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The Democrats Campaign Managers don't get it! and Why!

chromium said:
Your analogy fails utterly, because the GOP is not offering better premiums and deductibles. They're offering 24 million uninsured (middle finger) with a side of "we hate muslims and mexicans too don't worry, we'll get rid of em"
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This right here is why you're losing. You...absolutely...don't...****ing...get it.
 
Kurmugeon said:
You've got it all wrong!

Let me try again to explain, using the Insurance Company Analogy...

The election of Hillary, is an indiccator of whether a majority of the consumer base buys its insurance from A-The Democrats, or B-GOP, or C-Buys no insurance at all.

In 2016, more people chose B or C, than A.


The "Insurance" and the Claims against the Company Provided Policies, is analogous to the Social and Government program benefits, such as UnEmployment Insurance, Medicare, Medicad, etc.... the social safety net provided by Government.


Now, the Campaign Managers, are trying hard to convince U.S. and themselves, that it is all about poor White people being so bigotted against Blacks or Latinos, that they voted against their own best interests, or they chose to not vote at all (Not buy any form of Insurance).

I'm stating that the Claims Department of the Insurance Company... the people in the Democratic Party, who have control over whether or not any given "Claim" for benefits will be honored or not... have become so Anti-White Discriminitory, that the White Segment of the Voters, the White Consumers of the two Insurance Companies, no longer believe that Company A, the Democratic Party, will EVER Allow a White Person's Claim to be honored.

Why buy Insurance from Company A, if they'll never payout on a claim, because they've made it clear that they believe that White Americans have significant Racial-Birth-Guilt, and therefore they do not "Qualify"!

Now, Company B, may not offer anything much better, so some Voters might just stay home... or Company B, under the Leadership of President Trump, Might just start offering to HONOR the Claims being made by Whites! i.e. Drain the freak'n Swamp! aka Put an end to Identity Politics!

So, as a White Voter, do you keep buying the policy from Company A? Or just not bother to buy any insurance? Or do you take a chance of the new Leadership of Company B doing what they say they're going to do, provide good benefits to those who have a claim?

Clearly, in 2016, White Voters Chose Trump and Company B!

Why? Because Company A, the Democratic Party, as exhibited by this video:



is filled with Racial HATRED for White Americans!

Who Votes for someone who hates you!?

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None of which has anything to do with what I said. How do you know I've got it wrong- you don't even know whether I read it. I was replying to someone else.
Just looking at your post here, you seem to be saying more people voted for Trump than for Clinton. That the crux of your analogy(which I don't believe is yours)?
 
Grand Mal said:
None of which has anything to do with what I said. How do you know I've got it wrong- you don't even know whether I read it. I was replying to someone else.
Just looking at your post here, you seem to be saying more people voted for Trump than for Clinton. That the crux of your analogy(which I don't believe is yours)?
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What? You don't believe my OP analogy is mine????

That makes no sense?

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Kurmugeon said:
What? You don't believe my OP analogy is mine????

That makes no sense?

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In the format I read this group, the 'insurance company analogy' is in a quote box.
And are you saying more people voted for Trump than Clinton?
 
Grand Mal said:
In the format I read this group, the 'insurance company analogy' is in a quote box.
And are you saying more people voted for Trump than Clinton?
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Yes! With the investigations into nationwide Illegal Immigrant Voter FRaud, the investigations have already determined that so much vote fraud took place, that Hillary did not WIN the HONEST popular vote, but lost it by at a minimum 580K votes!

And that is just discounting those proven in the post-election voter fraud investigations to be illegal Immigrants who have voted, or names / people who voted in more than one polling station!

In Nevada, in in just one district, they found more than 180K illegal immigrants voting!

Hillary did NOT win the Popular Vote in 2016!

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Kurmugeon said:
Yes! With the investigations into nationwide Illegal Immigrant Voter FRaud, the investigations have already determined that so much vote fraud took place, that Hillary did not WIN the HONEST popular vote, but lost it by at a minimum 580K votes!

And that is just discounting those proven in the post-election voter fraud investigations to be illegal Immigrants who have voted, or names / people who voted in more than one polling station!

In Nevada, in in just one district, they found more than 180K illegal immigrants voting!

Hillary did NOT win the Popular Vote in 2016!

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Yeah, I can say anything I want, too. Got anything that backs that up? Anything that isn't a fringe blog, I mean.
 
