showing evidence is not evidence.

2.I did not vote for Trump. I don't vote for RINOs. I blasted Trump-tards for voting someone who supported someone who supports liberal ideas, supported donated to liberal and RINO politicians they claimed to oppose and had the Clinton as guest at his wedding. And out of all the liberal democrats and RINOs he donated money too he donated the most to Clinton and her foundation. I am amazed how people can be so ****en stupid. I expect that **** from liberals, after they supported a flip flopping lying sack of **** named Hillary Clinton. But I didn't expect that from people who claimed to be conservatives.

This is not a Debatable issue.

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