Belch said:
That guy in the video is at least honest. He's straight up saying that democrats are buying votes with welfare programs, but the recipients aren't making good on their part of the deal by voting for democrats.

That's refreshingly honest for a democrat. They usually work their way around that by saying "nobody wants to be on welfare" which is like saying nobody wants to be a democrat. They are the party of people who need free money, and the poorer the people are, the more they need democrats.

All they've got to do is figure out a way to make everybody poor.
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You've got it all wrong!

The Democratic Party is doing a bait and switch betrayal of the Working Class Whites.

They used to offer a fair exchange, political allegence, votes, in exchange for social program benefits for the needy... and for SOME, still do... just NOT Working Whites!

That is the Point of the OP! Again, and Again, and Again, since 2008, when Working Class whites apply, make a claim, against the "Insurance" of the Social Programs, in exhange for their Votes which elected Obama, twice!, they are told, they do NOT Qualify on account of their "White Privilege"!

It is not the Working Whites who have violated the "Social Contract", but rather is it the group of Democrats who control the granting/denial of the program benefits!

By 2016, and its election, enough Working Class Whites had been betrayed by the Obama Led Democratic Party, and people such as Sally Boynton Brown, as shown in the video above, that Working Whites decided to turn away from the Democratic Party!

The Democratic Party violated the Social Contract!

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Belch said:
So the idea is that they're not buying white votes? The video I watched was this guy counting food stamp recipients in one state that turned red, and saying that those food stamp recipients didn't vote. He didn't mention color because that's not really what democrats care about. They care about power, and at the end of the day, votes are counted regardless of color.

It seems like you're saying that if whites got more welfare, then whites would vote for democrats. Well... I don't really care about color and write that stuff off as irrelevant to winning elections. It's about how he was honest about the vote buying. Something that democrats are typically quite shy about admitting to, even though it's as obvious as the nose on karl malden's face.
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We're talking about the social contract with WORKING Whites! They're "WORKING" people... not trans-generational welfare dependents!

They do not need or want Welfare benefits! That's what makes them "Working" Whites, as opposed to the Demographic Group of Trans-Generational Welfare dependents.

They do need and reasonably expect Social Program Benefits in exchange for their political allegence... and until Obama & Crew took over the Democratic Party, they recieved them!

They recieved them in the form of Un-employment Benefits, during hard times. Scholarships to get themselves and their children started on a career path. Acceptance at publically funded Colleges and Universities! Medicade and medicare benefits when their lives and health took a bad turn!

But! Since Obama and the BLM crowd got power... they're being Rejected by the System and those who are the Democratic Party Gate Keepers of the Program Benefits, all justified by those Democratic Party Tyrants by their supposed "White Privilege".

The Democratic Party, under Obama, has violated the Social Contract with Working White Americans!

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Belch said:
Okay, I think I get what you're on about. The democrats don't care about the working whites, and have refused to recognize that contract they have with them. White blue collar workers vote for democrats, and democrats provide a social safety net in return.

They need a victim class and an oppressor class, and whites have been elected to the oppressor class. That's just what marxists do. You're now a member of the bourgeois class because of the color of your skin, and well...

They'll eventually have to jettison other groups as well because that's how they operate. It's a parasitic ideology, and as the host dies, they move on. You died with the white middle class, so the flea has jumped from that dead dog to another one.
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Close enough.

Except that you're missing a very important part of the whole thing, or at least this description did not mention it...

They label U.S. Working Class Whites as members of the oppressor class of privileged bourgeois on account of the accident of our birth giving U.S. a particular color of skin...

Except that the claim is FALSE! Just because a person is born White, does NOT mean they have had privilege! Often, particularly for those who are Working Class Whites, they left their families home at age 18 with nothing but the shirt on their backs, and had to make their own way, earning every damn thing they ever recieved, by hard WORK!

So, when our luck, or the national economy turns sour... we DO NOT have a huge nest egg, or a family wealth Trust-Fund to fall back on... we have, or had, the very social program benefits that were promised... or a life as homeless in the gutter!

That social contract was IMPORTANT TO U.S.!

Particularly in these times!

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Belch said:
Sucks to be you.

You want me to feel sorry for white blue collar worker democrats? Sorry, but no. You got what you deserve.
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Really? And just what did we do to "Deserve" being reduced to life in the gutter?

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Renae said:
That's not at all what the message is.
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They subornly refuse to acknowledge the message, because it casts discredit on Progressive Policies and Dogma.

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